24 Nov 2016 14:56:30
Ok so van dijk rumours pretty much everywhere, true or not I'm not debating, whether or not he will still be here I'm not debating. What I do question though is the 30 million pricetag. surely it's got to be north of 40 million. john stones .50 million?

{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with John Stones.}


1.) 24 Nov 2016
24 Nov 2016 18:11:20
Oh how I've missed your satire. backto your usual self I see edd. I reread my comment just to check I wasn't being thick but no definitely just making a point if a club is prepared to pay 50 million for john stones then I would imagine that would put vvd somewhere north of 40 million. I merely made a comparison.

{Ed002's Note - The price of VvD has nothing to do with the price paid for John Stones.}


2.) 25 Nov 2016
25 Nov 2016 13:37:20
John stones has set the market price city we willing to play go a young centre half that is talented. Comparisons are perfectly justified if it wasn't 40 m plus or a deal with a player we want I'm sure there will be no deal. Need to get McQueen tied down and decide if we ant to push on or stagnate if we had kept pelle we would be through and probably 6 points better off in the premier I know he wanted to go and who wouldn't for those wages but a shame with no replacement.


3.) 25 Nov 2016
25 Nov 2016 14:35:19
There was a replacement for Pelle available for €2.5million; Sandro Wagner from Darmstadt, he was the 2nd highest German goalscorer in the Bundesligue last season with 14 goals. He was interested in Southampton but is now at Hoffenheim.


4.) 29 Nov 2016
29 Nov 2016 20:25:07
I agree with ed, you can't compare stones to vvd, in fact you can't really compare any fee paid for one player to another. Stones was happy at Everton and wasn't pushing a sale through, city have money to spend available compared to many other clubs, stones is ENGLISH which makes the fee somewhat more inflated plus the term of his contract and his wages, signing on fee, agent and the window the business is done in. Plus the stage in the window that the transfer is competed makes a difference.


5.) 30 Nov 2016
30 Nov 2016 09:51:04
if stones was happy at Everton did they make him leave to got Man City. Of course a fee ha a reflection on the market price of a similar product/ person how do you think the market is formed. As do the length of the contract and the salary currently being paid and the status of the club.


6.) 01 Dec 2016
01 Dec 2016 17:28:37
I don't think a lot of people on here understand how transfers work - plus they yap up anything in the newspapers (the sun had 18 of their 20 journos say we would be relegated, daily mail said why go for an unknown like puel who will fail and get Michael O'Neil instead) .

Anyway, when buying a player the club have to payout the contract. Van dijk is on £3mil a year - times by 5 years left and that's immediately £15million in value. Now, his individual value based upon potential and current ability easily exceeds £30mil - I would put it at £40mil. So, the cheapest he will go for is £50mil, but I anticipate one of the big clubs spending closer to £60mil- there is going to Ben a massive bidding war and we're going to profit from it. No way will Liverpool be able to outbid the Manchester teams, 0"7: he won't leave in January unless a club pays above and beyond like £70million as someone mentioned.

Never listen to papers as it's all made up. Papers thought mane was worth £20mil - I told my friends £40mil and he went for £38.5mil. Luke shaw £10mil? WENt for £30mil. Paddy power are offerings 4/ 6 on Van a dijk to go for more than £50mil - so even bookies reckon it's odds on.

{Ed002's Note - This is absolute nonsense. There is no paying up of the contract.}


7.) 04 Dec 2016
04 Dec 2016 18:03:56
This is a ridiculous conversation. There is a market for players. The market is up and down all the time depending on supply and demand for one. English players going to the wealthiest football club in the world when they have a quota to fill of which this player fits is not a valid representation of a future fee for a Dutch football player at a different club of different age of differing levels of happiness, wages, agent, the list literally goes on and on .

{Ed002's Note - Being English also has nothing to do with it.}


8.) 04 Dec 2016
04 Dec 2016 18:09:07
Also, consider Gareth bale. He is "valued" at the fee that madrid paid for him. However Manchester United were also in for him but Spurs turned them down as did the player due to the fact Bale wanted to go to Madrid and Spurs didn't want to sell him to another team in the same league. Yet Manchester United actually offered more money. so the fee made little difference. I can see what you are trying to say, but if the player comes out and says he is unhappy with not being allowed to go (common in this day and age, due to the agent timing comments to the media well to A, reduce the fee and B, push a sale through) if the fee is lower as the club are over a barrel then the agent can and often does take a bigger agent fee. There's a lot more that goes on here than meets the eye.

{Ed002's Note - You are all inredibly naive and have very strange ideas about the entire transfer process.}


9.) 06 Dec 2016
06 Dec 2016 12:14:06
For me, this is being over complicated. The value of a player is what a club is willing to pay.


10.) 07 Dec 2016
07 Dec 2016 15:44:29
Need, availability and capability. Clubs transfer policies are a little more in depth than us armchair managers, buying a player because they scored a hat-trick against us on football manager. I only made an observation that if john stones, a centre half of a ccertain age was bought recently for 50 million then I would assume that would put vvd in a similar price range . Sorry for opening the can of worms.


11.) 07 Dec 2016
07 Dec 2016 15:44:29
Need, availability and capability. Clubs transfer policies are a little more in depth than us armchair managers, buying a player because they scored a hat-trick against us on football manager. I only made an observation that if john stones, a centre half of a ccertain age was bought recently for 50 million then I would assume that would put vvd in a similar price range . Sorry for opening the can of worms.

{Ed002's Note - The relevance being?}


12.) 08 Dec 2016
08 Dec 2016 12:30:02
Please see above.


13.) 08 Dec 2016
08 Dec 2016 22:26:51
If a club offer the right price VVD will but not until the Summer.

It all depends on who is the highest bidder. If I was VVD I would want to go abroad ( Spain) . PL is too intense and packed with very average players.

VVD should go to Real Madrid or Barcelona but only after saving us from relegation.

A player is only worth what someone is prepared to pay.