Southampton Rumours Archive June 27 2014

27 Jun 2014 20:06:59
I have it on good authority that saints where not going to sell lallana to liverpool and wasnt going to carry on negotiations as the deadline had passed.

Lallana then made a huge fuss about not being able to leave and Koeman stated that he didn't want him at the club if he didn't want to be here so approved him to leave.

I shouldn't be posting this but I hope people realise lallana is far from the respectable person people though he was. Other storys I've heard are how arrogant he is out of all the other players. When they visited the hospital he demanded xbox ones for him and the other players so they were not bored this also happened at a photoshoot. Also many players like lambert and fonte etc would spend a long time signing autographs for fans who waited though lallaba would only sign one or two and walk straight into the stadium as he "couldnt be arsed"

Im not bothered he's gone my only conerns now are will anyone else go and will the replacements be gambles or proven quality.

27 Jun 2014 20:31:25
I also have some inside knowledge of Lallana, before he arrived in Brazil he was not pushing for a move and was quite happy at Saints. Something has happened in the last 7 days to change his mind. I cannot comment on any of the above post.

27 Jun 2014 20:48:39
Surely there must be some way we can demand the return of the player of the year award? I'm thinking some sort of West Quay 'Christmas lights spectacular' only with more torches and pitch forks. Seriously I haven't felt this put out since I got my brother to sit my driving test. And he still didn't bleedin pass.

{Ed003's Note - lmao}

27 Jun 2014 21:14:28
Likewise I cannot comment on the top post and nor would I. I had heard that he had been pushing for the move and had been unsettling people.

That aside, I wish him all the best. He has done us proud and wants to better himself. I can understand that.

27 Jun 2014 21:15:24
Sherbourne Saint, you made me genuinely lol fella

27 Jun 2014 21:57:22
whats wrong with him wanting to further his career with a big club,get over it

^Kevalle, I agree completely however like many I think it is the manner in which it occurred after all the badge kissing/ chest thumping celebrations & signing a 5year contract stating he would see out his career at Saints. It just seems a tad disrespectful & almost sticking two fingers up at us fans. I don't begrudge anyone wishing to further their career but there are better ways of going about it i. e luke shaw. I bet Danny Ings wouldn't be this disrespectful (he's from Netley you know) coyr

Am I correct in that he will now still get his "loyalty" payments from the career defining 5 yr contract that he saw out a year of?! i'm a big fan but surely saints have viided that in some way. Would almost suggest the same for Shaw.


OR was that one of the reasonw for signing big long contracts, so that the club could ask for shed loads if clubs came in for them?!

Reading stevo comment I knew he could go with out mentioning Danny ings have u got some sort of weird fetish about the bloke stevo??

Confirms what I said previously. There was a story about Liverpool changing their interest away from Lallana because of the high price tag.

This was a tactic to unsettle the player and it clearly worked, given all the timings discussed above. And a tactic to force Southampton to reduce the fee.

Players and agents decide transfers nowadays, not clubs. Clubs can't afford to keep unhappy players

That is incorrect, I think

Well i'm working off scraps of info but thete is deffinatly something wrong behind the scenes.

Does anyone know what jesus had said about the reason him and mopo etc left was because KL planned to sell within two years?

Also lovren apparently said something on twitter that was quickly deleted but outraged a lot of people what was that about?

28 Jun 2014 11:46:39
like you said
something is going on behind the scene
just wish someone on the board would come out and be honest for once
but it won't happen I am very wary of what reed says now don't trust him
forestsaint

28 Jun 2014 15:18:16
wll sorry to post this
just reading todays paper
morgan schneiderlin says he has told saints he is going when he gets back from the world cup
if koeman gets 100 0000000 is that going to be enough to replace those player that have left
lovren is definetly going which makes it even worse
thats more players left saints than what have left the 3 teams that got relegated
WHY IS THAT OVER TO YOU LES REED FOR ANSWERS
forestsaint

28 Jun 2014 17:25:55
I think the problem with that statement forestsaint is 'just reading today's paper' journalists are out to make stories from nothing. No need to worry who and what we hae until the end of the transfer season. With some wise moves in the market we can replace shaw and lallana if he does leave.

If it is true about Lallana ten I suggest that if he scores against us that everyone in the crowd who is a Saint should turn their back to him. Out of all the players leaving I am very disappointed in him, especially after what he had said in the last year etc about wanting to stay at Saints. I would be very disappointed too if Morgan goes too, Ricky I can understand plus at his age the money we got was good business, But Lallana has left a tter tastein my mouth

28 Jun 2014 20:02:27
do you not think that shaw and lallana were got at by utd and liverpool players
i bet they were and it worked
forestsaint

28 Jun 2014 20:16:31
its been well known for weeks that morgan is leaving
its also known its to north london arsenal are favourites
forestsaint

I done think there is anything "going on" behind the scenes at the club at all. In my opinion we are getting ready for the next phase. As Saints media recently stated that the funds would be reinvested for Roko to build HIS team for the coming season & years to come. Yes we may be in for a bit of a conildation season but in no way will we be relegated. With Lambert, Shaw & soon to be lallana gone we have just pulled the pants down of those clubs doing the buying. I've no doubt we will do the same with spider & lovren when the time comes. Remember, before the world cup spider was not a full international at senior level. In the space of 6 weeks his price tag has gone up insanely. In fact the increase in price may work to our advantage in pricing him out of previous clubs range? In my opinion we are learning from the lessons of last season i. e lack of squad depth & using the "self sustaining" model we are selling some key players at top price to fund the next core group of players to take us forward. Yes, next season is hardly going to be better than last but I think we are building for something bigger & better. I'm excited.

Why the excitement Steve, if we uilt something bigger and better, the big clubs will just come along and do the same as they have done now. Unless this club becomes a big club then I don't see it ever changing. I cannot understand how Saints cannot become a big club, very club started small, even Manchester United etc, its lack of ambition and passion from the club and fans that holds us back, let's face it we only have 15000 season ticket holders, if the fans showed more commitment i. e double that, then maybe someone might come in and take us further, I don't see the Leibherrs doing this I'm afraid

27 Jun 2014 16:52:29
Saints could have their first signing Monday - Graziano Pelle. Fee supposedly around 10m Euros

St Brad

Personally I don't want Pelle due to his attitude

Let's hope so and hope he does well

Pelle and Osvaldo, that is the attacking partnership referees would fear most.

We'd finish most games with 9 men!

27 Jun 2014 19:53:46
Pelle has an incredible scoring record. Whether that is transferable here is another matter. He and osvaldo together would have the potential to scare the plop out of every team

(Including our own. )

Major reservations about Pelle. 29. No pace. Laughable record in Italy. Questionable temperament.

Don't think he's a good fit at all.

27 Jun 2014 14:50:04
Rafa Silva and Dusan Tadic being lined up. Also Timothee Kolodziejczak.

I'd rather buy English. I hope the sale of Shaw (and Lambert) won't lead to the domino effect of home grown players being replaced by others that have no premier league experience, there is no guarantee that they will adapt to the football or culture here.
G. Ramirez looked great before buying him, and well he's not really delivered, and at what cost.

Also, hopefully we would have had the clout to have lined up suitable replacements (better than those that were sold), are we going to lose the Southampton way under the new board?

Lallana also looks set to leave - leaving just 18 first team players.

If they got Rafa, Tadic and Kolo I think that would be a reasonable trade off, with plenty of change left over I'd assume.

Don't go English. Too expensive. Big time Charlies.

27 Jun 2014 16:40:37
We have good players coming through at all levels but they aren't quite ready. The club will ease them in by giving them bench places or cup starts.the club know what they are doing.
We got Koeman because he fitted in with the "Southampton way" so I wouldn't worry too much about a change in tactics.

I think Taggart will go straight in to replace Shaw, like Chambers went straight in to replace the injured Clyne last year, I think we have a great replacement in JWP and even Ramirez for Adam but even so would love to go for someone even more ambitious like Shaqiri, that would really show that we mean business!

I also think Koeman is a fantastic coach and that we could see a huge improvement in some young players, particularly the likes of Stephens, Turnball and Debayo as they'll be learning from one of the best CB's of his generation and a Dutch and Barca legend!

I hope you're right irw

I'm cautiously optimistic but would also like to keep the squad intact, I suppose my expectations are unrealistic

I agree, English would be too expensive. We have a conveyor belt of talented english youngsters coming through anyway (Reed, McQueen, Targett, Rowe) on top of the likes of Chambers, Ward-Prowse and Gallagher we don't to buy other club's talent.

I think because clubs like chelsea and Manchester United have already spent around £60 million each and the other top clubs are starting to buy, that has quietened talks about Rafa Silva, making him more available to teams like southampton, i'm not sure if we need both him AND tadic, but considering the money we have now I think we could sign them both up along with pelle.

Those buys would be amazing I agree a good and fair trade off! If we get van djick as well we will be fine! Yes ads, rickie and shaw going are going to be tough to replace but I for one have total faith in Saint Ronald and his back room team! Pelle will be awesome and Ronald will get the best out of osvaldo!

If we are all honest surely Nicola and then poch leaving pretty much meant that the dream (unrealistic as it was) of winning the league was over and I say unrealistic because I couldn't see us going out and spending 35/45 million on one player like all champion winning teams do.
We pretty much knew shaw and Lallana were off - and fair play to the board for the price we got.
Koeman would have come in knowing that they would be leaving and would have started recruiting replacements.
I personally believe that 7th is the best we could hope for this coming season and with the right purchases is still very possible. Players move on and Adam and Luke been great for saints and deserve there chance to progress quicker then we could offer.
Rumours and inside hear say are ( prob nothing new but it's what I've heard)
No keeper news: defenders, caulker very interested in and talk between clubs have started, lad from Celtic who I can't remember to spell is of interest but not as great as reported in press. Kolo of interest. Midfielders tadic is the big hope but silva is also being discussed. Unsure about forwards but I believe a lot hangs on the nutter the currently have staying or leaving.
I'm impressed the board have sorted out the sells early - though don't rule out others going- now the fun begins as a fan watching us spend it. Top work so far board
Phil

Don't buy English? Big time charlies? What are Osbaldo and Ramires then? It was the English "big time Charlies" (your words qwertyell) that got us to eighth in the premier league last season and dragged us from the depths of league one to one of the most attractive sides in the prem, yeah big time Charlies eh mate? Lol seems like a lot of saints fans have short memories and will sell their souls and the clubs soul for a few mediocre foreigners. Be careful what you wish for as we might end up like those fishy characters down the M27. Buy English! Lol

28 Jun 2014 12:01:35
And Morgan Schneiderlin, Dejan Lovren and Jose Fonte had nothing to do with any of our success last season. We have a really good crop of young English talent. But to strengthen the depth in our squad Surely looking abroad is a good cheaper alternative. How many other English players are good enough on the ball to replace Lallana?

27 Jun 2014 13:08:34
I'd take Jack Rodwell if the price and wages were right. Fits the bill, might not make the starting 11 all the time but would improve our squad.

Think a lot of the younger English kids at clubs like city just rotting in the reserves surely just wanna play football so will take a pay cut not like they are going to be on the bread line is it,

Just think back to how gutted everyone was when we lost Poch. now with Koeman it's "Poch who?" Great news could be just around the corner. Have patience. The future's bright.

I'd take Rodwell, but not if we're going to play him in CM as we have enough players there already, if we maybe moved him to CB, then yes that could be good, as someone before said on this sight that a lot of people said he'd end in that position anyway

No thanks - one of England's poorer performers at the World Cup. I really don't rate him.

Hmmm. mungochutney. which world cup were you watching?

Yeah Rodwell was carp at the world cup, did you see the way he dropped those orange segments and spilled the Bovril at half time? lol

27 Jun 2014 07:37:37
The way I see it, Shaw going pays for Staplewood.

Or even the cost of stadium expansion!!

You'd need the entire royalties from George Bernard Shaw to pay for that place, the shower that built it were a skate firm, I know I worked there, what with their cock ups and Cortese changing his mind every 5 mins about things we will need to sell all our players to pay the bloody thing off