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18 Aug 2017 21:38:34
Sam Gallagher is ready . don't underseaimate the guy, he was more than okay 3 years ago under Poch. Blood him, he will not let us down!
Look at Stevens, truth is. with out VVD getting injured he would not have got a start. Now he is solid as rock and a very good player (which he was anyway but hadn't been given the chance to prove it)
Sam can be our Pelle, sell Shane Long, bench Sam, play him in cup games and "Maketh the Man"
Just anted to say . what a great shame that Jake Flannigan has suffered yet again. he was looking real quality and to have an operation on Wednesday is tearible for him (and Saints) we will look after him because we are a quality club with Ethics, Morals and Determination.
Kruger is showing that he is the right man for me, thank you for the BBC interview, you are doing a fantastic job both individually and as a Board.

Pete Wesley

1.) 18 Aug 2017 22:59:53
I actually agree completely and think the only difference between a player out on loan to championship . marked as the clubs saviour and that same player sat on the bench in the premiership not getting game time and almost not needed is confidence. I reckon if Gallagher started 20 games this year he'd get 8 goals. admittedly not setting the world alight but still.

2.) 21 Aug 2017 09:33:09
Harry Kane only got his start due to injuries. I'm not saying Sam is that level but he needs his chance. Hopefully he will start mid week.



02 Jul 2017 18:13:58
There is news that Chelsea are prepared to let Ruben Loftus-Cheek go . this would be a perfect player for Southampton. He has a good football brain and if he came to our set up, I feel he would really set us alight.

Chelsea have a few rough diamonds that we should look at, it worked with Romue and Bertrand. What do you think?

Pete Wesley

{Ed002's Note - It will be a loan and Southampton has not shown any interest at this time.}



15 Jun 2017 18:47:21
So we are back in the market for another manager!
We have enjoyed "Interesting Times" since Marcus Leibherr saved our very existence, you could even say spoiled by having Pochettino and Keoman, before that Adkins was as solid as! Clued Puel was better than average, he lost the fans by playing across the back and not getting our forwards scoring especially at home.
We will never know what another 2-3 players added to the squad might have done this year, but the damage is more that we are still likely to loss Virgil and Ryan potentially.
We never recovered from loosing Schniderlin - Alderweirald - Wanyama - Sane and even Lallan. We sold Calum Chambers and Shaw when they would have done better to stay but the £50 million that came in from them stabilised the ship! We cannot carry on in this same vein though. we have got away with it, but if you keep better on "Heads" and win three or four tosses in a row, you know it will go "Tails" sooner or later!
So with Tuchel not wanting to come (and we should be asking why) the Board have to get this void filled both quickly (so as not to suffer loss of momentum) and more importantly to hire somebody that wants a minimum of 3 years here or we risk be the PL Transit Camp, not just for good players but managers.
The Board have been strong and I'm sure they know that as Fans we want a level of stability. Still have faith but it would be good to get business done and the new Boss in place within 7 days so that the Board and He can focus on pulling all of the loose ends together.
New season only 8 weeks away!

Pete Wesley

1.) 15 Jun 2017 21:05:54
1. Tuchel wants a team with champions league football that's the reason why
2. Puel was a bad manager 12 wins out of 38 6 points from 17th any manager would be losing his his job! We've had a lucky season cause everyone under us had a bad season he lost the players and the fans what's easier to replace?

2.) 15 Jun 2017 23:22:14
its fair to say the gap between the top teams and the bottom can clearly be distinguished now. The bigger teams were all in consistent form all year and rarely dropped points to lower teams.



01 Jun 2016 18:34:09
If there was any truth in the suggestion that Chelsea wanted Pelle - What about a swap for Loftus-Cheek. what an understudy to Jose Fonte and poetical partner to Van Dyke. Chelsea can afford to let one of the 60 youngsters they have go and they get a very solid player for their squad.

Pete Wesley

1.) 01 Jun 2016 20:21:35
isn't Loftus-Cheek a midfielder?

2.) 01 Jun 2016 20:34:52
loftus cheek won't be an understudy as he doesn't play CB.
I feel as if pelle would only leave southampton for the serie a, but the persuasion of conte could prove crucial nevertheless.

3.) 01 Jun 2016 21:41:29
My mistake - I just thought watching him play for England U21 he moved like Van Dyke and he's a big bugger. rather like Rio Ferdinand. got back well and moved through the field well, powerful and box to box looked good. Would be a good acquisition in my opinion.

4.) 02 Jun 2016 00:30:05
The only thing with Virgil is he doesn't get back . His only fault though but being a central defender that is his job? He is almost a very top, top player but must not forget his defensive duties which I am afraid he does sometimes when he believes he is a centre forward on corners .

5.) 02 Jun 2016 06:18:48
I think you would find VVDs defensive stats one of, if not the best in the league. RK is dutch, he understands how total football works. When VVD goes forward usually wanyama, bertrand, or some other player would take his place. And when VVD ventures forward its not an effort in vain and usually has impetus. He has very good ball control and passing for a defender and physically adept as well. He's not a david luiz that's for sure.

6.) 02 Jun 2016 09:14:59
I think the biggest concern is the fact that the Koeman to Everton has reappeared surely we should ensure he sees out his last year if he doesn't want to sign a new deal. The transfer fee would be negligible and Under Armour would expect some stability. IF it was to a big club I could understand it but Everton peaked at 4th about 8 years ago a big club? They will lose Lukaku for 30m ish and Stones probably for the same. So major rebuild required if he is seriously considering it we must be a stepping stone at best to all in Football.

7.) 02 Jun 2016 10:47:34
Y would Everton take 30 million for lukaku? Utter garbage my friend.

8.) 02 Jun 2016 11:28:31
Please Koeman isn't going to Everton.

9.) 02 Jun 2016 13:31:56
There has been a load of bets placed today which have shortened his odds to move to Everton.
He is now favourite.

10.) 03 Jun 2016 06:39:29
Y would anyone pay much more than 39m now he has stated he wants to leave seen 65 m banded about let me think is he as solid as Suarez 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂NO not half as good as when he left liverpool.

11.) 03 Jun 2016 10:35:24
So suarez is the transfer value marker now? Its what the club values that player at and lukaku has scored many premier league goals and is still a young man with I think 3 years left on contract. 30m you having a laugh? since were playing the compare a player game. david luiz fifty mil/ Lukaku 200m, that is nonsense sorry. he states he wants to leave, but he's under contract. He also stated he would not push a move through (but belief in that is another question) Manchester united have finished lower than a fair few clubs since ferguson left, are those clubs that were higher than united better and bigger clubs? No they just finished higher than them on a short term basis. can't believe people think Southampton are a bigger club than everton haha.

12.) 03 Jun 2016 10:55:40
Didn't say they were a bigger club than Everton actually don't think they are a big club apart from on the south coast but they are an established premier league club. Have progressed year on year for the 5 or 6 and keep discovering talent. I used suarez as an example as a basically rubbish liverpool team challenged for the title with him in it. Everton with Lukaku have not. If someone pays 60M for him and 20-25 is not his wages there really is more money than sense in football, going by that Kane must be 150 M plus as a benchmark.
With regards to Everton- have and always will be a reliable top 10 team, I believe they peaked at 4th in the last 10 years so hardly a massive step up and will always be the smaller team on Merseyside. Just a fact, history makes big teams not money or stadia so would take a long time to change the perception of non Evertonians.

13.) 03 Jun 2016 11:20:45
No personal attacks on southampton every fanbase is similar, infact people are the same in life, me myself at times. I see it more like thethe potential of the next two years is more rellevant than the last two. Plus I've been defensive in the same way previously. Just that I read the post over and it seemed a bit more antaganistic than intended. Things change so quickly, we were top 4 contenders than jokes and now people are saying money talks about everton. Crazy stuff.

14.) 03 Jun 2016 11:47:12
Everton are rich with history. Such a condenscending person. Who says I was soley speaking to you, are there not other fans on here. Everton would be a step up for koeman. He would have much more room and potential and funding for development. Everton are a bigger club than southampton. Last ten years we've been the better, the next ten years we will be the better.

15.) 03 Jun 2016 13:04:58
If you spend 100m on your current squad that should close the gap to a level par with Saints for next season. Koeman probably no better or worse a tactician than Martinez who you all raved about till last year so unless he got more stupid assume it is the players and not the coach who cause the issue. Staplewood is the model for a training centre and cost 35-50m to develop depending on which report you read, although land probably cheaper up there. Everton may in time finish higher than Saints with Koeman's guidance and massive investment however will always be inferior to the Red half in everyone's eyes except the blue ones which are misty with time. If he goes good luck we have clearly shown a lack of ambition and you have showed him the MONEY to coin a phrase. You will only be a stepping stone to a BIG club though which is probably 8-10 in Europe. If he does what he did for us for you he will be gone sooner rather than later. Still it may move you in the right direction temporarily.
YNWA rather than Z cars.

16.) 03 Jun 2016 14:23:48
Hahahahahahahahaha youve made my day mate hahaha.

17.) 03 Jun 2016 15:42:31
I've just heard that PNE are trying to scupper this deal and appoint RK themselves. They've stated that they've seen the Everton claims that they're a bigger club because a few decades ago they were quite good and won a couple of trophies, and have pointed out that if that's the criteria they are a bigger club than both. The Oystens are reported to be gutted that they filled their vacancy so quickly as they also have more history than both clubs, and had they known the proper criteria for assessing how big a club is, they would have approached RK themselves. I think Greece are looking for a more influential EU role due to their "history. "

Blue-tit, you really couldn't have picked a more appropriate username.

18.) 03 Jun 2016 18:12:08
You think your clever but that whole post was just a failed effort and a waste of time. Youve finished higher than us twice. We have finished above liverpool in seasons gone past and I was under no delusions that liverpool were and are a bigger club. With or without koeman everton will be more a successful club and have been.



26 Jul 2014 18:23:09
On Calum Chambers, heard today from Pat Rice that the deal is done, he was asked to look at Calum at the last U19s England game and apparently it was between him and a guy from Olympiakos. he recommended Calum as his verdict was that he is better than Shaw as a complete player, especially interested in him becoming a CB for Arsenal. Pat knows a good player when he sees one. Don't understand why we are letting him go so early, he will be worth £25 million plus in 12-24 months time and we need him playing for Saints.

Pete Wesley

1.) 27 Jul 2014 01:32:14
Something has been bothering me because rumour has it that most of the people calling for us to sign Forster have actually never seen him play. If true would you employ someone on top money if you didn't know what you are getting. I am not saying he is lousy keeper just wondered where all this knowledge is coming from.

2.) The club is letting him go because the player told Southampton he wanted to leave.
No point in keeping an unhappy player.

Fans have to grip this: the Board can't control what players want. They can't force players to sign and they can't order players to stay

3.) I think l'll put my trust in Dave Watson not anyone else. If he thinks he's good enough that's good enough for me.

4.) They can force players to stay, if they've signed a contact.
The problem is getting them to play well if they're heart's not in it!

5.) 27 Jul 2014 08:56:39
how can a 19 tear old dictate to a club
telling the club he wants to leave and gets his wish more or less straight away
have this board got no balls at all

6.) Fatdave: the player did not say he wanted to leave, absolute rubbish!!

7.) I tell you why, £16m is a lot for a player when you have Clyne in the same position.

8.) 27 Jul 2014 10:11:31
chambers did tell the club he wanted to leave fact

9.) Some fans are so deluded they think the board/owner are actually trying to do the best for the club which is absolute tosh! even if true then there best is not good enough!

10.) Talking about trusting someone, who did we trust when we signed Osvaldo? Doesn't always work out you know. Just seems loads of dough for an untried keeper in the Prem. He may be 3rd choice England keeper but do you know how many English keepers there are in the Premier League??

11.) Depth of squad?
what about injuries?
It's very rare fpr players to play every game, there will be times when we need to rest players and rotate the squad. We can't do this if we're selling, selling, selling and not replacing them.

12.) 27 Jul 2014 10:59:52
St Tony you miss the point here. Calum Chambers is not merely a Right back he has the potential to be an influential central defender. And WHEN he plays for England it will be as a centre back. Arsenal and England under 19 recognise it why can't Southampton. Especially when the central defence is our Achilles heel. It is in this very area which will condemn us to a long hard winter in the bottom 6.

13.) Naive

saintben: As someone else confirmed, Chambers told the club he wanted to leave. Nonsense to believe otherwise.

Shaw told the club he wanted to leave over a year ago. Lovren wanted to leave blah blah etc

What is it with fans and naivety? This inability to understand that players don't see the club in the same way that fans do.

I warned on these ages that Shaw wanted out but fans repeatedly denied it over and over again. Until Shaw himself admitted it.

Players rarely ask for transfers nowadays; to avoid losing their loyalty bonus, they just indicate their desire to leave. Equally, tapping up doesn't really exist because agents do it all. When any club claims there has been no approach for a player from another club, what they aren't admitting is that the agents are negotiating with each party.

Equally, transfer fees are not paid in one lump sum like Football Manager. Chambers is being sold for 7 million, increasing to 16 million depending on clauses. The 7 million is being paid over 2 years; this is pretty much standard procedure.

Boards and managers can't stop players from wanting to leave. All they can do is maximise the price. New contracts are meaningless: it gives a player and agent extra money but fundamentally won't stop the player from asking to leave at a later date.

Boards also can't force players to sign. Its guaranteed that Southampton will be working hard to bring in new players but RK needs time and he needs time to assess the squad. The club is negotiating hard for Forster and I understand also for Vlaar and De Vries. I also keep hearing about links with Batshuayi.

Calm down

14.) Fatdave: yes you at naive!

Please tell me your sorce? I will happily put my hands up if I'm wrong. Waiting to hear from my mate who is a physio and told me about every player that has left.

He told me Lallana would def leave long before the World Cup. Chambers he has not said anything about and I don't believe he asked to leave. If wrong and my source says otherwise I will be the first to apologies! So where's your sorce?

Now let's assume he did ask to leave! Why the hell could we not say NO your not going end of story. He would of got over it soon enough. He will now have less playing time than he had with us.

Suarez was told by Liverpool he was going nowhere last season and that was that. He had his best ever season.

Selling chambers was a big mistake and now there at of the squad are naturally going to be considering their future.

Poch was told this would happen and that's why he left!

15.) I'm in agreement with Saint_ben here.
Fatdave for you to claim someone else as 'naive' and then in the same sentence state 'nonsense to believe otherwise' that is in FACT a naive way of viewing something (discounting other plausible answers/hypotheses/suggestions - call it what you want).
IMO - call it naive if you like, the talk of Chambers leaving is just too much for most Saints fans, since we've seen others leave and others being linked as leaving this transfer window (linked by strong reliable sources).
Our team/squad and vision is being ripped apart and it's us fans who are feeling the brunt

16.) Saintben: not sure you will ever see this because its already half way down the page.

I don't ever claim to have sources inside the club. My sources are outside the club involved in sporting finance.

I then balance this out will other reporting and informed judgement.
Consequently, (and I wasn't the only one) I predicted that Saints faced a meltdown this summer.
Shaw wanted out over a year ago.
Lovren wanted out.
Lallana wanted out but was uncertain over timelines
Schneiderlin wanted out.
I knew that MoPo was considering his future - but I was wrong in assessing he would stay.

Every time, anyone ever tried to say that players would leave, fans would shoot them down in flames. At times, I wish the Editors would repost some of the denials. "Shaw won't leave, he loves the club, signed a new contract" blah blah. aaaannd he's gone.

I will repeat (fact, as people are prone to say), Shaw was unhappy over a year ago and wanted to leave.

Now for Chambers: Spurs made an enquiry about a month ago. Chambers was interested but Spurs never followed this up. The news that Chambers was interested in a move was conveyed by his agent to other clubs, including Arsenal.

Arsenal have been looking at a full back from the Northern Irish league but based on scouting reports, asked about Chambers. His agent had already made the player aware, so when the enquiry was made, Chambers told the club wanted to move.

And let's face it: Arsenal are an attractive option for any player.

Very few Boards can afford to keep an unhappy player. You quote Suarez - Suarez was never happy at Liverpool and would have agitated this summer for a move anyway, which most insiders believe Liverpool agreed to last season. Suarez agreed to stay one more season before a promised move.

Re: MoPo. MoPo used this as an excuse to leave for Spurs. He wanted to leave anyway but by pinning the blame on the Board, he could deflect blame away from his own treachery. The Board made every reassurance but couldn't guarantee that players would stay because they couldn't afford to keep unhappy players. MoPo knew this but used it as an excuse.

17.) Yes, we can say no, but we seem only too happy to take the money

18.) Ok. Enough is enough. Loads of you are talking out of your arses.
The board are not doing their best for the club??
Well, maybe there is one fact to contradict that statement!!
Ronald Koeman anyone??
You really think he would have took this job if the board wanted to destroy the infrastructure of the club.
Seriously - engage brain before opening gobs!!




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01 Sep 2018 15:01:37
Just seen the line up for todays game against Crystal Palace. disappointed yet again!

Why no Sam Gallagher . no Gabbiadini (okay he is not in form) but all we have is Charlie Austin and the continual perseverance with Shane Long is doing my head in!

No Stuart Armstrong - is he injured?

Also Yoshida on the bench, would rather see Hoedt step to the bench and see what Vesterdaard and Yoshida look like.

Prediction 0-0 half time - Palace to take the lead after half time. Shane Long will get substituted after 60 - 70 minutes with desperation setting in for Charlie to try and get a draw!

If we lose today, then there has to be a big question mark over Mark Hughes. We have the players in the squad but we are too predictable . Shane long wasting a starting berth and that's my view .!
Pee'd off Pete second week in a row. :- ( ( (.

Pete Wesley

1.) 01 Sep 2018 15:29:23
This is Palace without Wilf Zaha. Looks like they're playing 4-4-2 as well. Could be a boring goalless draw.

2.) 01 Sep 2018 17:48:00
Or it could be Palace 0-2 Saints. Well played lads.

3.) 02 Sep 2018 12:01:43
Hoijberg played his best game for saints yesterday
Hughes seems to have tapped into his ability to ping the ball around and to try to create more from out midfield
He played some beautiful cross field balls yesterday commanded the midfield
Scored and I thought ran the show for us
9 out of 10 performance for me.

4.) 03 Sep 2018 11:48:25
Firstly, a very welcome win and 3 points. Gift-wrapped though they were, that is two wins in a week and we can go into the international break with some good feeling. It was encouraging to see Bertrand and Cedric look to overlap often and create width. As another poster has highlighted, Hojberg delighted in having greater time to play forwards with willing runners ahead of him which allowed him to demonstrate a range of passing. His work was complimented by that of Lemina who worked hard from box to box and showed signs of recovery from what has been a lengthy series of disappointing performances.

I also think that Nathan Redmond had another good performance to add to the others so far this campaign. He has used his pace and skill to great effect at times to unsettle defences and create chances for himself and team mates. He too is showing very encouraging signs of a return to form after a quiet season last time out. Another game and another goal for Danny Ings who is having a very positive impact already on our attack which will hopefully only improve as his understanding with those around him develops. The players we have at our disposal in attack remain an exciting prospect which could be electric if harnessed correctly.

I could leave it there, but there is a ‘but’ to both this win and the midweek cup win against Brighton. It suffices to say on the latter that both side’s were much altered from Premier league outings but we arguably have greater strength and depth than Brighton with much first team experience taking the field compared to our opponents and even then, it too until very late in the game for us to score.

As for this weekend, we were playing a Palace side without Wilfred Zaha. Palace have played 12 games without Zaha and lost all 12 since their last win in his absence. You may recall their most torrid moments last season were without him compared to their assured results and performances in the starting 11. Even Roy Hodgson accepts that it is a major issue for them.

In the absence of Zaha, Palace lined up in a 4-4-2 formation similar to our own. This did little to aid their performance but meant we were playing like-for-like and had a better foothold in midfield. The first 45 minutes was pretty dour as Palace seemed reserved and uncertain and we struggled to create any real clear cut chances. Its unclear whether this was a return to Saints’ slow starts, conservatism in an away game or a little anxiety starting to creep in. It was perhaps fitting that the first goal came from individual error rather than brilliance. The ball from Cedric was a teasing one but Sakho was unconvincing in ducking under the pass, concentrating more on Shane Long than the ball. It was almost as if Martin Kelly behind him had called for him to leave it, only he hadn’t, made clear when he simply watched the ball bounce across in front of him whilst simultaneously letting Ings run off his back to stab home. Good ball, good finish, awful defending.

We then had the momentum and looked to score again. Shane Long’s injury brought an early introduction for Charlie Austin who came on and looked a little short of sharpness and fitness for the time he was on the pitch. His desire to score should be applauded but perhaps it would’ve been better for a player up to match speed and in form to take the penalty rather than Austin. Hindsight is a wonderful thing they say. The penalty miss proved a catalyst for Palace to realise they were lucky to still be in the game and so they snatched momentum and attacked and pressed for the remainder of the game. If they had an inform goal scorer in their side, they created enough chances to win the game but as it was, they needed Benteke to find a goal from somewhere. He failed to find the target, even when only about 3 yards out.

The forward press in search of a goal and fatigue can often lead to being caught on the counter and that’s how we scored our second. It was a well worked goal from start to finish and fitting that Hojberg scored it having played so well. He is much better for his teammates when driving them forward with his talent on the ball as opposed to diving too angrily into challenges or diving for penalties as last week. His performance was the perfect response to the disappointment of last week.

So confidence should be taken from a positive second-half performance, individually and collectively. Next we are at home to Brighton who will prove a tricky opponent in a couple of weeks time. But its another game, at home, they we should be looking to win to avoid placing too much pressure on the games against teams more likely to finish in the top half of the table.



26 Aug 2018 08:50:55
The game yesterday was in my opinion pivotal in that Mark Hughes has observed the fact that in the Games against Burnley and Everton, we had awful first halves, which then turned into better second halves.

Why therefore did we not stick to the same side (either) that had decent second halves?

When seeing the Team Sheet on arriving at the ground, I was gutted. Why are we continually reverting to Shane Long, after 37 games of no cutting edge its madness.

They said on Football Focus that Southampton have the lowest goal per game in 2018 (from Jan 1st) in the Premiership, less than a goal a game.

To me its obvious that Stuart Armstrong should have started and so should Gabbiadini alongside Danny Ings.

We are suffering at the back and although Hoedt had an okay game, the pairing of Soares/ Hoedt to the right of defence has cost us! Last week Hoedt was that bad that he didn't deserve a start and Yoshida/ Vestagaard as CBs would have been preferable.

Harry Maguire then shows the weakness perfectly in added minutes and scores the killer punch, poor!

I like Soares a lot, but his height caused a problem yesterday especially with high balls that he couldn't direct away from Leicester players.

Yes we played better football, yes we pressed better for the first 70 minutes but the "Cutting Edge" is not there is it?

Shane Long runs around and tries his best, work ethic is fine but he is not at Premiership level, no goals, and very little creativity. He does he best but his best is not good enough.

Bright Points

Lamina put a shift in and was our best player. Vestergaard headed everything and other than getting done on pace occasionally was good. Redmond in the first half was very good, he ran and ran with purpose, second half I think he wan out of steam (not surprising) .

Great goal by Bertrand and he worked hard. Still not convinced that he is a Captain.!

Mo Elyanussi was okay in the first half but was clearly knackered by 50-55 minute but Hughes left him on, mistake should have put on Ward Prowse.

Hojbjerg then attempts "Cheating" and is rightly sent off. what a totally stupid thing to do! Personally, I wouldn't let him in the first team for three games to teach him a lesson, and not pay him either!

We then bring on Romue, in an attempt to salvage a point, didn't work, poor substitutions by the manager in my opinion.

Im convinced that we need to stop trying the same old same old!

Lets stop using Shane Long and Charlie Austin. please!

Sam Gallagher is either good enough to be given a run of games, or let him go! We have lost Sims on loan, I get it but wouldn't that have been a plan yesterday if he was on the bench?

No Gabbiadini even on the bench. why?

Matt Target - Sam McQueen and Ward Prowse all hanging around like Haemorrhoids come on, we have to be smarter in Team selection and either trust these youngsters or what.? Carry on using Shane Long and Charlie Austin, leave Gabbiadini in a restaurant somewhere for the afternoon and end up with two games to go at the end of the season needing 3 points to stay up? Is that a bloody plan?

Okay its 3 games in, there is hope of aligning things, but the manager has to quickly stop doing the same things, using the same strike force that caused us to score very few goals and end up in the Poo last year.

Im bored writing this now, loosing as we did yesterday, completely flattens the weekend, little point in buying a paper, little point in watching Motd, instead I could take the dog for a walk. if I had one!

Have a good Bank Holiday fellow sufferers, and go and buy a dog or something!

Pee'd Off Pete.

Pete Wesley

1.) 26 Aug 2018 09:51:40
We as Saints fans are realistic and I had hopped we would be competing for somewhere between 7th and 12th this season. maybe we will, and I would be happy with that after last season. The problem is you should be getting points against the teams playing for those places (Everton, Burnley, Leicester) we have not in the first 3 games. could be a long season. Look at Bournemouth with a great start to the season and dare I say it doing things how we used to.



12 Aug 2018 19:37:30
Saints v Burnley

Before the game started, and on the way to the ground, felt full of optimism at starting the new season.
When the teams were announced, I was flat! My football buddy, Rob was fairly pleased.

The Goalkeeper - Great

5 at the back. umm, okay but we were at home, and so I wanted us to get back to pressing football, ala Pochettino days.
Three CBs - two Wing Backs?

Midfield - Romue and Lamina, was okay with that, as long as Lamina pushed forward a bit, last year he was too deep.

Stuart Armstrong - Great!

Then the Forwards - Redmond and Charlie Austin. my view to Rob was well at that rate we will go in 0-0 at half time and hope that Mark Hughes then realised the error of his ways and changed the format.

Why when you have Danny Ings and Mo Elyounoussi available, are you going to start with Charlie and Redmond.?

The first 20 minutes we were all over the place, okay first game and all that but still!

Burnley were way more organised and were unlucky not to go in halftime one or two goals up.

Second half starts and Stuart Armstrong gets taken out by Charlie Austin! MH has to make a substitution and indeed brings on Ings for Armstrong and Elyounoussi for Cedric Soares on about 56 minutes!

It was like the lightbulb went on. Danny Ings was sublime, total quality, Mo too started to make moves and to be fair Nathan Redmond started playing way better.

Charlie Austin is too static, heart as big as an Ox, but too slow and need gift rapped opportunities, i know that he can find the net, but doesn't create and carve out opportunities.

The same can't be said for Danny Ings, he was unlucky not to score, but he will, as will Mo. quality!

Lamina had a very good game as did Jack Stephens who should be a starter against Everton next week.

Jannik Vestergaard solid rather than spectacular, but he should be starting next week too.

Cedric Soares, looked like he was fresh back after a stomach problem, but he will be back to his best very soon.

Ryan Bertrand (Captain) still think we need a proper Captain. Solid enough but only a 6/ 10, also concerned that Matt Targett, having been kept back needs some game time, he is our future!

Manola Gabbiadini porr bloke needs to start a game not just be given 18 minutes.

Ward Prowse - he must be so fed up, i know its difficult but he adds something, certainly he must be wondering how he gets a game.

Mark Hughes - Its difficult. personally think we should have started as per the 2nd half team, give Charlie a break, start Danny Ings and Mo.

At least i said to my mate Rob what i thought would happen, and not too far wrong. Redmond is out big arguing point, Rob likes him, i don't, same with Austin but hey. what do i know?

Still a good afternoon out with very good company!

We will finish 10th - 12th this year, as long as the Wine Gums improve. :-) )


Pete Wesley

1.) 12 Aug 2018 22:20:56
Agree with quite a lot of this, although I think it's reasonable that Ings didn't start this one given that he's been here 2 days lol.

Couldn't agree more that we need to get back to playing a faster tempo and pressing in a way which causes other teams issues, even if we're left exposed every now and again. My team for next game:

Cedric, Vestergaard, Stephens, Bertrand
Lemina, Ward-Prowse
Redmond, Ings, Elyounoussi.

2.) 13 Aug 2018 07:32:00
Knowing how solid defensively Burnley were last season and the fact that they've played a couple of competitive matches before us, plus this being our first competitive match and all that, I'll take a draw. The signs have been a bit more promising but I do hope the goals will come soon.

Would love to see a classic 4-4-2






Course up against any stronger side this would be straight up murder lol. Probably take gabs out and put an extra midfielder on. Not knowing how serious Armstrong's injury is, I'd have a proper headache once he's fit. And I haven't even thought about Hojbjerg.

3.) 13 Aug 2018 11:41:09
I said in my pre-match article that three centre-backs could cause us issues in the game and so it proved. Bertrand and Cedric were kept pinned back by Burnley’s wide men and that meant we defended with 5 and our attacks were forced through a very narrow corridor which played entirely into Burnley’s hands. I was very pleased with Vestergaard’s performance though. Chris Woods is quite good at bullying centre backs but Vestergaard gave as good as he got if not better. I expected Woods to get the better of him physically but none of it. Loved seeming him pushing Woods around at times. He past his first real test well.

I was also pleased with Redmond’s performance. His ability to beat players and some direct running worked well in both halves to keep the Burnley defence on their toes but there were flashes in the second half especially where they couldn’t touch him. That’s the sort of performance we want to see from him every week.

We all agree that Saints improved with the formation change half way through the second half. With more time, we could have scored the all important winning goal and its frustrating that this formation wasn’t used from the off. Ings’ link-up play was very good when he came on, should have been awarded a penalty and he helped to revive a flagging attack. Mo had some good flashes too.

Before the game I said I would take a draw and so I’m not to disappointed with the draw. I was happy there were more positives in the performance that I was expecting both defensively and offensively and I feel more confident we have the right players here for us to have a good season. We just need the man in charge to put the player’s in their best positions to realise their full potential.

4.) 13 Aug 2018 17:07:42
I'm still (I've been saying this for over a year) struggling to find anything positive about Gabby. Would love to see Austin and Ings get regular game time to form a partnership. Personally think this season looks to be a usual roller coaster ride but with much more positives then last year. Happy to finish in the top half. That would be a good season.

5.) 13 Aug 2018 18:45:09
agree with cyprussaint, gabbiadini had the perfect chance to score, free header at the back post and he chose to head it back across goal - that wouldn't be so bad had it not been for the fact there was no one there. A) why didn't he just go for goal and B) shows he has a lack of awareness, could've looked up, didn't. There's a reason 3 different managers haven't started him regularly

Goals for Ings will come. Looked full of pace (which was the biggest worry signing him imo) once he gets his eye in, he'll be great. Redmond and Elyounoussi look a great partnership, always knew where each other was and what each other were going to do. Imagine that when they've had a few more games.

Could be a decent season, goals will come, just down to the defence doing their job imo.

6.) 14 Aug 2018 10:38:53
I can understand the frustration with Gabbi but he came on as a sort of right winger and that is not a role he is either familiar with or comfortable playing. He did manage to get on the end of a cross but he was well behind the back post leaving such an acute angle, scoring was highly unlikely and there was also a defender and goalkeeper between him and the goal. The percentage play was to head it back across goal as he did but there was no-one there to benefit. Sometimes, the speed of play dictates that you have to make an educated guess as to the best thing to do without having the luxury of a glance across the field to see where your teammates are. I think its extremely harsh to criticise him for not scoring a near impossible header and for heading it back across goal to no-one in red and white, when we were pushing for a goal and he had a reasonable expectation that with two strikers on the pitch and another attacking midfielder who can play as a striker, someone would gamble and make a late run towards goal.

Gabbi hasn't always done himself any favours when he has played but he has largely been played in a system that doesn't suit him. He is not a lone striker who enjoys holding up play and when playing on the right, he likes to drift into central spaces to link up with a striker. That was not possible and not necessary on Sunday as Redmond, Ings and Elyounoussi all occupied the spaces he likes to play in. He therefore stayed wider and could have little impact on the game.



11 Aug 2018 11:58:24
Watched Saints U23 against Middlesborough last night on Saints TV.
Have to say very pleasantly surprised. There has been talk that our academy has run dry, well think again!

Alfie Jones is strong, has good vision and looks a very good Captain.

Alongside him Thomas O, Connor is both accomplished and has all the attributes of a solid Central Defender, he could play in the Championship now and would do well (Great New signing)

Callum Slattery showed massive potential a couple of years ago, fell away a little. well he's back! His physic has improved and his speed and ability to get in to very good position reminded me of Grealish. looks very good.

Jake Vokins and Jan Valery would not look out of place in benched for the first Team and have a very bright future, Jake has a wicked cross in him Jan, well is Soares gets injured, He's you man!

Jake Hesketh, my Mate Rob (who knows his football and was a very good player himself) rates young Jake very highly. He has beefed up a bit and has some silky skills, don't know where he went on holiday, but He's come back a man!

Michael Obafemi, is strong, quick and never gives up chasing anything, think he has picked that up from Shane Long, we know he has goals in him, not last night, but he will!

Josh Simms played last night, if I'm honest he looked a bit peed off at dropping away from the First Team, he has a little to do but it will be his year, this is a test!

Marcus Barnes - on very late but instant impact, think he was a Gazelle in a previous life.! quick, and slotted the 2nd goal in very well.

Good to see the owners including Katerina at the game too, they all seemed to be enjoying the game!

In a Nutshell - Our Academy is on the March again. just like Saints!


Pete Wesley

1.) 11 Aug 2018 12:37:52
Good news Pete. Nice to know about ms. Leibherr attending too. Positive news.

2.) 11 Aug 2018 13:54:25
Slattery has been hampered with injuries but he is the next big thing. We got rid of two attacking midfielders in Tadic and Boufal and only signed one in Elyounessi. Hopefully this means that Sims can get more of a chance this season. He has the raw talent and will progress with more game time.



09 Aug 2018 21:06:32
Danny Ings is back home and we should welcome him with open arms. The Saints Board and Management have done a cracking job in bringing in 5 strong players, and just as importantly, not loosing promising young players to our opposition.

This was in my opinion a testament of the heart felt warmth that Danny created whilst at Liverpool.


Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp has paid a heartfelt tribute to Danny Ings after his move to Southampton and says everyone at the club will miss him.

"It is a very strange feeling saying goodbye to Danny. The biggest emotion is how much we will miss him, " he told the club's official website.

"He is such an outstanding boy. Honestly, if you could bottle character and spirit, his would sell worldwide - he is so incredibly positive and full of energy. But we won't just miss his character because he is a footballer who has all the tools.

"We say farewell to a friend, but for Danny I know the best chapters in his personal story are still to be written. He is as fit now as at any point of his career I would bet and he just requires the opportunity. He has that opportunity and on behalf of his Liverpool family we say good luck Danny and we will miss you. "

No true fan can complain about the commitment of our club, or the feeling that we are on the up again!

Looking forward to Sunday with my mate Rob Eason, we have known each other since England won the World Cup and argue in a very friendly way daily. but we care passionately about Saints, its youngsters and the fact that we love keeping a strong mix of English players coming through the academy and representing our squad.

We March On.!

Pete Wesley

{Ed0333's Note - great post Pete, really nice read. Enjoy Danny Ings. If he stays injury free he’ll get goals for you guys.

1.) 10 Aug 2018 06:53:58
Thank Ed0333, appreciated.
Its never easy being a Saints fan, but wouldn't change that for the world. The enemies enjoyment of following the rollercoaster we call Saints improves our purpose.

Listening to some of our fans never fails to amaze me, its as if we have an endless bucket of money and having to both create and sell players has resulted in a well run football club, that stays within in its means.

If saints fell down to Div 2, Rob and I would still support our club, we have had some great days out and passed untold hours pontificating, discussing, disagreeing and also agreeing!

Every game we alternately take Wine Gums and share then with those around us when we score, they are known as "The Gummie Bears" some are in their 80s and its a ritual, one week we forgot the wine gums, man were we in trouble. :-) )

Anyway your site is great and the job that you do more valuable than you may think, connecting people and allowing views to be aired and discussed reduces alcohol intake and mental health issues spiralling needlessly. :-)

Come on you Reds!

{Ed0333's Note - Thankyou so much Pete you really are a throwback to a bygone era of football fan which is so endearing. The game is awash with so much money now there seems to be a disconnect between club and fan, which is tragic. I’m actually visualisng you handing out the wine gums as I I got to be honest if you hadn’t of got Ings I really feared for you but you’ve given yourself a chance now. He’ll prove a shrewd piece of business if he can look after his knees. He’s a fighter and exactly the type of personality you need when the chips are down. Take care mate and stock up on those wine gums.

2.) 10 Aug 2018 09:23:16
Hi Ed0333 - Though I should explain the Wine Gums malarky and how it started.!

About 7 years ago, we were into the game. closely guarding our Wine Gums and Saints went and scored, this was just as Rob was passing the open packet towards me. as the goal went in, up went his arm raised aloft in triumph and sprayed all surrounding fans with Wine Gums. they all laughed and picked up/ consumed said Wine Gums.

Since then, its a ritual, everybody get one, other than the game when Saints beat Sunderland 8-0, we ran out. :-) )

{Ed0333's Note - thanks Pete..I’ll sleep at night now safe in the knowledge the wine gum mystery has been




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26 Jun 2018 18:26:33
Think we are going to be very pleasantly surprised. Don't focus on the £7 million, if you look at some of the best Saints buys - Ricky Lambert £1 million from Bristol - Steve Davis next to nothing - McCarthy cheap as chips, Romeu £4 million all earn their corn.
Mercenaries (and there are plenty of them) don't have the work ethic it seems.
We do need a good striker - I see we are looking at Danny Ings, ok, he was injured but he could still give us 3-4 good years, he was quality and can be again.
Great season awaits those who are positive!

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21 Jun 2018 09:40:35
Loftus-Cheek is way better than Maddison, he would be perfect at Saints, then let's do a deal on Patrick Roberts from City.
Would love Dzyuba too, so reminds me of a cross between Sir Ricky Lambert and Pelle. Think he could be made available too.
Need a strong older Centre Back, there are couple of Italians that were spoken of.
Steve Davis is going to need replacing unfortunately, he has done a great job for us, brilliant attitude, maybe integrate him into youth management and still give some cover this year?
We need somebody with speed up front and have to probably let Shane Long go whilst he has some value.
If Tadic goes and we have to continue suffering Redmond we will need one replacement there too.
Hope we get the two young Aston Villa players mentioned, but understand that if Villa can flog Jack Grealish and keep Green and the other young chap, it makes sense for them.
We have Josh Simms, Sam Gallagher and Sam McQueen all great young players (And they are ours)!

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Amazed at all of the "Guessing" above. we don't know and Saints always keep the cards close to the chest. Would love to be a negotiator on these deals, its Poker . we should not just stump up additional money unconditionally, we still are a Mid Premiership Team, and you might not think so. but we are very well run!
We have Josh Sims coming back into fitness, that will be like a new signing, we have our new Pelle replacement from Monaco, if you think Mbappe and Falcao were holding back, that's nothing to be ashamed of.
Charlie Austin back training. a great reserve goalkeeper in Forster, Lamina and Romue looking good, not even worried about our Central Defenders and just hope to keep Soares and Bertrand fit because they are "Top Drawer".
Cut the manager some slack and get behind our Team. We will be okay!

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28 Jan 2018 11:43:33
What is wrong with you lot . give the man a chance, at Monaco he had to fight with wonderful players for a starting birth. We have missed Pelle and he has some similar qualities, strong, ariel, good age

Im pleased to see him . welcome to the club, we need your assistance

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Shame - 12 players looked quite good. :-) )

Agree that it will be either Boufal or Tadic and with Tadic he goes missing. Boucle could become very good

Loftus-Cheek has been on my wish list for some time, can't see him going back to Chelsea because they have so many mid-fielders so if he enjoyed his football and we agreed a sensible figure as Bournemouth did with Ake it could work.

MP2 may have something special up his sleeve, and its usual to allow a manager a prodigal son!, whoever it is, needs to have goals in him, not necessarily an out and out striker but a creative offensive midfielder with 6-8 goals in him. Sort of a Steven Davis with goals in him.

Yoshida did well for us last year but he isn't going to displace VVD or Stephens as hardcore Central Defence with the excellent Soares on the Right, if Bertrand stays we have the rear guard on the Team list every game with Oriol Romeu locking down just in-front of them.

Pellagreno will then need to decide on who he prefers with the rest, hopefully Gabbiadini will be a starter and Redmond should push on. Just have a real good feeling about Sam Gallagher, we missed a Lambert/ Pelle player last year and hopefully he can make this his own.

Agree that we don't need many more players and the players that have to push for the right to win their place are:-

Going to be a very interesting year. bring it on!

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10 Aug 2018 22:05:12
Thats another 12 players Saints 123 - The ref is seriously going to fun with you lot.!

Just for the record, let's drop Redmond again to the bench, at least I'm consistent (and can count. :-) ) )

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No Danny Ings.?
Dont disagree with Targett over Bertrand, but feel he will stick with Ryan in the opening game, him being Captain and all that!
Hoedt is not as strong as Yoshida in my opinion, its a great shame because Stephens and Bednarac are also playing well! big fight going on there!
Hojberg has no goals in him and Ward Prowse, provides. its not an easy one that's for sure.

At least we have options.

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Think the referee might have something to say. unless I've missed something and the rules have changed. we are only allowed 11 on the pitch. :-) ) Easy mistake. also easily resolved . park Redmond on the bench, but personally, I would rather
GK: McCarthy
RWB: Cedric
RCB: Yoshida
LCB: Vestergaard
LWB: Bertrand
CDM: Romeu
ROM Ward-Prowse
LOM Armstrong
In the Hole: Elyounoussi.
ST: Ings
ST: Gabbiadini

We are at home, we are up for it so let's not go 5 at the back, back to pressing football. Matt Targett - Lamina and Sam Gallagher as used subs preferences!

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Hi Ed0333 - Though I should explain the Wine Gums malarky and how it started.!

About 7 years ago, we were into the game. closely guarding our Wine Gums and Saints went and scored, this was just as Rob was passing the open packet towards me. as the goal went in, up went his arm raised aloft in triumph and sprayed all surrounding fans with Wine Gums. they all laughed and picked up/ consumed said Wine Gums.

Since then, its a ritual, everybody get one, other than the game when Saints beat Sunderland 8-0, we ran out. :-) )

Pete Wesley

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Thank Ed0333, appreciated.
Its never easy being a Saints fan, but wouldn't change that for the world. The enemies enjoyment of following the rollercoaster we call Saints improves our purpose.

Listening to some of our fans never fails to amaze me, its as if we have an endless bucket of money and having to both create and sell players has resulted in a well run football club, that stays within in its means.

If saints fell down to Div 2, Rob and I would still support our club, we have had some great days out and passed untold hours pontificating, discussing, disagreeing and also agreeing!

Every game we alternately take Wine Gums and share then with those around us when we score, they are known as "The Gummie Bears" some are in their 80s and its a ritual, one week we forgot the wine gums, man were we in trouble. :-) )

Anyway your site is great and the job that you do more valuable than you may think, connecting people and allowing views to be aired and discussed reduces alcohol intake and mental health issues spiralling needlessly. :-)

Come on you Reds!

Pete Wesley

{Ed0333's Note - Thankyou so much Pete you really are a throwback to a bygone era of football fan which is so endearing. The game is awash with so much money now there seems to be a disconnect between club and fan, which is tragic. I’m actually visualisng you handing out the wine gums as I I got to be honest if you hadn’t of got Ings I really feared for you but you’ve given yourself a chance now. He’ll prove a shrewd piece of business if he can look after his knees. He’s a fighter and exactly the type of personality you need when the chips are down. Take care mate and stock up on those wine gums.