Southampton Rumours Archive August 27 2012

27 Aug 2012 21:39:36
im a saints fan and live in shrewsbury. in one of the 'small' papers up here there is a 'rumour' and i say rumour that mr adkins has been send scouts to watch jon taylor. an exciting prospect i must say as hes only 19 and a very pacey winger. seen him play a few times, very promising. maybe one for the future? who knows?

What paper ? i live local and would like to get a copy and see

His source is most probably FIFA 12 UT

He is quality on fifa 5 star skill 90 pace

Im not sure what the paper was called mate, sorry. and if you want to say things like 'fifa 12' and be childish then thats up to you but i know what i read. as i said it was not a 'big' paper, so it may not be reliable

27 Aug 2012 12:21:24
Gaston Ramirez says he wont be going to Southampton, because they can't meet his wage demands he said either they want me or they don't! we are worlds apart at the moment but to be honest I am not really to bothered. Also Danny webber will be joining the club, Atkinson see's him as a replacement for lambert who is talking to Blackburn a deal for 1.8 million is said to be almost done!

1. Ramirez is joining
2. Wages already sorted
3. Danny webber?!?!?!
4.Adkins!
5. Lambert is not going anywhere. He's waited all his life to play in gut eprem, why would he leave after 2-3 games!
6. £1.8m are you serious!!

Tis post is utter rubbish

Mini-Saint

This is clearly a wind up post!

Your obviously talking a load of rubbish.YOU don't even know the name of the Super SAINTS manager. You probably support the blue kit down the road!!!

Ha ha ha ha, gotta love these pompey fans. At least with their club in the darkest depths of the worst toilet in England, they still have a sense of humour !!

Wish they had a football team to support in Pompey then we would not have their persons posting such rubbish!
If you want to post a wind-up, you could always make it factually accurate, and then there is a slim chance someone will believe it.
Back to school soon, little Richard!

Let the skates have him i think they need him more than we do lol they are getting so desperate that soon there going to offer contracts to there fans to play for them lol. next stop league 2 for the skates

Whisper's in Norwich Lambert i on his way

I hear rumors that rickie lambert is set to play for southampton.. sorry, but he will also finish his carrer with the saints COYS

You never know, Rickie Lambert might finish off at Portsmouth playing in the Sunday morning leagues when he reaches 60.

Even at the age of 60 rickie lambert would be portsmouths best player

Clearly a blue loon from down the road. Need to get a life

The skates have disagreed with every comment lol it's good to see that they have a good sense of humour still after all what's happening to them lol

Worked with a Portsmouth supporter in San Diego a few years back, nice guy, I just hope he hasn't committed hari kari because of his club going down the toilet
Gers/Southampton fan

" 1. Ramirez is joining
2. Wages already sorted
3. Danny webber?!?!?!
4.Adkins!
5. Lambert is not going anywhere. He's waited all his life to play in gut eprem, why would he leave after 2-3 games!
6. £1.8m are you serious!

Tis post is utter rubbish

Mini-Saint " ...


7. WHO IS ATKINSON ?!?!

AC

Rowan Atkinson is a top notch comedy performer.

Rowan atkinson is the bookies favourite to be portsmouths next manager

I heard the bookies favourite for the Pompey job was Paul Chuckle...

You heard it here first

27 Aug 2012 01:00:09
Reporter in Italy, believes Gaston Ramirez transfer to Saints is nearing completion.

Hold up has been resolved with final deal as follows:

Saints will buy 70% of Bologna for 14 million Euros, leaving 30% to Penarol and player's agent. I.e. Saints will now go into co-ownership with Penarol, unlike the previous agreement.

Agent is in Southampton finalising arrangements. Ramirez to fly out tomorrow. Expect it to take between 2-3 days for work permit and medical tests, so Wednesday-Thursday earliest.

JJ

Probably Tuesday-wednesday, subject to medical. In regards to work permits he has already played in Italy so that will help speed that up somewhat.

Premier league rules don't allow third party ownership it's 100% or nothing .... So either your source is wrong or you made this up!

Is cortese actualy going to sign any quality players if any or is he just happy to pick up the championship parachute money next season, were see, as for ramirez he wont be signing they want 20m for him

This will not happen this way as this is the whole tevez saga and I believe the fa changed the rules So English clubs could no longer buy in to co-ownership I'm not 100% sure but I thought that's what they done wait and see I spose!

No, i think youve been mistaken, we will pay 70% of the fee offered to bologna, which works out at 9.8m of the 14m, the rest being future installments and we'll still buy the other 30% which has been undisclosed so far to media

I didn't think that the co-ownership was allowed in England. That was what the trouble with Mascherano and Tevez was a few years ago, although they were part-owned by an agency not a club, I don't think this would be allowed.

I thought players within the Eurozone don't need work permits to move within it.

Lenny

I thought that the FA do not allow co-ownership?

I was just about to post teh same JJ, i just hope this time we get him.
i think after he thretened to go on strike it set some alarm bells off at bologna, but NA has promiced some signings this week - chris

As far as I am aware, you can't do co-ownership with a club in England, it only happens in Brazil, Italy and a few other countries. Not entirely sure on the rules surrounding this but I couldn't see NC wanting to co-own him either.

Would be great to see him sign soon though, along with Boilesen.

The English FA does not allow teams to co-own players unlike in Italy

If this is true have u got a link to a site?

Are english clubs allowed to co-own? eds? {Ed052's Note - No, I dont believe so}

Let's not be so ignorant on this one.... We can try to sign as many players as we like, but there's a limit to what we will pay and let's be honest the players we could attract.
If Arsenal are struggling to hold onto players like RVP, Song, Nasri, Fabregas with Wengers reputation and club history, some of us need to get realistic fast.
Stussy

There's no way you can know all the details of this agreement. 14m euro's isn't enough anyway. Bologna want 20m. I think this deal will still go through but please stop making up rubbish.

To the above comment about the rules,. anderson was owned by man utd, and 20% gremio.
ramieres at chelsea is owned by chelsea and Cruzeiro.
other players who have had co-ownerships in premiership are, jo , carlos tevez, Javier Mascherano.
they can transfer to and english team, then its down to the english team to sort out what they do from there with the other club. so please go back to signing freebes please Mr skate.
Mark {Ed052's Note - If it is possible - then it is very complicated, causes toruble and is very unlikely}

No it's nt co ownership it's a 30% sell on clause so when we sell ramirez penrol gets 30%.

"Premier League rules don't allow third party ownership".

There are ways round it, it's not black and white. For example giving Penarol 30% sell on fee is essentially the same as third party ownership - it's purely semantics you are talking about.

Deal is close to being done. Reputable Italian reporter who solely deals in the transfer market is the source (it's very well known and widespread now).

Not going to lie - 90% of the time there is a large amount of doubt in any rumours I replicate on here. In this case it's very much a done deal, confident of that.

JJ

Clearly Southampton dont have as much money as you keep saying you have!! could your sugar daddy have just realised how much money they have to flush down the drain and wants out.

He'll sign this week as will several others. Relax

Sorry for my above comment about the rules. i was wrong as i didnt realise it changed from the carols tevez problem. but i do now know that we wont be going into co-ownership, saints have actually also agreed a deal with penarol, saints will pay them 30% of a future sale of ramirez.

We will have full ownership, it's just we are paying off Bologna in full up front (70%) and Penerol (30%) in installments

Lenny, within the EU you have the right to freely move between nations to find work. However someone who gets a work permit from another country into the EU does not have the right to work in any other country in the EU unless they gain a permit there as well.

I think rather than co/ownership it is a % of 'sell on' agreement.. It is very much allowed that a former club would have an agreement that they get a cut of a future deal, it is very common. I think we have a sell on clause for the Ox etc. {Ed052's Note - Just so everyone knows. A sell on clause and shared ownership are hugely different things. Sell on clauses are almost in every deal, but co/ownership is not part of the Ramirez deal}

NO co-ownership. Penarol will get their 30% as a sell on clause.

Js

....and meant to add. He does need a work permit because he's no European.

I'm sure Saints had agreed to buy Penarol's 30% of Ramirez, so not a problem.
According to Ramirez's agent Saints have agreed to pay 70% of Bologna's fee upfront and the remaining 30% at a later date.

In the words of Jean Luc picard
"make it so"

Penarol are having 30% of his next move after us. So he will 100% be ours but penarol will get a decent amount when we resell him which hopefully is a very very long time!

The bid was 4 mil plus goodwillie and we said no

I hope we buy them out of the 30% and we dont have a 30% sell on clause, because when we finally do sell him this kid could be worth a serious amount of money

27 Aug 2012 00:49:04
Saints have at long last agreed a deal to bring Gaston Ramirez to StMary's

only a medical which is set to be done tomorrow in italy and a work permit remain left to be finalised