06 Jul 2014 23:06:57
Hi all,
I have just read that were looking At a £8 million bid for Davis Marshall, and if that fails we will ask about Fraser Forster, also tadic is expected to be signed witching the next 72hours with FC twentes coach leaving him out of a friendly because a deal is soon to be completed.
Also the club are digging their heels in the ground with Lovren and finally schniderlin wants the club to spend the money to make him want to stay even more.
All seems calm and looking up at the moment
COYR

{Ed007's Note - What's the general feeling in England regarding Forster, Charlie (and everyone)? I'm a Celtic supporter and personally I think he has came on leaps and bounds since he first came up here and will only get better. You could do a lot worse but you could do better with the money you have to spend.
I also think the fact Dave Watson is now with Southampton now could be a big factor if Southampton are interested and he might be where the initial recommendation came from. A move to England certainly wouldn't do his international chances any harm and although I am biased I think he would push Hart for the No.1 jersey, I don't rate Hart at all, he is only the best out of a bad lot and Forster playing up here certainly goes against him. I'll put it like this, Forster isn't any worse than Hart and how much would he cost to buy from City?}

1.) 07 Jul 2014
Im a huge Forster fan tbh and would be my fav gk signing but I wouldn't put him at harts level, though he's had a poor and then ok season he is still a fantastic keeper and would be no1 at any team.

2.) 07 Jul 2014
I am not sure why you are so critical of Hart Ed? I think he is quite a good keeper. He has a good idea of positioning and spreads himself well to deal with one on ones and has a great ability to come out, collect and take charge of his area. Signs of a very talented goalkeeper.

Forster has one attribute you could argue over Hart, he has very strong reflexes which you could argue makes him surely a better choice. But he does have a tendency to make things look more spectacular than they need to be. Forster seems to make things strangely difficult for himself and then pull off some seemingly spectacular saves because his position wasn't right. A common pundit argument about keepers is "That was an easy save so don't rave about it" whereas because they positioned themselves well and got set the save became easy, Forster does sometimes struggle in this regard having to pull off more difficult saves.

Not saying I don't rate Forster, but he appears to have large holes in his game. Some attributes make him look like one of the top group of keepers, but he still needs a lot of work to be a truly top notch keeper.

{Ed007's Note - I just don't think Hart is as good as the English media make him out to be, to be fair though they do it with a lot of English players. You can't put Hart in the same category as say a Cech or Neuer can you, look at some of his howlers. He isn't in the top bracket of GKs in Europe, he's a good GK but no more than that and Forster isn't far behind him. If Forster was playing in the EPL I think he could really kick-on and push Hart for the England No.1 spot.}

3.) 07 Jul 2014
07 Jul 2014 08:33:51
Ed007 I think Forster would be an excellent choice for Saints at a cost of £8m or less. He would be a commanding presence, which is what we will need if (when) Lovren departs and we integrate a new CB (s). As for Hart, I think he has been poor recently and PL experience for Forster will certainly make him a more viable option for England. But would Roy select him to start?

{Ed007's Note - If Forster got into the EPL it could give Hodgson a selection headache, if Hart was to be benched at City again Forster would take the No.1 and it would be difficult for Hart to get it back. I just don't think he is that far behind Hart in terms of overall ability.}

4.) 07 Jul 2014
Ed007 with interest in van dijk and forster do you really see them selling both? And as much as i'd like it I can't see celtic selling both to southampton

{Ed007's Note - I think a lot will depend on the CL qualifiers, I can see them both being sold if we don't get through but if we make the group stages I think one of them could be for the off if the player really wants a move and there is a big money bid on the table. I wouldn't like to call which one though, both have their own reasons for having one eye on the exit door.
We have already signed Craig Gordon (don't even get me started on that one!) and I think that he is the contingency plan if Forster leaves. Being in Brazil with England will have just whet his appetite BUT if he knows he will be a regular in the squad he might fancy another year up here with CL football and move on next summer, that gives him a year to stake his claim for the No.1 jersey for France in 2016.
I don't think the financial side of things bothers Forster too much, he seems to have his head screwed on out and seems to worry more about his career than his wages whereas I think van Dijk (or his agent) are more money orientated going by what has been said. It's a tough one to call, Clarkey, sorry for rabbiting on there.}

5.) 07 Jul 2014
07 Jul 2014 16:06:38
A good quality CB is desperately needed. If it means we take Marshall rather than Forster and get Van Dijk that would be fine in my opinion. Although, I would prefer both of the Celtic players if available.

6.) 07 Jul 2014
Greatful ed007. I like the look of van dijk as an up and coming cb and koeman is a big fan so hope he does end up here think koeman could teach him alot.

Forster has always been someone I rated him or Alex McCarthy i'd be over the moon with think Forster is further along and could push Boruc out the team as rumours are we are looking for a long term replacement.

All the best for this season

{Ed007's Note - Van Dijk is quality, who ever signs him is getting one of the best young CB's I've seen in Scotland in years. He seems to have everything going for him as a defender plus he chips in with the occasional goal. Good luck for next season, hopefully you finish above Liverpool :)

7.) 07 Jul 2014
Personally I would rather we got Forster than Marshall under the guidance of Watson think he would be England's number 1 hart always seems to have a mistake in him doesn't fill me with confidence at all and seems to be. Very big headed and to cocky, have to agree with ed the press over rate all English players we don't really have any world class players yet, hence why we went out of the World Cup most of the other teams have at least one truly world class player, personally think we are desperate need of a world class striker Sturridge is ok but misses to many chances to be called world class

8.) 08 Jul 2014
Sorry but Forster v's Marshall no contest. Log on and watch Marshall in action, amazing keeper. He has it all.

{Ed007's Note - Marshall is a good GK as well, Celtic just seem to be churning them out in recent years.}

9.) 08 Jul 2014
Ed007

I completely agree that Hart is massively over rated. He was in loan at Birmingham, came back to PL with arguably the best defences that season in front of him - they made him look good. One good season and everyone rates him high.

He had many flaws, but rushing out at the ball too much is one of his biggest.

Look at some of the changers he's dropped - notably the one at st Mary's when Steven Davis managed to roll one in after he was nutmegged.

I genuinely get nervous watching Hart play for England.

I still think we should have done what Klinsmann did with Germany - air we are not going to progress through the competition, completely re build the England squad from scratch, get the youth players some experience for the next competitions.

{Ed007's Note - Hart's a good GK but that's it, I bet you could easily name 10 others you would rather see Southampton sign than him.}