Southampton Rumours Archive June 23 2013

23 Jun 2013 22:35:22
Southamptons new kit release date has been pushed back due to concerns from club officials about the colour of the strip. Some officials think that not bringing back the proper stripes will seriously damage shirt sales and profit margins while others want to change the kit to pure red permanently. The issue is likely to drag on for a while so the new kit may actually come out after some of our pre-season games have been played in last seasons kits.

I read somewhere that the kit will be released just before the last pre season friendly.

I asked in saints shop in west quay when new shirts were being launched. They replied "first week in July". Ie with tens of thousands of shirts already made and waiting to be dispatched across the world, unlikely to still be at a stage where they haven't even agreed on the basic design.

Utter tosh, it is never going to happen. A club with a contract with adidas is not going to be wearing a kit from umbro. Like they will change it because the saintsweb don't like all red.

Impossible to play in an umbro kit when are contractually obliged to play in Adidas kit.

Absolute nonsense.

These things are planned months in advance, not last minute.

No chance of wearing old Umbro kits when we are sponsored by Adidas!

Also your use of financial jargon is bizarre. "seriously damage shirt sales and profit margins". no need to spout that rubbish just to try and make your post seem high and mighty.

Plans can be changed very late sometimes and it appears as though the Leibherr's or someone trying to act on their behalf is concerned about the effects of changing the kit away from the traditional red and white on sales of merchandise and match tickets. They are pointing out the potential damage to the business side of Southampton doing something like this might have.

Yes it is rare for something like this to happen due to the costs of all the shirts already made up and due to the fact they want to plan in advance but the intervention is very real this time. It may be a case of this kit slips through and a ruling is put in place that we have to return to stripes for the following season but this is something which could push back the release date of this kit until the problems are sorted. {Ed003's Note - speaking to someone from Adidas before and it's true you are going back to stripes,white and orange apparently, strange I'd have gone for tangerine.}

So we currently have no agreed upon design, no official shirt sponsor (previous Lotus rumour) and we will have to release a a shirt before pre season friendlies.
We will have our shirt before pre season, this is a non-rumour

Definitely not going back to stripes ed. Kit will be the same design as Ajax, just reversed colours {Ed001's Note - I think ed003 was joking, the orange and tangerine bit should have given it away!}

Like the last Kit, it will be released at the 11th Hour.

Basically it means that people rush out and buy it in time for the begining of the season regardless of how they feel about it.

Last seasons effort was a shocker in my opinion. Everyone I spoke to though so too. However they soon defended it when they where wearing it.

I have heard that it will be a sort of red gingham to emphasise our links to the textile industry

We won't be playing with the same template as Ajax. Its predominately red with some white on the sleeves. Same template as Bristol City's hew home kit. The badge will be gold as well.

Lenny

Gingham to emphasise our links to the Textile industry?! Maybe we should wear blue to emphasise our links to the sea. it's all done and dusted, it's on the way to the stores, the publicity shots have been done - the best way to maximise impact is to keep us guessing

There is a problem with the kit and it the sponsor not the choice of colour. The home kit is red with white panels, think Ajax or arsenal.
The problem is app3 have chosen to not match the clubs valuation. Bet335 have come in with the best offer but it's not the right choice for a family club. We had a third sponsor but if feel through not sure why?
M13

Aap3 are in year 3 of a 3 year sponsorship deal. Although it was in the original sponsorship agreement they didn't really budget for promotion and the fee has gone up - and they can't really afford it. Saints also wanted a bigger sponsor paying more money and aap3 wanted out so Saints were looking for a new sponsor. But so far they have failed to find one. I think they came close but it fell through - rumours it was Lotus! Most of the new sponsorship team have now left the club.

23 Jun 2013 16:56:18
Wanayama has supposedly rejected saints as the wages weren't high enough and he prefers a move to Cardiff not sure how true this is could someone shed any light on this

Amazing how people would know this given that if a meeting took place then obviously would have been private & personal deals are hardly rejected or accepted within one meeting. Also, to those that thinks he's going to cardiff or stoke then its probably wise to let your club know to at least put an acceptable bid in first!

I really think there is more than meets the eye on this. If it all broke down and he was planning on going off to speak to a big, big club fair enough but a newly promoted one?! Interesting, a lot of blind speculating about, wouldn't surprise me if saints still ended up with him.

Ye because Cardiff can afford his wages if we cant

If we got wanyama, 4-3-3?


Boruc

Ckyne lovren yoshida shaw

Schneiderlin cork wanyama

Ramirez lambert/jay lallana

Interesting idea? Not enough goals in there though, unless Gaston suddenly hits top form and Lallana steered clear of injury. Then it may work! COYS

^ we'd play the same as last season, just rotating wanyama/nainggolan cork and spider

I thought wanyama was only interested in CL football? Is he getting confused by the championship if he's joining Cardiff? I like the fact we are being a little respectful of money, I'd rather earn success (which we will) than buy it!

23 Jun 2013 00:09:11
Wanyama in southampton today. A friend has spotted him in new forest hotel. Also backed up by an inside club contact that says he is close to agreeing terms.

Hopefully the Rhinefield House hotel, the drive there should be enough to seal the deal (if you're coming from the motorway).

Normally use the lime house hotel, but everyone is saying its fallen thru, without putting a source up. please post this as you don't post anything of mine on here.

Wanyama is on holiday, not due back till 10th July, also he has stated he does not want to come to Southampton as he wants Champions League football keep taking the drugs, yo all thought Hooper was in the bag in January, but could not afford the fee.

Southampton offered Wanyama the same wages he is on at Celtic, he said no to Southampton as it stands and is now talking to Cardiff City. pay the money and stop being cheap.

Pay the money! lol. Just because we have rich owners the players and agents think they can demand whatever they want. I hope Cortese told them both where to stick it!

There is no way someones value ould increase but not their wages. This rumour is rubbish & saints & nc will pay the right money to the right player which will be agreeable to all. Most people either don't know or easily forget that our chairman is a top banker & therefore is not a mug when it comes to money or deals.

You lot in Scotland believe everything you hear, don't you? Strange that one post says he has to have CL football and the other says he wants to sign for Cardiff (who have agreed nothing with Celtic. ) Some confusion between Champions League and Championship is there?

So, Saints wouldn't "pay the money" yet one of their other targets for the same position is reporting he was offered a VERY attractive deal from Saints. Could be that Saints don't rate Wanyama that much-or could be you are being fed rubbish.

By the way, how much will Hooper sell for now-about £5m to Reading? Really good bit of business your club did with him LOL.

Sorry but I can't see Hooper being the answer, his style of play being an old fashioned centre forward. The way Poch wants us to play quick high up the pitch football will not suit him. Player with good pace and a brain and finishing skills for me. I think we must look at Spain or Italy for a value for money player, all our home bred players are vastly over priced. Still believe Jay will be twice the player this season as long as we have Gaston playing to his full potential. A decent very pacy winger would be my choice, to me still the best way to create chances i. e dead ball line, cross, Rickie (or similar). GOAL! or at least making the keeper make a save. Most defenders hate defending a ball that comes across and behind them. I know that Luke can do it but it leaves us exposed if the move breaks down. A quality left sided pacy central defender would help that situation massively. So in a nutshell spend 30 - 40 million on three top class players a Winger who can play on both sides, Central Defender who is quick on the ground and a centre forward who is good in the air and reads the game well. Simples!

Personally I think the whole old fashioned centre forward thing is a load of rubbish, why exactly is it a bad anyway because if you look at most clubs they have a big old fasioned centre forward, lambo benteke lukaku
crouch ba sturridge and even carroll had a pretty good season last year (with the exeption of carroll) they play the same sort of game and all score golas in the prem

st stuie

Point taken but all I meant was that Hooper is more suited to the long ball hoof up field and relying on mistakes being made by rather poor quality defenders in the SPL. Players like Sturridge and Lukaku are blessed with good pace and good control on the ground. Hooper to me would always be 2nd best and would not suit our style.

Lukaku? Controll? His second touch is a tackle! He is however so powerfull and quick he rarely needs a second touch wich is quite exceptional especially In the prem