Southampton Rumours Archive July 10 2012

10 Jul 2012 23:29:20
Buttner deal is back on :D 3rd party issue is resolved. inside info . what this space - chris

Rumour has it he's off to Borussia Dortmund

Well, I suppose it Dortmund are willing to pay the "third party"...

Na don't lie he's not going to dortmund because he would be 2nd choice as they already have Marcel Schmelzer

Hope so great player

Summers

His agent is still confident of a deal going ahead. He says that it's all sorted and it is now just up to Southampton to decide if they still want him.
(BBC)
Tom

Not inside info, it's on the back page of the echo

Dortmund isnt intrested. told you last night it has been resolved, and today the news has broke that it has. told you i have inside info ;) .
its to do with someone else whos owed money from the transfer, but not an agent.. saints have delt with it, so now we hope a medical can finally go ahead. - chris

Rumour has it the comment above is dumb?
are you stupid our offer was accepted, the third party wanted more money for him, Vitesse are sorting it out and hope to get it sorted out so that the players dreams of joining the premier league arnt dashed!! the third party isn't another team, its part of the club! and anyway if you believe that then you would believe the steven davies deal has fallen through! even though he has signed, thanks to the sun that is posting s**te
Spoon ;)

Well said spoon

Summers ;)

Chris, Saints haven't dealt with it. It was dealt with on Vitesse's end, they are splitting transfer funds, it's a marginal percentage though.

Saints still in same position and haven't had to do any work on this, we just need to conduct medical and decide if we still want Buttner same as before. From a Saints perspective the only difference is that it was delayed by a day, other than that it has been nothing to do with us and we haven't had to lift a finger.

JJ

May have been on back of echo today, but i announsed it last night before anything went to print. buttner deal wont happen today ! - chris

Thanks Summer :)
Tbh i do read the Sun to see what it says as somethings can be believed but today when it said that the Steven Davies deal was in threat of falling through i just laughed so hard i nearly cried, i mean he's SIGNED, HE SIGNED LAST FRIDAY! i just love the sun and its storys might send them a message saying look on the saints website you dumb idiots :L #
Spoon ;)

10 Jul 2012 15:36:37
Southampton are in advanced talks with Wolves over a deal worth £10m for Jarvis and Roger Johnson.

Johnson had a nightmare last season
Jollyv

That's was my comment btw^ sorry. Dh

Mini-saint

Could kill 2 birds with 1 stone. Although
Johnson had a poor last season in a poor side, a fresh start in an up and coming side could rejuvenate him into the good defender he has been in previous seasons. And if we could pinch Jarvis from under the noses of other sides we would have a player who can put in great crosses for our strikers. coyr Jimbo

Nattnieal clyne and wilfred zaha both said they would both rather go to reading-daily mail

I hope so, imo Johnson is quite a strong defender and has experience and Jarvis the best winger in the championship ;)

Can see this happening and just because he had one bad season doesn't mean hes awful

Partnered with Scot Dann at Birmingham, on both season they had very good defensive records

Not too sure on Johnson, but Jarvis would be perfect, and steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeveeeee would provide decent competition. Jarvis has pace, and a decent final ball, the only thing that De Ridder lacks. Don't know how much depth the rumour has to it, but would be great for us! - Sam R

Just imagine in we did get R.Johnson and S.Dann they were a solid pairing for birmingham

Javis would be a very good signing, we've been linked with him for a while now
Agreed go and grab the 2 of them Nigel

Chalkie

It wouldn't be a bad deal this, well, the Jarvis bit anyway.

Johnson, had a bit of a donkey season last year and I'm not sure he'll ever recover properly?

O.k just to clear this up, the comment that says:
I hope so, imo Johnson is quite a strong defender..... Is mine (mini-saint) and I sent that before I sent the message saying

That was my comment btw. Sorry ;)

Because I forgot to put my name after, only that comment popped up before the first comment to it doesn't make sense but hopefully it does now ;)

Why have Saints arranged a friendly with Wolves, pre-season??
Could be coincidence, or might be part of a larger deal?

Saint Martin

The only reason both Dann and Johnson looked so good at Brum was because Mcleish played 10 men behind the ball every game, any decent championship defender would look good in that system

Jarvis has destroyed all the top right backs over the last 3 seasons. Like all wingers can be a little inconsistant would be a great signing for you but johnson is no better than an average to decent championship player. He also has a ba attitude, if i were you i woul give him avery wide berth or do us a favour and take the plonker.

10 Jul 2012 11:54:52
Looks like the deal for buttner has fallen through. as i reported yesterday, fee was agreed, wages agreed, but now a 3rd party has made an aditional demand (not sure who at this stage)
vitesse wont met this demand. only time will tell. - chris

I don't think we will be signing Hooper. Didn't he say publicly that he wasn't interested last window. We don't want someone who doesn't want to come and will only come for money.

Lenny

This is seriously frustrating to see as a lifelong saints fan with davis now buttner has any one got a clue who the third party or is this a greedy agent coyr need a couple more signings soon

He's a young player so it wouldn't surprise me if it was his previous club Ajax looking for compensation or some sort of sell on fee.

I've seen Hooper play and I don't think he is EPL class, Southampton are a good young side who play for each other, Hooper can be a lazy so & so, maybe your manager sees more in him, I know he played for him before but that was Championship big difference from EPL. {Ed038's Note - Hooper is a quality player and should have been at the euro's IMO,the only negative side of his game is that off the ball he can be very lazy if he works a lot harder he could be a top class striker.}

Must admit I'm not convinced about Hooper making it big in EPL, but I do believe that Adkins would be the right guy to judge his potential and he does seem to be a big fan, so if we snap him up I would trust NA to get him performing. He certainly would not be allowed to be lazy off the ball with Saints!

Saint Martin

10 Jul 2012 10:17:47
Anyone know what's wrong with this buttner deal ?

Summers.

A third party has blocked the deal.

Lenny

I'm not completely sue but my interpretation was another club has come in to swoop him away at the last minute! I'm still not sure what is going on but Southampton want him they will keep bidding, he wants to go to saints so that's where he will choose to go!

Its not a 3rd club, as buttner would quite simply say no to them.. plus it says "vitesse wont meet the 3rd partys demand" . so its not another club at all - chris

Chris is right this is likely to be an agent demand. Saints can either walk away or try to negotiate the agent away - or alternatively check to see if agent has legal leg to stand on although my guess he has or Vitesse will have told him to go and do one,

^That's how I read it too. I presume his agent has asked for a cut/fee from the transfer fee, but seeing that the player has publicly requested a move to Saints (and agents, if the managers/chairmen of this world are to be believed, often play a major role in the production of these sorts of press releases) Vitesse are unwilling to sanction it. I have no proof or sources, just my interpretation of what has been said in the press.
mssaint

I hope it still goes through as he would be a great signing, can play left wing, left back and right back

Summers

10 Jul 2012 00:32:31
Saints have enquired about evertons seamus coleman

Hope so, would be a good signing. done very well when on loan at blackpool and decent when back at everton.

Hope not, we need pace, would prefer ince from blackpool
Nickb

To the above comment who would prefer ince ? do you know football, because last time i checked, ince was an attacking midfielder, whilst coleman is a defender. i wouldnt play ince as centre back - chris

Coleman is a right sided midfielder, not a defender.do ur research before u spout off.
Nickb

Coleman can actually play as a RM/RB so there's truth in both posts! could be a good option for saints and kill 2 birds with one stone!

Ive only ever known coleman to be a defender. - chris