Southampton Banter Archive May 24 2015

24 May 2015 17:00:58
Disappointing to loose the final game, however the performance was good and 2-0 flattered city a lot, we had many chances to score and really makes the point of how good we could be if we invested a bit more money in our forward line! A fantastic season, let's all become Arsenal fans now and hope for that European place! COYR!!

24 May 2015 18:05:42
also as for our current loan signings I'd say we shouldn't sign Elia or Djuricic as neither have done enough to earn a permanent deal, signing Alderviereld would be a massive statement of intent however and he's made it clear he would join permanently, let's hope we can get him permanently!

24 May 2015 18:59:33
Frustrating end to a largely positive season. Five away defeats on the spin (and only one point from their last available twenty-one on the road) cost them a very attainable fifth.

Plenty of good stuff to build on, but some challenges ahead to address if they're going to keep moving forward.

Should be an interesting summer. It doesn't sound like Saints are planning to spend, yet they're likely to lose some key men and have other deficiencies that need fixing. The way they're talking, about promoting youngsters to fill out the squad, doesn't really fill me with much optimism.

(As I type this I'm watching Jack Stephens and Jordan Turnbull defending like rank amateurs in the play off final.)

Anyway. Liverpool? Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

24 May 2015 19:52:59
Argee with qwertyell
Was going to reply to earlyer post someone put about our up and coming youngster but didn't
A few teams have had a good number of talent to come through over the years but no teams academy does it every year and the names people on here keep mentioning ain't going to be no where near bale,walcott,ox,shaw still amazed how united payed so much for him because he was a young english left footer.ward prowse has gone backward Set pieces have been poor all season on the few times I see reed play I would perfer reed .
We ain't got players at this second in the academy that will improve wot we have .squad fillers to cover injury yeah.
And on elia I believe koeman has held back on using so much to keep market value down so it is possible for saints to buy .durijic would be another good addition with a pre season to settle into a team learn player. Movements and such.wanyama,schniederlin,ward prowse,davis.how many goals have they hit this season wanyama and schnied hve hit the net in open play ward prowse had to take a pen to score and wanyama and schniederlin are meant to be the defensive side of midfield

24 May 2015 20:10:12
And when you play with one striker its all about the players around to chip in,tadic was the one and luckly enough when he was injured we managed to get a energetic in form mane to carry us through.a win at Newcastle was down to elia's goals imagine the price for him then

24 May 2015 20:41:42
Elia's price was agreed months ago as part of the original loan contract.

Saints will probably sign him, I'd imagine, as the squad is quite weak in the wide forward positions and around £3m for an international winger is not the worst deal in the world.

I don't think there was ever an agreement in place to sign Djuricic permanently.

25 May 2015 01:02:20
I don't think either would be good signing and Koeman hasn't held back on using him to keep his value down, he hasn't used because he hasn't been good enough to break into our starting 11. I also completely disagree with the comments about the academy as I feel there are a lot of players in there that have the potential to get into the first team

Southampton87
There's quite a few u21's that are very good, you can't expect a Bale to come through every season, most clubs will get one of them every 10/15 years, some never.

Fans' expectations have become silly over the last few years. expecting us to bring through 3/4 a season and to be potential Gareth Bale's.

u21's won't instantly improve the side, they will start of as squad fillers, playing bit part roles, especially at our level now. We're not a League 1/Championship club with League 1/Championship players who bring through premiership level youngsters anymore.
If Bale/Ox/Walcott were 17/18 year olds just coming out of the academy now, they'd only be on the bench playing the odd game.
The youngsters will take a bit of blooding, but once they've built some first team experience, and developed a bit, they will improve the side.

@qwertyell I think Elia's is somewhere around 4 mil and Djuricic is somewhere around 9 mil to buy permanantly

I'd take both, Elia's been a bit hot and cold but most wingers are when they first move to the prem, especially a Jan transfer and he's not really had a decent run. Same with Djuricic, not had a decent run but has shown some potential in games he has played

25 May 2015 23:52:34
Saintysaintsaint
It just goes to prove wot i'm saying.

Bale was excellent in his first to seasons for us.

Walcott was excellent for us when he first came in the first squad proven when arsenal came and snapped him straight up

Ox was excellent every time he came on and because our coaches at the time knew he was that good tried to play him very little but that didn't work because arsenal snapped him up to

callum chambers arsenal snapped him up to

These type players apart for reed (maybe)just won't cut it

Wot our squad needs are these outstanding talents that we sell quickly

Not squad fillers

26 May 2015 00:05:21
Buy the way sunday league has some very good players but they don't claim to be professional and get paid good wages
England is probaly the only football nation in the world that picks talent for an acadamy buy if there left or right footed
Waine bridge was picked becuase they needed a left footed left back in the
Southampton acadamy not becuase he was good there were a number of better players on the field that day but they weren't left footed left back
And the fa wonder why they don't have a Ibrahimovic,zidane,ronaldo,messi,robben,ribery,pierlo,The list goes on.

26 May 2015 16:53:44
We have the same talent coming through, it's just that when Bale, Walcott, Ox were coming through it was in a team and league full of League 1 & Championship players, so could be given more chances. They looked better because they were playing with worse players. Now we have a team full of decent premier league players which means the youngsters don't stick out so much, doesn't mean they're any less talented. Bale, Walcott, Ox wouldn't stick out so much if they were 17/18 now, in this team

Shaw and Chambers were squad fillers, only given the opportunity because of injury/bad form, it's how academies should work

26 May 2015 20:24:52
Sorry but we do have talent but no where near wot ox, walcott,bale was and intruth these players have done nothing but improve time and time again
And not once did I watch any of them three and think they are out of there league even in international squad .
Walcott played for us in the prem before we got relegated did not play championship football and bale single handed nearly pull us back to the prem via play off but we lost as was expected.
Ox did come through league one but the was no one in the league that could touch him .
Can u now remember when we got relegated from prem arsenal brought walcott.
And first season in champ bale started to make a name .
Henrik larsson played most of his carrer in the scottish prem witch is below the level of quality of the English prem but he was unplayable with united and fergie praised him
So playing in the top flight makes players that are that good play better.
And keoman brought a lot of players through the academy to the main team with no problems
So I ask why have we not seen any of these top a acadamy prospects playing this season I believe keoman does not rate any of them.