Southampton Rumours Archive May 26 2014

 

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26 May 2014 17:38:11
Sounds like Pochettino has sold out. I get it people come and people go but once again it's the supporters who get it from a great hight. I for one don't want any meaningless prosaic statements from him about us.

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I don't think he has "sold out". I think it's more a case of he has been told to expect a few players to leave saints this season and not a lot of money to spend. He probably thinks what's the point in staying and not being given the tools to finish a job that he started.

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Looks like mopo is off then. shame really, I think he will struggle at spurs. I think we know lalana and haw will go, but I just hope we stay away from the merry go round mangers like mackay, clark etc. someone different, maybe dave clement he has done his rounds hopefully learnt from some good managers, but probably end up with benitez. god help us if its lennon!

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Reported on bbc sport that he's in advanced talks

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In retrospect I think Poch decided that he was going to leave when Cortese went, he stayed for the benefit of the players. he will not do so well at Spurs, the players that really shone at Saints were in place when he arrived.

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How about frank de boaer. he could do a good job for us for a year 8th or 9th will be good then Tottenham can come in and steal him aswell. poxy Tottenham all started when they took martin chivers and they have not looked back. good god I am old!

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He is going because he has been going all along. He was never going to get the assurances he wanted with regards to not selling our prized assets.
It has been said by myself and others that KL and the hockey boss do not know about our club but only about making money.
Therefore to sell our best assets, buy cheaper options, grow more young talent to sell further along the line. Etc etc
That to them is business not caring about what us fans want.
If Miss Leibherr is not careful though she just might get us relegated and then where would this £140m prime business be?

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He's been in talks for ages according to the media. Until, like all the other speculation, something is firmed up and definite i'm not going to get too concerned.

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Maybe bring a bit optimistic but ehh don't we put in a cheeky offer for Mancini?! Better than de matteo. (Who I think we will end up with if I'm honest. )

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26 May 2014 19:48:40
Also why the hell did Les Reed BS us?

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Well if this happens I hope there placement plays a similar game
because its going to be hard to go back to what we were watching before his time and adkins era

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He hasn't gone yet! and Les Reed didn't BS us obviously at the time there had been no bids/approaches but there has now

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Not convinced until it's signed. I have heard spurs have been banging on the door for months and poch hasn't been keen. However his only options are spurs or saints. I know I am bias but I would stick with saints

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26 May 2014 23:20:10
Why does the blame move to the board? We don't as of yet know if he will leave and if so the reason behind it. Poch has done well and yes I hope he stays but Adkins did well and I'm sure even with shaw and Lallana moving on with correct money reinvested and a decent manager in charge - and there are a few out there - then we can continue to progress - though slower then we would hope - without putting the business at risk, which surely is the overall goal.

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Have I missed something that has been said? as far I am concerned MoPo is using his position to get what funds and himself a better deal.

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27 May 2014 08:29:21
clutching at straws, he's gone

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27 May 2014 08:30:56
It will soon be very much Frau Liebherr and Wreck it Ralph's fault. We are already rudderless soon we will be mangerless then we will become playerless. Should have seen it coming two weeks ago when they pi$$ed off Adidas.

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Hi ED so should mp be off soon? Have his talks with spurs been positive, could we get de boer as a replacement? Thanks ED

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{Ed005's Note - Sorry mate, I don't know. I will have to ask another Ed who will know.}

Ok let me know ED

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{Ed005's Note - He is not going to help this page.}

Oh ok thanks. When should mp future he sorted? We need to keep him or get yakin in and keep our players and sign players who are decent

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{Ed005's Note - Sorry mate but I can't help at all.}

What's up with Ed?

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27 May 2014 22:19:13
Eds dead baby, Eds dead.

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26 May 2014 16:14:23
Saintsmiff

How is Wanyama included in your flops list?

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Do you think wanyama is good value for money? The guy has potential. But to me he isn't a £12m player. I think we payed top end for him tbh

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26 May 2014 16:11:44
If poch does leave surely the club has a replacement lined up. Anyone one no any targets

Tonythesaint

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Neil Lennon is on his way to us. I know it will disappoint most, but I'm hearing a 2 yr contract. What do you guys think?

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Possibly Moyes. he has a decent record, Manchester United was never going to be the utopia that he hoped for and could be a way back for him in the Prem at a realistic level.

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Neil Lennon think? Relegation fight at best!!

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I really don't want moyes. He was shown up after he left Everton as an average manager there.

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Moyes is a safer bet, but is he likely to deliver the style of football we love? I don't want us ending up like West Ham. i. e. it doesn't matter how we play as long as we stay up. Lennon could surprise us all. I think we will lose Adam & Luke but provided we can hang on to Lovren & Morgan and add 2 or 3 good quality signings I feel we will consolidate in the top 10.

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26 May 2014 19:53:25
i think tim sherwood would do a good job
he s young and ambitious
do not want moyes or lennon
forestsaint

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Virgil Van Dijk and Fraser Forster to be Lennon's first signings perhaps?

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26 May 2014 23:23:43
How about dyche ( unsure on spelling!) from burnley, plays high tempo footy with English lads and gets the best out of players both with burnley and before at watford. If not then Zola?

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26 May 2014 23:02:08
I really don't know about Lennon. Has managed in a two team league with only one team in it. Can't see him attracting any decent players.

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Tim sherwood? Former scate with feck all managerial experience. Why on earth wound we want that knob

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27 May 2014 10:33:56
would be bettwer than lennon
forestsaint

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26 May 2014 07:15:30
Media turned yet again. Gone from poch taking over spuds, to turning them down, now apparently levy will decide which one of DeBoar and Poch will be the new manager.

I am very worried now. For me it is looking increasingly likely. Why wait until the end of the season to discuss a new contract - I don't buy the excuses. Why hasn't he signed a new deal already? Actually annoyed now because even if he stays it feels like he'll look to jump ship if a big club comes in. Poch or the club could have denied a Spud approach or that he'd be allowed to leave if it wasn't true. I'm especially annoyed because we're talking about Spuds ffs - not a top club. Having said that, if the club are posturing to sell players, I can understand his lack of commitment, within reason.

If you read between the lines of Ralf Krueger's and Les Reed's statements in the last few months, you'll see they never said they won't sell. Not looking to sell doesn't mean they won't.

Pretty sick of looking for good news everyday and finding nothing but pro plastic club crap.

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26 May 2014 11:05:57
Agree 100% it's going to be another crappy dispiriting week for all Saints. Even yesterday's T20 game and the cricket season in general can't alleviate this summers growing sense if doom.

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Poch will only sign if board backs him by guaranteeing not to sell any of our first team players, assurances at the moment the club cant/wont meet

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St tony, I feel for you if everyday when you open the paper, you believe what's written. Your life must be like a rollercoaster haha

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I don't believe it, saintsmiff. I gather all the info I can and try to read between the lines with logic. I think he's a goner. I am livid. I hate spuds too. 2nd rate Plastic wannabes. If a manager is leaving for a club like spuds that are not really good contenders for top 4, have an awful primadonna dressing room, an person director of football and a trigger happy chairman, then the board really are not prepared to push hard for progression. I truly hope I'm wrong.

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With what you said is enough for me to believe he isn't going.
I can't see KL intentions if she let's poch go and a few top players.
Why does she watch the games?
Appoint a board with well respected sports people?
Continue to suggest they want to keep the squad together?
It just wouldn't make sense. But let's say poch leaves, I'm sure she will attract another good manager given our squad. Players may think twice about leaving if she managed to get a top manager in. We are in a position not many clubs are in. The board know it, poch knows it, the players know it and do do the fans. The only people I believe don't know it is the media. So basically I'm saying have faith. Whatever happens we are a premier league club in an excellent position. Even if poch wants out ( I doubt it )
If somebody can give me a good reason why billionaire owner KL would sell our top assets from her business, sat each week in front of 30,000 fans, I'm all ears

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The rate at which the media changes it's mind is ridiculous time to start ignoring it until something official is released I think

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Sorry saintsmiff, Poch is def going to Spurs. He has just been waiting for Levy to make his move. Poch wanted to leave same time as cortese, but it was Cortese who persuaded him to stay - at least until the end of the season. But really, he has been on the lookout for a move since then.

plus, Spurs are a bigger club, have a better squad, more money to improve and will match his ambition.

I, have no doubt that the Saints board matched or exceeded whatever spurs are offering him. but ultimately it doesn't matter because Poch has wanted to leave for months. The best we can say is that he didn't leave us mid-season. That was actually a decent thing to do.

I don't know if the board has anyone else yet. i, have a feeling they will have done. Remember, the whole club is set up so that the manager is simply a dept head - he leaves, but the wheels stay on. Another guy comes in.

We should also expect Lallana and Shaw to go. but that's hardly a secret. There will be two or three others moving on too. ones we would rather didn't leave unfortunately.

BUT funds will be made available to the new manager to replace departing players. Decent funds too. And the aims of the club and style of play - the Southampton way - will continue on much the same.

whilst all these departures might zap morale, in actual reality I don't think it will atop us finishing mid-table again next year.

which, whether we like it or not, is our sustainable level as a club.

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I agree, although I still remain optimistic that we can keep hold of our players. If poch wants to leave for the fact cortese left, then he is pretty stupid. He was well known for working with youngsters b4 coming to saints, so he is in the best place. I would like to see him train the likes of lamela and adebayor the way he works saints stars. Learning to cope with the egos of spurs will test his managerial qualities. Will he be given time to put his stamp on spurs? I don't think so

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Vectis - exactly what I said in a previous post about the players going. I'm afraid KL sees shaw and lallana as balancing the books and although I understand poch is not altogether that interested in spurs for obvious reasons him leaving in the next 12 months I inevitable. I was fortunate to speak to a youth player who said rumours are rife and NC will be part of a group to purchase villa and will take poch there. Just a rumour but given his interview.

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26 May 2014 18:43:45
If she sold all seven top players shed pull in well over 100 million does that answer your question???

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26 May 2014 21:26:57
why would Cortese go to Villa, Southampton was his baby if he was going to go to the trouble of putting a bid together to buy a club why not us. Liebherr would probably sell, its just a question of price.

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No montecristo saint. Yes she could sell 7 players and take in £100m, but at the huge risk of relegation with potential losses of around £100m in tv revenue etc. not the best decision for a successful business woman.

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NC said in an interview he would, and I quote, " never" comeback. I'm pretty sure "never" covers any time soon.

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Saintsmiff what you said makes perfect sense but the new regime have convinced and advised her to make 60-80 million in the summer and replace with our famous youth system. Not what we want to hear but this is going to happen.

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26 May 2014 06:14:29
Just to clear up one rumour. Neil Taylor is definitely not coming to Saints from Swansea. This info came from him.

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We're have to get a better left back if shaw leaves anyway

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