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18 Aug 2017 21:38:34
Sam Gallagher is ready . don't underseaimate the guy, he was more than okay 3 years ago under Poch. Blood him, he will not let us down!
Look at Stevens, truth is. with out VVD getting injured he would not have got a start. Now he is solid as rock and a very good player (which he was anyway but hadn't been given the chance to prove it)
Sam can be our Pelle, sell Shane Long, bench Sam, play him in cup games and "Maketh the Man"
Just anted to say . what a great shame that Jake Flannigan has suffered yet again. he was looking real quality and to have an operation on Wednesday is tearible for him (and Saints) we will look after him because we are a quality club with Ethics, Morals and Determination.
Kruger is showing that he is the right man for me, thank you for the BBC interview, you are doing a fantastic job both individually and as a Board.

Pete Wesley

1.) 18 Aug 2017 22:59:53
I actually agree completely and think the only difference between a player out on loan to championship . marked as the clubs saviour and that same player sat on the bench in the premiership not getting game time and almost not needed is confidence. I reckon if Gallagher started 20 games this year he'd get 8 goals. admittedly not setting the world alight but still.

2.) 21 Aug 2017 09:33:09
Harry Kane only got his start due to injuries. I'm not saying Sam is that level but he needs his chance. Hopefully he will start mid week.



02 Jul 2017 18:13:58
There is news that Chelsea are prepared to let Ruben Loftus-Cheek go . this would be a perfect player for Southampton. He has a good football brain and if he came to our set up, I feel he would really set us alight.

Chelsea have a few rough diamonds that we should look at, it worked with Romue and Bertrand. What do you think?

Pete Wesley

{Ed002's Note - It will be a loan and Southampton has not shown any interest at this time.}



15 Jun 2017 18:47:21
So we are back in the market for another manager!
We have enjoyed "Interesting Times" since Marcus Leibherr saved our very existence, you could even say spoiled by having Pochettino and Keoman, before that Adkins was as solid as! Clued Puel was better than average, he lost the fans by playing across the back and not getting our forwards scoring especially at home.
We will never know what another 2-3 players added to the squad might have done this year, but the damage is more that we are still likely to loss Virgil and Ryan potentially.
We never recovered from loosing Schniderlin - Alderweirald - Wanyama - Sane and even Lallan. We sold Calum Chambers and Shaw when they would have done better to stay but the £50 million that came in from them stabilised the ship! We cannot carry on in this same vein though. we have got away with it, but if you keep better on "Heads" and win three or four tosses in a row, you know it will go "Tails" sooner or later!
So with Tuchel not wanting to come (and we should be asking why) the Board have to get this void filled both quickly (so as not to suffer loss of momentum) and more importantly to hire somebody that wants a minimum of 3 years here or we risk be the PL Transit Camp, not just for good players but managers.
The Board have been strong and I'm sure they know that as Fans we want a level of stability. Still have faith but it would be good to get business done and the new Boss in place within 7 days so that the Board and He can focus on pulling all of the loose ends together.
New season only 8 weeks away!

Pete Wesley

1.) 15 Jun 2017 21:05:54
1. Tuchel wants a team with champions league football that's the reason why
2. Puel was a bad manager 12 wins out of 38 6 points from 17th any manager would be losing his his job! We've had a lucky season cause everyone under us had a bad season he lost the players and the fans what's easier to replace?

2.) 15 Jun 2017 23:22:14
its fair to say the gap between the top teams and the bottom can clearly be distinguished now. The bigger teams were all in consistent form all year and rarely dropped points to lower teams.



01 Jun 2016 18:34:09
If there was any truth in the suggestion that Chelsea wanted Pelle - What about a swap for Loftus-Cheek. what an understudy to Jose Fonte and poetical partner to Van Dyke. Chelsea can afford to let one of the 60 youngsters they have go and they get a very solid player for their squad.

Pete Wesley

1.) 01 Jun 2016 20:21:35
isn't Loftus-Cheek a midfielder?

2.) 01 Jun 2016 20:34:52
loftus cheek won't be an understudy as he doesn't play CB.
I feel as if pelle would only leave southampton for the serie a, but the persuasion of conte could prove crucial nevertheless.

3.) 01 Jun 2016 21:41:29
My mistake - I just thought watching him play for England U21 he moved like Van Dyke and he's a big bugger. rather like Rio Ferdinand. got back well and moved through the field well, powerful and box to box looked good. Would be a good acquisition in my opinion.

4.) 02 Jun 2016 00:30:05
The only thing with Virgil is he doesn't get back . His only fault though but being a central defender that is his job? He is almost a very top, top player but must not forget his defensive duties which I am afraid he does sometimes when he believes he is a centre forward on corners .

5.) 02 Jun 2016 06:18:48
I think you would find VVDs defensive stats one of, if not the best in the league. RK is dutch, he understands how total football works. When VVD goes forward usually wanyama, bertrand, or some other player would take his place. And when VVD ventures forward its not an effort in vain and usually has impetus. He has very good ball control and passing for a defender and physically adept as well. He's not a david luiz that's for sure.

6.) 02 Jun 2016 09:14:59
I think the biggest concern is the fact that the Koeman to Everton has reappeared surely we should ensure he sees out his last year if he doesn't want to sign a new deal. The transfer fee would be negligible and Under Armour would expect some stability. IF it was to a big club I could understand it but Everton peaked at 4th about 8 years ago a big club? They will lose Lukaku for 30m ish and Stones probably for the same. So major rebuild required if he is seriously considering it we must be a stepping stone at best to all in Football.

7.) 02 Jun 2016 10:47:34
Y would Everton take 30 million for lukaku? Utter garbage my friend.

8.) 02 Jun 2016 11:28:31
Please Koeman isn't going to Everton.

9.) 02 Jun 2016 13:31:56
There has been a load of bets placed today which have shortened his odds to move to Everton.
He is now favourite.

10.) 03 Jun 2016 06:39:29
Y would anyone pay much more than 39m now he has stated he wants to leave seen 65 m banded about let me think is he as solid as Suarez 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂NO not half as good as when he left liverpool.

11.) 03 Jun 2016 10:35:24
So suarez is the transfer value marker now? Its what the club values that player at and lukaku has scored many premier league goals and is still a young man with I think 3 years left on contract. 30m you having a laugh? since were playing the compare a player game. david luiz fifty mil/ Lukaku 200m, that is nonsense sorry. he states he wants to leave, but he's under contract. He also stated he would not push a move through (but belief in that is another question) Manchester united have finished lower than a fair few clubs since ferguson left, are those clubs that were higher than united better and bigger clubs? No they just finished higher than them on a short term basis. can't believe people think Southampton are a bigger club than everton haha.

12.) 03 Jun 2016 10:55:40
Didn't say they were a bigger club than Everton actually don't think they are a big club apart from on the south coast but they are an established premier league club. Have progressed year on year for the 5 or 6 and keep discovering talent. I used suarez as an example as a basically rubbish liverpool team challenged for the title with him in it. Everton with Lukaku have not. If someone pays 60M for him and 20-25 is not his wages there really is more money than sense in football, going by that Kane must be 150 M plus as a benchmark.
With regards to Everton- have and always will be a reliable top 10 team, I believe they peaked at 4th in the last 10 years so hardly a massive step up and will always be the smaller team on Merseyside. Just a fact, history makes big teams not money or stadia so would take a long time to change the perception of non Evertonians.

13.) 03 Jun 2016 11:20:45
No personal attacks on southampton every fanbase is similar, infact people are the same in life, me myself at times. I see it more like thethe potential of the next two years is more rellevant than the last two. Plus I've been defensive in the same way previously. Just that I read the post over and it seemed a bit more antaganistic than intended. Things change so quickly, we were top 4 contenders than jokes and now people are saying money talks about everton. Crazy stuff.

14.) 03 Jun 2016 11:47:12
Everton are rich with history. Such a condenscending person. Who says I was soley speaking to you, are there not other fans on here. Everton would be a step up for koeman. He would have much more room and potential and funding for development. Everton are a bigger club than southampton. Last ten years we've been the better, the next ten years we will be the better.

15.) 03 Jun 2016 13:04:58
If you spend 100m on your current squad that should close the gap to a level par with Saints for next season. Koeman probably no better or worse a tactician than Martinez who you all raved about till last year so unless he got more stupid assume it is the players and not the coach who cause the issue. Staplewood is the model for a training centre and cost 35-50m to develop depending on which report you read, although land probably cheaper up there. Everton may in time finish higher than Saints with Koeman's guidance and massive investment however will always be inferior to the Red half in everyone's eyes except the blue ones which are misty with time. If he goes good luck we have clearly shown a lack of ambition and you have showed him the MONEY to coin a phrase. You will only be a stepping stone to a BIG club though which is probably 8-10 in Europe. If he does what he did for us for you he will be gone sooner rather than later. Still it may move you in the right direction temporarily.
YNWA rather than Z cars.

16.) 03 Jun 2016 14:23:48
Hahahahahahahahaha youve made my day mate hahaha.

17.) 03 Jun 2016 15:42:31
I've just heard that PNE are trying to scupper this deal and appoint RK themselves. They've stated that they've seen the Everton claims that they're a bigger club because a few decades ago they were quite good and won a couple of trophies, and have pointed out that if that's the criteria they are a bigger club than both. The Oystens are reported to be gutted that they filled their vacancy so quickly as they also have more history than both clubs, and had they known the proper criteria for assessing how big a club is, they would have approached RK themselves. I think Greece are looking for a more influential EU role due to their "history. "

Blue-tit, you really couldn't have picked a more appropriate username.

18.) 03 Jun 2016 18:12:08
You think your clever but that whole post was just a failed effort and a waste of time. Youve finished higher than us twice. We have finished above liverpool in seasons gone past and I was under no delusions that liverpool were and are a bigger club. With or without koeman everton will be more a successful club and have been.



26 Jul 2014 18:23:09
On Calum Chambers, heard today from Pat Rice that the deal is done, he was asked to look at Calum at the last U19s England game and apparently it was between him and a guy from Olympiakos. he recommended Calum as his verdict was that he is better than Shaw as a complete player, especially interested in him becoming a CB for Arsenal. Pat knows a good player when he sees one. Don't understand why we are letting him go so early, he will be worth £25 million plus in 12-24 months time and we need him playing for Saints.

Pete Wesley

1.) 27 Jul 2014 01:32:14
Something has been bothering me because rumour has it that most of the people calling for us to sign Forster have actually never seen him play. If true would you employ someone on top money if you didn't know what you are getting. I am not saying he is lousy keeper just wondered where all this knowledge is coming from.

2.) The club is letting him go because the player told Southampton he wanted to leave.
No point in keeping an unhappy player.

Fans have to grip this: the Board can't control what players want. They can't force players to sign and they can't order players to stay

3.) I think l'll put my trust in Dave Watson not anyone else. If he thinks he's good enough that's good enough for me.

4.) They can force players to stay, if they've signed a contact.
The problem is getting them to play well if they're heart's not in it!

5.) 27 Jul 2014 08:56:39
how can a 19 tear old dictate to a club
telling the club he wants to leave and gets his wish more or less straight away
have this board got no balls at all

6.) Fatdave: the player did not say he wanted to leave, absolute rubbish!!

7.) I tell you why, £16m is a lot for a player when you have Clyne in the same position.

8.) 27 Jul 2014 10:11:31
chambers did tell the club he wanted to leave fact

9.) Some fans are so deluded they think the board/owner are actually trying to do the best for the club which is absolute tosh! even if true then there best is not good enough!

10.) Talking about trusting someone, who did we trust when we signed Osvaldo? Doesn't always work out you know. Just seems loads of dough for an untried keeper in the Prem. He may be 3rd choice England keeper but do you know how many English keepers there are in the Premier League??

11.) Depth of squad?
what about injuries?
It's very rare fpr players to play every game, there will be times when we need to rest players and rotate the squad. We can't do this if we're selling, selling, selling and not replacing them.

12.) 27 Jul 2014 10:59:52
St Tony you miss the point here. Calum Chambers is not merely a Right back he has the potential to be an influential central defender. And WHEN he plays for England it will be as a centre back. Arsenal and England under 19 recognise it why can't Southampton. Especially when the central defence is our Achilles heel. It is in this very area which will condemn us to a long hard winter in the bottom 6.

13.) Naive

saintben: As someone else confirmed, Chambers told the club he wanted to leave. Nonsense to believe otherwise.

Shaw told the club he wanted to leave over a year ago. Lovren wanted to leave blah blah etc

What is it with fans and naivety? This inability to understand that players don't see the club in the same way that fans do.

I warned on these ages that Shaw wanted out but fans repeatedly denied it over and over again. Until Shaw himself admitted it.

Players rarely ask for transfers nowadays; to avoid losing their loyalty bonus, they just indicate their desire to leave. Equally, tapping up doesn't really exist because agents do it all. When any club claims there has been no approach for a player from another club, what they aren't admitting is that the agents are negotiating with each party.

Equally, transfer fees are not paid in one lump sum like Football Manager. Chambers is being sold for 7 million, increasing to 16 million depending on clauses. The 7 million is being paid over 2 years; this is pretty much standard procedure.

Boards and managers can't stop players from wanting to leave. All they can do is maximise the price. New contracts are meaningless: it gives a player and agent extra money but fundamentally won't stop the player from asking to leave at a later date.

Boards also can't force players to sign. Its guaranteed that Southampton will be working hard to bring in new players but RK needs time and he needs time to assess the squad. The club is negotiating hard for Forster and I understand also for Vlaar and De Vries. I also keep hearing about links with Batshuayi.

Calm down

14.) Fatdave: yes you at naive!

Please tell me your sorce? I will happily put my hands up if I'm wrong. Waiting to hear from my mate who is a physio and told me about every player that has left.

He told me Lallana would def leave long before the World Cup. Chambers he has not said anything about and I don't believe he asked to leave. If wrong and my source says otherwise I will be the first to apologies! So where's your sorce?

Now let's assume he did ask to leave! Why the hell could we not say NO your not going end of story. He would of got over it soon enough. He will now have less playing time than he had with us.

Suarez was told by Liverpool he was going nowhere last season and that was that. He had his best ever season.

Selling chambers was a big mistake and now there at of the squad are naturally going to be considering their future.

Poch was told this would happen and that's why he left!

15.) I'm in agreement with Saint_ben here.
Fatdave for you to claim someone else as 'naive' and then in the same sentence state 'nonsense to believe otherwise' that is in FACT a naive way of viewing something (discounting other plausible answers/hypotheses/suggestions - call it what you want).
IMO - call it naive if you like, the talk of Chambers leaving is just too much for most Saints fans, since we've seen others leave and others being linked as leaving this transfer window (linked by strong reliable sources).
Our team/squad and vision is being ripped apart and it's us fans who are feeling the brunt

16.) Saintben: not sure you will ever see this because its already half way down the page.

I don't ever claim to have sources inside the club. My sources are outside the club involved in sporting finance.

I then balance this out will other reporting and informed judgement.
Consequently, (and I wasn't the only one) I predicted that Saints faced a meltdown this summer.
Shaw wanted out over a year ago.
Lovren wanted out.
Lallana wanted out but was uncertain over timelines
Schneiderlin wanted out.
I knew that MoPo was considering his future - but I was wrong in assessing he would stay.

Every time, anyone ever tried to say that players would leave, fans would shoot them down in flames. At times, I wish the Editors would repost some of the denials. "Shaw won't leave, he loves the club, signed a new contract" blah blah. aaaannd he's gone.

I will repeat (fact, as people are prone to say), Shaw was unhappy over a year ago and wanted to leave.

Now for Chambers: Spurs made an enquiry about a month ago. Chambers was interested but Spurs never followed this up. The news that Chambers was interested in a move was conveyed by his agent to other clubs, including Arsenal.

Arsenal have been looking at a full back from the Northern Irish league but based on scouting reports, asked about Chambers. His agent had already made the player aware, so when the enquiry was made, Chambers told the club wanted to move.

And let's face it: Arsenal are an attractive option for any player.

Very few Boards can afford to keep an unhappy player. You quote Suarez - Suarez was never happy at Liverpool and would have agitated this summer for a move anyway, which most insiders believe Liverpool agreed to last season. Suarez agreed to stay one more season before a promised move.

Re: MoPo. MoPo used this as an excuse to leave for Spurs. He wanted to leave anyway but by pinning the blame on the Board, he could deflect blame away from his own treachery. The Board made every reassurance but couldn't guarantee that players would stay because they couldn't afford to keep unhappy players. MoPo knew this but used it as an excuse.

17.) Yes, we can say no, but we seem only too happy to take the money

18.) Ok. Enough is enough. Loads of you are talking out of your arses.
The board are not doing their best for the club??
Well, maybe there is one fact to contradict that statement!!
Ronald Koeman anyone??
You really think he would have took this job if the board wanted to destroy the infrastructure of the club.
Seriously - engage brain before opening gobs!!




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28 Dec 2017 08:06:22
As a Season ticket holder for the last 7 years and a Saints fan for 50 years (just to give you an idea, Terry Payne and Ron Davies where playing in the first game I watched at the Dell)
what do I observe?
Well - the first thing is that the desire for instant gratification is taking away our soul as Saints. Its an instant world these days, look at the managers that have got the sack this year in the Premiership, its mad!
If you take the Top Six, we are never going to compete, their spend guarantees that. its like separating oil and water.
You then have Sean Dyche at Burnley, he is doing incredibly well, is outperforming and every other Team in the Premiership would employ him (Saints included) but if he is sensible, he will stay at Burnley. why risk going to Saints or Everton. how many mangers have they had in the combined time that he has been at Burnley.?
So where do Saints look for a manager if they decide to shoot MP.? Common is a possible, how gutted were we all when he left for the Dollars at Everton?
Why have we no future Managers being created within? If we had Franny Benali and Matt Le Tiss running the Team at least we know they bleed Saints when they are cut!
Personally I think that MP has had a rough ideal: My best mate Rob and I discussed the following - Reasons for loss of place:
(1) Van Dyke - totally destroyed pre season by being a knob, he showed his colours 20% Loss.
(2) Frazer Forster - Loss of form, mistakes have cost us at least 6 points - 10% Loss
(3) Nathan Redmond - Ineffective and should be dropped - 10% Loss
(4) Shane Long - What has happened to him? Got to go and should have been sold before starting the year - 15% Loss
(5) Bertrand and Redmond Arguing every frigging game - 5% Loss
(6) Gabbiadinni - Not supported but should still have carved out 4-5 goals - 10% Loss
(7) Bertrand - Lack of desire compared to last year, good in parts -10% Loss
(8) MP - Not making substitutions quick enough when team not working - 10% Loss
(9) MP - Not picking players a game after playing really well - 10% Loss
(10) MP - not picking the right team from the off - 10% Loss
(11) Remue and Lamina not bonding and individual performances sometimes flakey - 10% Loss
(12) JWP - Too slow and playing backwards too much, should be able to hit target from open play. - 10% Loss
(13) Boufal - played out of position but goes missing and always has to do one more turn. also doesn't run back to help - 10% Loss
(14) Yoshida - positioning giving too many goals away, tried hard but needs more awareness - 10% Loss
(15) Whole Team - Strikes on goal, the percentage on target is woeful, how can professional players not hit target every other strike? - 20% Loss

You can see that we are performing about 160% less than we should be. Now you can have more than 100% because its a potential increment improvement we could be 3 times as good therefore 300%.

Life is not perfect but collectively, the Team and its Manager are fragmented, I personally think we can do way better with what we have, but need some fresh blood especially up front and competition with a GK.

MP needs to stop dropping to the bench players that are playing well and we need to play two strikers up front at least some of the time.

Happy New Year to all you fellow Saints Sufferers. :-) ) )

Pete Wesley



07 Aug 2017 18:51:10
So VVD feels "Insulted" how does he thing the Saints fans feel?
Mauricio Pellagreno said in the Telerraph article on Saturday that. Its so difficult managing 25 players that are all millionaires with top cars, beautiful woman and that firstly they need to "Love what they Do" He worked on his fathers farm and played football for fun! Most of this was also in the Echo and worth a read. He is grounded, balanced and I feel we have an absolute Diamond of a manager.
VVD clearly is a very good player, but its gone to his head. it hasn't made him a very good human being has it?
We don't know what permutations might come from this, personally think we should not allow him to go to Liverpool, why should we? Its all about Me - Me - Me with this guy, no loyalty, no class, plenty of greed and no respect to the club, the fans or the medical team that worked so hard on him.
Options: Man City with Patrick Roberts coming back the other way permanently plus £35-40 Million!
Arsenal - Calum Chambers coming back plus say £35 - £40 million,
Chelsea - Look at what youngsters they have plus £45 million or even better
Barcelona with 1-2 players plus cash.?
He has effectively ended his time at Saints, but it will have him. Karma will get him. it always does.!
We are going to have a fantastic year without him.

Pete Wesley

1.) 07 Aug 2017 20:44:31
Apparently swap deals are almost impossible with how complicate modern transfers are. Still agree that we could surely use VVD as leverage to get another player since there's so much competition for his signature.

Never understood why you can't do that. If Chelsea come knocking, surely we can say, for example, so what if you don't want to sell Christensen. We don't want to sell Van Dijk, but we'll give you a fair price if you give us one and everyone wins. Especially if we were willing to give them a buy back clause (though I'd rather avoid things like that) .

In this case, I'd love to try and get Christensen, Zouma or even Batshuayi (seems a bit unrealistic) from Chelsea, the ox (unrealistic again I think), or Danny Ings, who I think could be a cheap option that still has some potential.

{Ed002's Note - It really doesn't work like that.}

2.) 07 Aug 2017 22:53:12
I get that Ed I just don't really see why not.

3.) 08 Aug 2017 15:14:30
It's dream talk like ed said
But just imagine them three in the team that's here.
Batshuayi and gabbi
That would go somewhere.



05 Aug 2017 20:27:35
Enjoyable game today, some real positives and a 100 better than Wednesday.
Gabbiadini showing passion, commitment and great vision. Good to see Oriol Remeu back to his classy self, JWP was looking full of energy and some great contribution in the first half.
Sofiane Boufal was showing brilliant skips on the ball and I'm pleased to say, supported by racing back when needed.
Cedric Soares was doing so well, and Jack Stevens shows that he has learnt from VVD, the way he runs forward is just great, made a couple of small errors but still an 8/ 10 performance.
Ryan Bertrand looked disengaged, just as he did the last 6 games of the season.
Shane Long and Dusan Tadic both need to improve, personally I would let Shane go and bring in another player.
Good to see Jake Flannigan, was unlucky with a great attempt on goal.
Sam Gallagher was in a great place to pop a goal but had only ben on the field a couple of minutes and fluffed it! To me he is a great prospect and should be given game time where possible.
Nathan Redman was off the boil, not sure if he knows where he is supposed to be on the field just at the minute.
VVD saga needs to be resolved and reading the article in the Telegraph and Echo tonight, Maurico Pellagreno was measured, intelligent and knows what he is about, congratulations to the Board for a great addition to Team Saints here and his assistant, both have passion and pedigree.
Needs another centre back MayaYoshida had a bad game. his heart is in the right place but several of the mistakes that he made would end in goals in many instances.
Only a week to go. looking forward to it!

Pete Wesley

1.) 05 Aug 2017 22:49:18
Another level headed post Pete. Good to see the positives regarding our homegrown talent. I think they'll keep long as he's honest and you know what you get from him. Apparently man city want Bertrand, but I guess he's been told he's going nowhere either. At least he hasn't gone on strike! Sure he'll be back to his best in the next few weeks.

2.) 05 Aug 2017 23:14:11
I thought Stephens looked brilliant, I love how confidently he drives into the space, very VVD esque!

3.) 05 Aug 2017 23:32:28
Ok here I come gloom and doom man . That wasn't a proper test today we weren't playing the proper Sevilla. It was just fitness training for them, they played a completely different side in the second half so how can we really call that a tough test . Sevilla are playing Everton tomorrow so this was just a run out today for them.

4.) 05 Aug 2017 23:35:46
Yes a good game and result and a few players deffently looked good.
The opponents are where we where 2 weeks ago and also playing Everton tomorrow.
But good game.

5.) 06 Aug 2017 12:50:29
You can only beat what's in front of you lads. I find it ridiculous when we got battered 4-0 not so long ago the squad was heavily criticized but when we win the significance was downplayed and the positives were ignored. Make up your minds. At least be consistent about it!

6.) 07 Aug 2017 10:21:47
Stephen's was quality on Saturday. Kept a good position throughout the game. Had good quality. I think he's first team quality. Drove the ball into good positions and then played it on from there. We look looked attacking with Ward-Prowse and Tadic interchanging between their positions. I don't know if LW is Redmond's best position, he was very quiet, strikes me as a player that will always look to cut in and go alone, but does not have the quality. I'd like to see more of Boufal and Tadic as together they could create a lot of changes. Gabs did a great job at holding up the ball. It's a good option to have him with another striker.
I think our only downfall is when we are pressured we look very shakey. So when we come up against a high pressing team we will not perform well and obviously, it being a pre season friendly Seville were never going to pressure us for 90 minutes.

7.) 07 Aug 2017 13:55:17
Play Seville in two weeks
You will have a total different game .

8.) 07 Aug 2017 13:56:00
We couldn't get out of European group stages.

9.) 07 Aug 2017 15:32:28
I agree Seville weren't at their best. They didn't press us and they've played a lot of football compared to us over the past few weeks. That being said, they still played a strong 11 and even it was a friendly those professional footballers wouldn't have wanted to lose.
@southampton87 we have a new manager, we're playing a different style of football. Our strongest 11 looks strong, we beat the European champions 2-0 let's be positive.



21 Jul 2017 18:33:32
Virgil Van Dyke should consider that he was more than happy to become Team Captain, receive the highest pay ever for a saints player Circa £70k a week and that the Saints fans on average probably earn £30-45k a year.
If I was Katerina Liebherr with her wealth, I would force him to go train with the U18s until he accepts that we are not going to capitulate. Its time to make a stand because we have had it before with Lovren, Lallana and if we accept that "Player Power" rules this time. there will be a next time> If we stand steadfast, maybe they will see the Saints Board in a different light.
There has to be a case with the FA, there has to be a stop to having an open season when the season starts. how can they allow the transfer gate to close on August 30th . if we start the season on 11th. transfers should stop a full week before.
The bigger clubs benefit because they have large squads, we on the other hand and maybe 15 other teams cannot prepare.
Pellagrino has said his words fantastically in my opinion, he is right to take VVD away from the 1st Team and I trust the Board to grasp the nettle, its not easy I know.
We will get over the Tosser wanting to leave. just like Lovren will throw his teddies out of the pram because his ass will warm the bench.
Come on Reds . let's sort it out, wipe our chins and march on. :-) )

Pete Wesley

1.) 21 Jul 2017 18:56:21
So miss out on £60 million and a top player on principle and end up fighting to survive in the PL. The crazy transfer money we would get for him is just what the famous black box could do with.

2.) 21 Jul 2017 19:42:11
Just a quick one Pete but I don't think the average fan of SFC earn between £30 - 45 k a year. I would say £15 - 25 k at a push. Football used to be for the working man after 6 days down the pit or in a factory. Not any more just a money grabbing industry which most can't afford to be involved in . Good TV agreed and wonderful players but thousands of low paid workers can't afford to go or watch it on SKY/ BT because they simply do not have enough money. Sad, I get your point though Pete and it wasn't a personal dig at you. Whatever happened to sport for all.

3.) 21 Jul 2017 19:59:13
Chris - I know exactly what you are saying, but when you look at averages there are Saints supporters that earn £15k and those that earn £100k plus.
Born in Sholing, Weston Park Boss School and a Saints fan for over 50 years.
There are no Matt LeTissiers anymore unfortunately, was looking at his goals on Twitter last night. what a man!

Being a Southampton supporter is great fun though, don't you think.? 1976 what memories Sholing Sports in the evening, pretty much a free bar. took some girl home (never did know her name) Last year League cup, we were robbed . Man Utd were so close to losing, but best bit. there with my mate Rob Easton, also Weston Park, played for Vospers and we started day one St Monica School.52 years later. he is still my best mate.

To all you Saints Fans. don't worry. we will be fine. good season coming your way very soon!

4.) 21 Jul 2017 22:11:21
Be realistic, we are fighting to survive from the first game. We have virtually the same squad that played the last six games of last season. That was relegation form and no change of management will alter that.

5.) 22 Jul 2017 20:01:04
gtsaint - What a negative stand point, we still have some very good players and we have a Manager with Passion supported by a very professional Board.

If we end up 8th-12th, then that would be realistic, if we get out Team playing as a Team, we might hit 7th. What would you want then.? Sign a load of mercenaries . pay stupid wages . live beyond out means.?

We have had a brilliant last 7 years, the support from the Liebherr Family is the only reason for this, combined with strong Board management.

We are having it away, if you were to run Saints PLC. what would you sod then?



20 Jul 2017 12:23:04
Just replied on one of these "Virgil Van Dyke" needs to leave Saints to have a life sites. hope you will agree that they are becoming boring!

This continual "Chatter" trying to get Southampton to capitulate is woeful. He is contracted to us for the next 5 years, he is our Captain and yes he is excellent.
Saints do not want to sell him, why would we? The trouble with Liverpool fans is that they know "The cost of everything and the value of Nothing" we will hopefully inflict the same results against Liverpool in 2017/18 as we did last year.

Pete Wesley

1.) 20 Jul 2017 13:02:21
I agree it is getting a bit "old hat", but It seems to be the way football is conducted now a days. We have been in this position more time than I care to remember! I think we all know that at some point over the season VVD is likely to leave. He will be replaced and he probably won't perform to the standard expected of him at his new club. I think what we need to remember is how amazingly well Southampton has been run over the last few seasons. The club as a collective is far stronger than the sum of one player! We will march on regardless!

BTW I'd love to see him stay, but who knows?

2.) 20 Jul 2017 13:44:21
Well said Pete Wesley and Tal_Bain. Also it would be ironic but just if VVD does eventually go to Liverpool only to replace Lovren who must now be feeling the heat!
Loving the comments from the big man about how the manager is awesome and very impressive. Looking forward to the new season now. Hope we get Patrick Roberts in even on loan. Would like a replacement for VCD ready and then we are good to go. No Europe to worry about. Let's get a good start and get up that table and challenge Koeman and Co for a top 6 finish. COYR.

3.) 21 Jul 2017 09:47:22
VVD will still be a Southampton player come the start of the season and when the window closes.




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30 Jan 2018 19:19:17
Amazed at all of the "Guessing" above. we don't know and Saints always keep the cards close to the chest. Would love to be a negotiator on these deals, its Poker . we should not just stump up additional money unconditionally, we still are a Mid Premiership Team, and you might not think so. but we are very well run!
We have Josh Sims coming back into fitness, that will be like a new signing, we have our new Pelle replacement from Monaco, if you think Mbappe and Falcao were holding back, that's nothing to be ashamed of.
Charlie Austin back training. a great reserve goalkeeper in Forster, Lamina and Romue looking good, not even worried about our Central Defenders and just hope to keep Soares and Bertrand fit because they are "Top Drawer".
Cut the manager some slack and get behind our Team. We will be okay!

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28 Jan 2018 11:43:33
What is wrong with you lot . give the man a chance, at Monaco he had to fight with wonderful players for a starting birth. We have missed Pelle and he has some similar qualities, strong, ariel, good age

Im pleased to see him . welcome to the club, we need your assistance

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08 Jul 2017 16:21:09
Shame - 12 players looked quite good. :-) )

Agree that it will be either Boufal or Tadic and with Tadic he goes missing. Boucle could become very good

Loftus-Cheek has been on my wish list for some time, can't see him going back to Chelsea because they have so many mid-fielders so if he enjoyed his football and we agreed a sensible figure as Bournemouth did with Ake it could work.

MP2 may have something special up his sleeve, and its usual to allow a manager a prodigal son!, whoever it is, needs to have goals in him, not necessarily an out and out striker but a creative offensive midfielder with 6-8 goals in him. Sort of a Steven Davis with goals in him.

Yoshida did well for us last year but he isn't going to displace VVD or Stephens as hardcore Central Defence with the excellent Soares on the Right, if Bertrand stays we have the rear guard on the Team list every game with Oriol Romeu locking down just in-front of them.

Pellagreno will then need to decide on who he prefers with the rest, hopefully Gabbiadini will be a starter and Redmond should push on. Just have a real good feeling about Sam Gallagher, we missed a Lambert/ Pelle player last year and hopefully he can make this his own.

Agree that we don't need many more players and the players that have to push for the right to win their place are:-

Going to be a very interesting year. bring it on!

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08 Jul 2017 09:16:50
Just spending vast amounts of money would do what.? The last three years we have finished 6th - 7th and 8th, our youth policy is the correct way. We have brilliant Senior Management, they are again part of our strength.
Buying players is a small part of the cost, the wages of Mercenaries and Pre-Madonna players would lead to an unsustainable financial position.

Most Saints fans appreciate what we have. we are never going to compete with Chelsea - Man United - Man City and Tottenham. If we can become a thorn in their side, win and draw a few games against these and beat Liverpool consistently, that's "All Good"

We should live within our means, carry on producing great youngsters, buy a few 18-21 year olds that can be developed and one or two players as needed, not end up with a raft of players warming the bench on inflated wages for what.?

Take Loftus-Cheek, not sure if he will come on a years loan, but hope that we have some sort of Option to Buy or that he doesn't have too many years on his contract and that he ends up with us as per Ryan Betrand and Oriol Romeu

What would be wrong with this selection for 2017-18.?
Early Team Selection

Fraser Forster
Cedric Soares - Jack Stephens - Virgil Van Dyke (Captain) Ryan Bertrand
Oriol Romeu
Ruben Lotus-Cheek - Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg - James Ward-Prowse
Sam Gallagher - Nathan Redmond
Manolo Gabbiadini


Alex McCarthy (Still needs a new Plan B too)
Maya Yoshida - Sam McQueen
Steven Davis - Dusan Tadic
Charlie Austin - Shane Long.

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14 May 2017 19:52:14
Boufal had a very rough start, didn't have a pre-season, played a couple of games and showed real promise but was not 100% fit . got injured again and so never had the opportunity to get a run in the team.
Its clear that he cannot play in the same team as Tadic, but you can't dismiss the fact that he has skill, is young and my belief is that next season, he will come into his own.
Why do supporters look for instant fixes, think back to Morgan Schniderlin. started off a bit slow but what a player, another season will see him elevate and integrate with our starting team.
Our midfield are a bit flat footed, we miss Wanyama - Alderwerald- Schniderlin not to mention Mane and Lallana. It will take a while to get something special. but I have every hope that next year we will be looking good.

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22 Aug 2017 19:29:20
Talking with a West Ham fan today who is very well connected.

He only gets 8 games a year (and always scores against Saints if on the pitch) that will be a No.

Should have kept Sam Gallagher in my opinion, he is a great guy and needs game time. Should have sold Shane Long and kept Sam.!

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22 Jul 2017 20:01:04
gtsaint - What a negative stand point, we still have some very good players and we have a Manager with Passion supported by a very professional Board.

If we end up 8th-12th, then that would be realistic, if we get out Team playing as a Team, we might hit 7th. What would you want then.? Sign a load of mercenaries . pay stupid wages . live beyond out means.?

We have had a brilliant last 7 years, the support from the Liebherr Family is the only reason for this, combined with strong Board management.

We are having it away, if you were to run Saints PLC. what would you sod then?

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22 Jul 2017 03:18:15
Virgil Van Dyke is an exceptional player, he signed a 5 or 6 year contract that made him the highest ever paid player at the club. He plays brilliantly ofr 1/ 2 a season and gets injured. Saints then carry on paying him. every week . work on him and get him back to fitness,
The "Tapping Up" was one thing. Liverpool come out and apologise, say that's and end of the matter, truth is the damage is done, his head is turned. let's not kid ourselves £70k a week with Saints, reputedly £200k a week if he goes to Liverpool. not a difficult incentive to leave. but . he signed a contract, if he broke both legs that badly and couldn't play guess what, we would pay. and pay. and pay, because we had a contract. He should Play. and Play. and Play, because he has a contract.
There is a bigger problem that needs addressing fully than just the VVD situation. Clubs, big and small Invest - Time - Energy and Money in bringing players on, if every time a player gets good, its fair game to strip them away from a team. just because the stomp their feet and protrude the bottom lip then the game is badly flawed.
The way that the media Hacks have just applied pressure, by hour, by day by month, all whipped up by Ex Liverpool players, managers and of course Liverpool fans is awful.
You may get our man, but to me if I was Katrina Liebherr, I would make a stand and make him play with the U18s for a whole year. then sell him, okay we might loose £10 million or so of cash, but it seems that Liverpool "Know the cost of Everything - And the Value of Nothing" as a club they should take a long hard look at themselves and think about the Game, not just their own egotistical stance.

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21 Jul 2017 19:59:13
Chris - I know exactly what you are saying, but when you look at averages there are Saints supporters that earn £15k and those that earn £100k plus.
Born in Sholing, Weston Park Boss School and a Saints fan for over 50 years.
There are no Matt LeTissiers anymore unfortunately, was looking at his goals on Twitter last night. what a man!

Being a Southampton supporter is great fun though, don't you think.? 1976 what memories Sholing Sports in the evening, pretty much a free bar. took some girl home (never did know her name) Last year League cup, we were robbed . Man Utd were so close to losing, but best bit. there with my mate Rob Easton, also Weston Park, played for Vospers and we started day one St Monica School.52 years later. he is still my best mate.

To all you Saints Fans. don't worry. we will be fine. good season coming your way very soon!

Pete Wesley



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09 Jul 2017 12:03:41
Looks like it was a Fake News - Twitter-Twatter, somebody had spent time pasting this together. Donald Trump will organise a hit squad I'm sure.!
So still hope.

Pete Wesley