Southampton Rumours Archive August 22 2012

22 Aug 2012 22:38:29
Ramirez deal is not definitely off. Bologna want a full payment, but Southampton want to do 3 payments. NC quoted "are way or no way" so if Ramirez comes to the south coast Bologna will have to compromise.
SaintsJay

Ramirez deal still on !!

Only if Bolonga get a loan and NC goes back on his word about "our way or no way".

Club has moved on to 'another target". It's a shambles but quite frankly it has been for most of the transfer window.

Be very surprised if Ramirez signed now. VERY surprisedx it's dead. Move on. Next!

There are still minor details to sort out, but they are minor. If bologna can sort them out fairly quickly which I believe they can, there is no reason why the deal should not be done. Fee has been agreed, personal terms agreed, Payment plan pretty much agreed and the player wants to join us so there is not major reason why he won't! :)

Mini-Saint

Nothing has changed really in the Ramirez transfer. Just lots of echoing of the same story everywhere relating to the agent remarks seen in the Italian website, while the media looks for a headline.
Its frustrating for us fans, but all that seems to have happened is that Ramirez agent has been shouting his mouth off again. Bear in mind that the story doesn't really make sense as it is not Cortese doing the negotiations but a separate representative as has been confirmed by the Bolgna president, so why would the agent have been given this remark by our Chairman??
No news from Bologna to that effect and I'd be surprised if Cortese has shut the door on the deal. He is a grade A World Class player and there aren't many of those about.
I've seen rumours in the Liverpool echo about them going in with an offer, but would be very surprised if there is enough substance in it to knock us out of poll position... although they might be having a little panic about their ability to score goals after their shambles last weekend!

My opinion is there putting every1 off two wrap it up we do business in the shadows so to speak.they probly get gastons agent to say that comment bout deal off to wrap it up that my opinion bout it anyway

Saints still hoping for Ramirez deal

Its over . it wont happen, and im sure southampton would have agreed to paying all up front as we have the money to do it.. and we would have done everything to sign such a big name - chris

I agree, shambles, all scouting/transfer activity shouldve been done 2mths ago, last season we lost out on several players inc Phillips as cortese wouldn't pay wycombe 2.5m so went to blackpool, the so called centre backs we were in for, Collins/Davies/Johnson and tunisian guy all Fell away just like buttner/ramirez/michu. Guess we are not that an attractive proposition like so many fans think we are, either that or cortese too stubborn to pay an extra pound.

So bored of this whole saga now, time to move on and forget about it. Onwards and upwards COYR

So deal could still go ahead? Am a bit confused!

The "I agree, shambles,..." comment.
I think that is quite a harsh appraisal and we do not know the finer points of many of the deals to know why they didn't happen or if there were ever really on the table.
Although in hindsight, I am quite glad that many of them didn't. Collins was rubbish for West Ham for instance and Buttner would have been a mistake if he had come here, whatever he and his agent trumpeted in the press.
And as for Michu, definitely a great player. But not the type of player we need. We are crying out for pace and that is what NC and our scouts are trying to get us
I will be gutted if we don't get Ramirez because I am so excited to see such an amazing player play... for Saints!! But I have our scouts and NC to thank for that queasy excitement and nervousness. We want the best players... and if they are easy to get, they probably aren't the right players for us.
Whatever the score we have a budget, and if we pay all the money of our budget up front in this year just to get Ramirez, we certainly won't have the cash available to Phillips, C Davies or whoever else may be on the cards.
NC is trying to get us the best on the best terms possible and I am glad he is not a man to compromise and I am sure he will be proved right

Huey

22 Aug 2012 16:08:15
You lot need to stop believing the rumours about Ramirez, he will sign by Friday night

So you still think the deal will go ahead even tho his agent said that its off?

Cannot be put better, all of this is just speculation, until the agent came out and said its over....

Enough people have reported it as off, I think maybe we should just let it go, he only seemed interested in the money anyway

JustASaint

Is this the same agent that said the deal was done and dusted a week ago?

We ever going sign anyone need to concentrate on cb and lb getting frustrating

His Agent said its off but remember when Gaston said himself he was a southampton player just wait and see

I'll say it again Ramirez will sign Friday

Isn't saying he will sign by Friday also kind of, well a rumour?

Well this is a rumour website? Isn't it? Don't remember it being called Southamptonfacts.com?

Ha nice ^

Yes - but Buttner said the same didn't he and he signed for Man U.

22 Aug 2012 13:13:56
Alot of movement around St Marys today, Photo shoot has been booked for 16:00 today - not sure what for??

I hope this is for Ramirez or new cb but most likely for jack cork who was not in the photoshoot

You're not sure why there would be a photoshoot...? (not that I actually believe you) Probably just a few pics of the new dugouts down St Marus or something...

Profile Photo's for Saints website. Some are done, I'm guessing the rest do their's then. {Ed003's Note - or images for a well known satelite channel to use this year}

I heard this, i was also at the stadium yesterday collecting my ticket for the weekend and there seemed alot of activity going on; cars with blacked out windows and people looking busy. could be nothing but hints at something promising.
Jas93

Just reported on SSN that the Ramirez deal has collapsed, and that SFC are moving on to other targets

Deal is off.

No Ramirez.....deal off! Saints looking at other targets.source skysports

Talks between Southampton and Bologna have ended. Ramirez will be staying in Italy.
teejaysaint

Most likely player profiles, the well known broadcaster ed mentioned done there shoot last week.

Agent claims that Ramirez deal is off because of Bologna's finances, so I'm doubtful it'll be him!

Sky sports just reported Ramierez deal gone

Since ramirez is off I'm hoping the photoshoot is for the fifa game, be great to get authentic saint faces at last

Arh ED003 where have you been hiding

Chalkie {Ed003's Note - School holidays Chalkie, camping and days out etc... }

Ed003 good to have you back on
Don't worry only another 2 weeks and the kids are back at school
got any news mate
Chalkie {Ed003's Note - Only the Phillips one mate,if Saints pay enough they will get him,no smoke and mirrors on that deal,quite simple really}

22 Aug 2012 09:55:44
Gaston Ramirez move:
Simon Peace on Twitter-
"#SaintsFC & Bologna have agreed a fee & payment plan for Ramirez. The hold up is because the Rossoblù are trying to sort out their finances." and "#SaintsFC have also sorted out agreement with Ramirez's former club Penarol for their 30%. Hold up is Bologna messing around with finances.

Peter White on Twitter-
"Saints deal for Ramirez nearly done Fee agreed but there is still a problem because cash strapped Bologna want all of fee. More.. #saintsfc" "Bologna trying to secure loan and pay back as Saints pay them. NC not happy and set to give ultimatum, agree now or deal off! #saintsfc" "Decision Day"


Both Journalists that are also Southampton fans

The above is utterly correct. Think he will sign soon. If they are desperate enough to consider a loan hen they can't afford to reject our 12million... bottom line is he is ours now. Unless Italian pride gets in the way.

The agent of Bologna forward Gaston Ramirez claims transfer talks with Southampton have ended and that it is unlikely his client will now be heading for England, with links to Tottenham and Liverpool played down. as per Sky Sports 22nd August

Spot on, to accept the offer and be looking for a loan to cover the repayments as well as offering him on loan as a bck up if the deal collapses hints that they need the money and know the ramirez wants to leave. We all know there is no point having a footballer sat around not wanting to play for you.