Southampton Banter Archive August 11 2013

 

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11 Aug 2013 21:01:11
Is anyone else concerned about MP's apparent lack of ability to tighten up our defence during the pre season i'm sure once the games start to flow some more improvement will come but really shouldn't we have bedded in a cb partnership over the last few games? I grant you that this may have been hampered by Yoshida not coming back into the squad till late but if Hooiveldt is first option to play alongside Lovren then we are no better off than last season. An ex international defender as manager and I haven't seen one piece of coherent improvement over the pre season and I watched live streams of most pre season games.
With our pressing style of play we really do need a good cb pairing, I think its key to us winning games as I believe we will score goals but still look like being one of the leakiest defences. or is this just pre season jitters lol. Shame we didn't pick up Tiago Ilori as I think he and lovren could be awsome pairing.

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3-1 vs Besiktas, 0-0 vs Celta isnĀ“t bad defensively, is it?

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So one minute our attack is too bad but our defence is good, then the next game is a 4-3 and suddenly it's the other way around. Basically stop getting so wound up about pre-season games.

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What he said

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Here here!

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Not me. Our defense will be better this year than last. No it isn't perfect, but then it's still early days. If you added one more quality center-back such as Astori, and then a couple more years development for Shaw, Clyne, Chambers, and Targett, we'll have a very strong defense. Big Joss and Jose Fonte will potentially be replaced by Turnball and Stephens.

I have too say that after watching the game in person, I was very impressed by Lovren. His timing of his tackles was superb. I was also extremely impressed with Chambers. The one point I would say though, is that you could tell he was primarily a player that loves to go forward, rather than a left back. You could see his head drop a little once his man beat him to score (Soceidad's second I think).

As a fan there are certain questions I ask myself. Are we showing ambition? Is our defense stronger this year? Is our Midfield Stronger? Is our attack stronger? You'd have to answer all these questions with a 'yes'.

What about our forwards? I hear you ask. Don't forget that most of our side is about 12 years old. They are naturally going to get better each year as they learn, and gain experience. Jay-Rod will get better and better, Mayuka has shown touches of brilliance in the preseason, not to mention Isgrove who can hopefully make the breakthrough with his electric pace.

Each year you can see our Saints side getting stronger, with one or two quality purchases each season, great kids coming through our academy, and going on to becoming established premier league stars.

I'd have to argue that Southampton's future is very bright. The only thing is that we, the fans, are going to have to be a little bit patient - something that's sadly lacking these days.

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11 Aug 2013 19:11:14
Mayuka's goal against Besiktas wasn't exactly bad! Loyd Isgrove looks like he's playing well too, who knows maybe we don't need striker or winger? But one thing is for sure, that we need a CB, as we conceded 3 sloppy goals against Real Sociedad, we need someone like Toby Anderwield, he'd be perfect! COYR!

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11 Aug 2013 18:52:58
Anybody know the extent of Shaws injury? How long he'll be out for? Will he be able to feature against West Brom?

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Sounds like knee damage but from the releases about it I'd guess it's not going to be very long term damage. Probably will see him miss the first few games though.

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11 Aug 2013 14:07:04
just out of interest who do you guys want that we've been linked to, I want damaio and banega/tello

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If we were getting anyone who has been seriously linked, it would have to be banega. Still unsure on Damiao. Looks good on YouTube but then everyone can look good on there.
Would like an unselfish intelligent striker. basically a younger Rickie.

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It's like championship manager. (Who we've been linked to! Isco, Hernandez, coutinho, damio, Walcott, the ox.

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Just Tello as he can play upfront too as well as on the left or right and probably down the middle

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Lukaku, as he ripped us apart.
Very very unlikely long shot that we would get him though.

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11 Aug 2013 12:43:58
I'm still not convinced about our defense and keeper, we need a striker too but after winning 4-3, it shows we can score but still defending is a bit dodgy, I'd love us to get Toby Anderwield maybe Fraser Forster and someone like Tello as he does have 8.5m release clause?

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That defence had Jos in it so it clearly wasn't going to do too well.

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Tello would be class for us in my opinion

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The defence worked well yesterday with the beast and Morgan playing as a holding pair in front. We certainly had better control of the ball in the first half. And jack cork looked handy at right back and callum chambers worked his socks off. Very impressive performance by jos scoring for us as well.

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We were poor defensively, conceding 3 through poor defending or defensive errors isn't good enough. We need a CB as we will be punished in the league.

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Sorry but how is it a good thing that we gave three goals away at home? We surely don't want a Kevin Keegan era of you score 4 we score 5. We need to shut up shop and I don't think what we have is good enough. Jos and Fox are NOT good enough.

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Uhh we made 3 defensive errors which lead to 3 goals sounds more like that start of last season then working well

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Don't forget yoshida has played 90mins all pre-season and will be him and Lovren at CB so will take a little bit of time but its only pre-season don't wet yourselves and real sociadad are a champions league team as are shalke and besiktas

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11 Aug 2013 10:36:37
Lets sign this player! Kouyate I rate him highly and would play well next to Lovren our defense would be a brick wall

AFR94

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We were linked with him a month or so ago I think, haven't heard anything since though!

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11 Aug 2013 00:53:01
Just seen Schneiderlins goal today, Wanyama assist. Oh god they're going to be an awesome pairing. A midfield of IRON.

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Agreed but a defence made of blancmange. three very poor goals conceded and Lukey hopping down the tunnel. Still need a CB of high quality. Goals won't be too much of a problem, for the first half of the season at least, it's keeping them out that worries me.

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Well that's it then - we're going to win the league! Get real!

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Defence of butter though. Looked very iffy at the back, I know it was a friendly but we looked a shambles for all three goals they scored. Just can't play Jos, he is good in the air but his distribution is woeful.

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If we rotate these 2 with Cork, we'll always have a fresh DM pairing, we're gunna be solid next year!

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Lukey LOL!

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Could Jos fill our striker problem?

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