05 Jun 2016 23:54:01
Koeman to be confirmed as Everton manager tomorrow.

1.) 06 Jun 2016
06 Jun 2016 09:51:14
So, who is stirring the pot here, I have just seen a release that RK's agent says he was misquoted and that nothing has been agreed with Everton.

2.) 06 Jun 2016
06 Jun 2016 10:59:18
Deutsche - that's probably to get out of a 'tapping-up' scenario.

3.) 06 Jun 2016
06 Jun 2016 11:00:17
Ron was shown the 5 year plan and verbally agreed his new contract with Les.

4.) 06 Jun 2016
06 Jun 2016 11:15:23
I won't lie i'm absolutely gutted and ANGRY with the Koeman situation. There is always something, when are we going to fix this problem where we are used to profit and gain! what annoys me more is that yet another manager of ours goes and not just to another football club but to a rival, another premier league side, Koeman has all the inside knowledge of the club along with knowing the players we want to sign, this happened with poch and the spuds, everytime we go for a player you find spuds are in for them as well. Well now add the toffees to the mix and this is the biggest problem. I see this affecting who we are able to sign player wise, whoever the manager is. Its time for southampton to look at why the media always portrays us as the little club, well I think that is because of our actions and we allow it!

5.) 06 Jun 2016
06 Jun 2016 11:29:23
I agree, especially with this personal message to me after renewing my season ticket and all this 'wemarchon' guff! Supposedly, Everton are now in a 'league above us' on transfer targets - whether that is true or not we'll see. He's going for the £7m a year salary rather than the improved £2.5m that he verbally agreed with Les Reed before Les did another triumphant video message to the fans. I'm sure we'll have targets already identified and some might fall by the wayside now (RK leaving), but others will surface with our new manager like Pelle did when Koeman joined. I'll be interested to see whether Erwin, Sammy and Dave Watson go - what's the scoop on Uncle Dave, Dorset?

6.) 06 Jun 2016
06 Jun 2016 11:36:14
Saint Ben, I agree with you; but IF the rumours are true and RK has made an agreement with Everton then pride is at stake rather than money. Southampton DO hold all the cards, they can refuse to accept the situation and either force RK to work out his contract OR they can make him sit out the rest of contract on gardening leave while they employ a replacement.

7.) 06 Jun 2016
06 Jun 2016 12:48:19
I would actually love to see us actually grow some balls and refuse him and make him see out his final year. I know people weill say that's stupid but I just feel we need to nip this in the bud! well its not a bud really as this is now the second manager to do this but i'm also talking about players! we need to man up?!

8.) 06 Jun 2016
06 Jun 2016 12:50:03
It will be up to the new man regarding his coaching staff. He has no plans to leave. Erwin and JK will follow RoKo to Everton tho.

9.) 06 Jun 2016
06 Jun 2016 12:50:45
So all of our so called innovations at southampton, all the tech and all the advances we have made, the little black box! another premier league team that will know all of our little secrets. It really annoys me! and i'm sorry I know everyone will say its not the boards fault, well I disagree and also Les Reed, when will you learn!

10.) 06 Jun 2016
06 Jun 2016 14:05:57
Koeman is going, sad but true. He has said previously that if Saints can match his ambition he would stay.

Its quite clear Saints's offer wasn't what Koeman was expecting and when Everton have come in with silly figures he head has been turned. Expect him to sign this week and Everton to then sign the players RK would have been targeting for Saints.

Its a disappointing situation yet again for us but Les Reed is sticking by his guns and not throwing money away and wants to keep the club in a sustainable place. We are an attractive club for many managers with Europe, a great squad, proven youth and unbelievable facilities. I feel that whoever takes charge will be best for the club in the end. This will all be sorted in the next few weeks and the clubs new manager will be given time to assess the squad and look to bring in additions to help strengthen.

11.) 06 Jun 2016
06 Jun 2016 14:09:56
Perhaps Saints targets will want to play in Europe? Hope so, because that's what we will be doing and what we can offer and (hopefully) what the Board are after.

We have seen with ex Saints players the lure of playing in European competition, with national managers suggesting it essential to gain entry to their teams. There may be some who will gamble for tomorrows rewards for todays money but a lot who will not.

12.) 06 Jun 2016
06 Jun 2016 15:21:37
Les needs to stick by his guns and refuse to accept the situation, there is too much at stake. Is there anything like a non disclosure agreement in football like there is in the real world? If RK refuses to honour his contract then he goes on a 1 year gardening leave.

13.) 06 Jun 2016
06 Jun 2016 15:51:38
Totally agree Deutsche, time for us as a club to stand up and be counted, to stop being bullied by the larger clubs, but also the clubs on our level ie: everton or even smaller. We have the reputation because we let it happen! Its time to show everyone we will stand up and be counted, not just let everyone walk all over us!

14.) 06 Jun 2016
06 Jun 2016 16:08:02
But JWP we sign a new manager, great and he is even better than Koeman, amazing but he does not see out his contract? we can't keep going this way, our luck will run out! why do some fans not see the problem, we will undoubtedly lose players from our current squad as well, would you be happy to see forster go, just because he has signed a new contract does not mean he wouldn't go to everton, but If Koeman had made assurances about his own future and the club then players will sign. This will have a much bigger effect on the club and we just can't keep getting lucky!

15.) 06 Jun 2016
06 Jun 2016 16:31:48
Spot on Basingstoke I just feel it will take a few more years of this happening or us or get unlucky and drop in the table for other saints fans to get the hump!

16.) 06 Jun 2016
06 Jun 2016 20:01:33
Is it likely Dave Watson will leave if Koeman does? I very much hope not as he's quality and has a big impact on the reason Forster's here. Not that I think the club will sell Forster.

17.) 06 Jun 2016
06 Jun 2016 21:14:56
I actually don't see it as being bullied by other clubs, that isn't actually the issue. It's more to do with the way the club is run. It's all well and good having a big stadium, amazing youth structure, world class training facilities and a sustainable growth in recent years. But those things don't matter a bit when the board come to you as a player or a manager and tell you there is little funds available to purchase new players and actually start competing on the bigger stage. If the existing players and manager/ staff want to be competing in the champions league and fighting the big guns for the premier league title and are of the quality to do so, they aren't going to hang around. Few players leave for bigger wages at a club with lower ambitions unfortunately. I really don't think RK is interested in his wages, as long as they are good I think he will accept what is offered. I think it's more to do with getting his hands on titles and cups. Let's face it, he isn't a long term manager at Everton if he does go, as soon as Barcelona speak to him he will be off. But he has a far bigger chance of getting the interest of the elite if he is getting titles and cups. Let's face it, managers are totally graded by their competition wins, Jose M, for example. He wouldn't be half the manager he is if he hadn't won anything, the only way to win is to get the backing of the board to buy and pay the wages of big wild class players. Everton can't attract a player of any higher quality than saints unless they have assurances and money. Saints need to review their spending habits or they need to look at a lower calibre of manager. Sad but true.

{Ed025's Note - good and very fair post that james mate..

18.) 06 Jun 2016
06 Jun 2016 21:24:19
Everton honourable? What fee did they pay rangers when an historic club were in financial difficulty for Naismith.
Davis in the same situation yet saints paid 850,000 or so as they appreciated the situation and did the right thing. Still when Everton sold Naismith I'm sure they sent some cash north being the big club they are. 😱.

19.) 06 Jun 2016
06 Jun 2016 22:34:38
Tbf saints0001 I doubt we paid much more for Davies.

20.) 06 Jun 2016
06 Jun 2016 23:02:04
Jamesaint, some fair points, but Ronald has gone for money! Simply as that. He has no more chance of winning trophies at Everton than he does at southampton, saying that we are in Europe next season so that's one more trophies possibility than Everton. The best Everton can hope to finish is the same as us, around 6th and that's after Koeman has been there for a while sorting the team out. So the reality is money talks!