Southampton Banter Archive August 13 2014

13 Aug 2014 21:49:35
Is Fraser Forster better than Artur Boruc?
Is Shane Long better than SRL?
That's before we start analysing the other Summer signings.
Sorry but Les Reed and or/RK are utter planks or they think we are, end of.
GHU

13 Aug 2014 23:24:50
Forster is better than Boruc--and younger. Shane Long isn't replacing SRL. Or are you forgetting about one Graziano Pelle?

Forster's defo better than Boruc
Pelle is Lambert's replacement, Long isn't coming in as a replacement for anyone, he's the quick 'fox in the box' striker most have been crying out for. ,.
As for the rest of the signings, yes they are at least as good as what we've let go. Maybe instead of bitching and moaning about who've we've lost you look at the new players with an open mind, you might find you like them. ,.

Reed's been here since Liebherr bought the club and no one moaned and bitched him out when he was responsible for bringing in Lambert, Fonte, Cork, Clyne etc. Sorry, but it wouldn't take a lot for someone to think you're a plank, c'mon

Forster is better than Boruc yes and Pelle will replace Ricky, and could well be better but we'll have to see

14 Aug 2014 14:26:04
Still gets at me how loads of people are saying Forster is better than Boruc. When have any of you seen him play in the Premier League, answer, none. I will agree with you when he shows me what he can do and not just have a Roy of the Rovers approach to our untried new keeper. Artur Boruc saved us from defeat a few times last season and look how we struggled when he got injured. He is a high quality keeper who is now probably off, so to some extent we will be back to square one with Gazzaniga our first choice back-up. God I hope Forster is as good as you all think he is because with what is looking like a very dodgy defence he is going to have to be as good as Neuer.

14 Aug 2014 17:59:30
When I said Forster was better than Boruc, that was just an opinion based on watching a bit of both of them at Celtic and then everything Boruc did for Saints. I like Boruc well enough, but he's a middle-of-the-road PL keeper and prone to some really boneheaded decisions. I truly think Forster will prove to be an upgrade.

13 Aug 2014 20:05:48
Am beginning to worry as things have gone quiet regarding florin, how long does reed need to get a transfer over the line the way we conduct our business is woeful these transfers should have been sorted before anyone was allowed to leave! Embarrassing situation for Big Ron

He who hesitates is lost

The Les Reed bashing is getting boring now. He has overseen one of the hardest and most difficult periods for our club. We have got top dollar for players were agitating for moves and some good replacements.

Why not congratulate him on he signings he has made, rather than making assumptions about things that you don't fully understand. For all you know the transfer may be delayed for numerous reasons beyond his control.

Transfers take a while to complete, there's a lot to sort out - negotiating the fee, medical, negotiating contracts, negotiating agent fees, work permits, registering the player, plus saints like to have photo's/press done ready to announce the player.
i'm sure people think football manager/fifa/whatever else is realistic, transfers don't happen over night.


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13 Aug 2014 23:02:59
According to the echo he's going to be announced in t minus 24 hrs and apparently we are giving up on Bynam from Leeds.

I know its frustrating waiting but we have to remember that we have absolutely no idea what's going on behind the scenes. We cannot apportion blame when we don't know what's going on

14 Aug 2014 10:41:44
Never ever believe what the Echo says they are the last to know anything real.

13 Aug 2014 18:24:09
I disagree with everyone what a lot of people are saying about Long, for WBA he looked good in a 4-3-3 system, can play as both the loan striker or on the wing, has a fantastic work rate and energy and will chip in a few goals too, sure he won't score 20 goals plus a season like we wanted, but he's a proven premier league player who could probably chip in 10+ goals for us, he got 7 last year yes, I think he'd be a good reliable addition, yes I don't think he's worth anywhere near the £12m mark, I'd pay £7-8m max probably and come on 27 isn't old, for a striker that's approaching there prime surely? I think it could be good, but he's not the marque signing we wanted but still will be a useful addition IMO

13 Aug 2014 17:23:42
It does wind me up when we target someone, mess about with silly bids and then a big club come along and just offer the asking price and seem to get the player, why do we do it especially as we have the cash. Another note I see Townsend is not wanted, I think he would be a good signing. Why did we not get Rojo especially as we have reportedly spend £12 million on long which I think is a joke.

We didn't get Rojo because Saints are'nt a massive club like Man utd. We also can't pay him the wages which Manchester United can offer. that's it in a nutshell.

We didn't get Rojo because his agent owns 3/4 of him and didn't want to sell it to saints, our bid for the clubs 1/4 was accepted

13 Aug 2014 15:08:22
Hello Edds, I posted a comment about Jack cork earlier today but it has not been posted on here? thanks for your time.

Ben P

What was your news on Corky Ben?

13 Aug 2014 14:23:37
Hi guys don't understand why everyone has issues with the Shane long fee, I can't think of a fernando torres costing 50million what a great but that was!! Went to the game Saturday and pelle was winning everything a little Shane long feeding of him may just what saints need, roll on Sunday 3 points away to liverhampton!

13 Aug 2014 14:03:08
ive just sent a tweet to roko asking for him to sign townsend. spurs willing to sell him. he can play on the left, he can play on the right, and he makes lallana look.
more people should tweet roko about this as its a player whos good and will get better and suits our style

That'll do about as much use as tweeting a player asking them to sign for your club

I'm sure Roko will love all the saints fans tweeting him asking us to sign one player or another. There is a reason he is our manager and not anyone posting on here, because he knows MORE!

13 Aug 2014 17:42:32
A few days ago it was Rodwell, now Townsend.
St. Marys is a football stadium, not a hospital!
How many games would each of these two manage a season?

And then there are those targets suggested who we all know will expect at least £100k/week.

I suspect there is a virus around that reduces brain cells the closer some people get to a keyboard!

13 Aug 2014 11:27:48
Let's hope this doesn't mean Jay Rod is on his way out, we all know Poch wants him at Spurs.
If we are willing to pay 12 for Long how much is Jay and Morgan valued at. I think they have got to be worth 25 to 30 mil each. Hope they both stay!!

13 Aug 2014 17:37:05
Err no, it means Jay Rod will be unfit to play for months yet, and we need someone to cover that situation. Why does everything have to be viewed so negatively?

13 Aug 2014 10:42:14
Sunderland have got Rodwell for £10m and looks like they've now also got Will Buckley from Derby for only £2.5m
Can't help but think we've missed out big time on those two.

Not to mention crystal Palace getting Frazier Campbell for 900k.

I agree 2 players I quite like, Campbell was a bargain too, as well as Hull getting Ince, QPR getting Caulker and then if Stoke get Redmond I'll be pretty gutted too

13 Aug 2014 09:36:42
Andros Townsend said to be up for sale by the traitor MOPO. Would be a good signing for Saints I reckon.

13 Aug 2014 08:54:28
Les the football genius strikes again. This guy is a disaster now happened
With our supposedly expert scouting system the best he can manage is £12m for Shane Long! Words fail me

13 Aug 2014 07:01:46
Why would we get rid of Billy then buy Shane Long? Feel he could have done same job if given chance. However I haven't been at pre season etc so have to trust RoKo. he has a master plan!

13 Aug 2014 08:30:46
Surely next one to go has to be les reed, obviously he's choosing players as i'm sure roko has never heard of shane long, real ambition that, ready for championship

Long V Sharp, 12m V 450,000, makes no sense at all. Sharp is a bargain at that price, I would have thought he would be worth closer to 2m, as for Long, Hull paid 7m for Long last season, I don't think this is good business, better options are available surely?

Long's record is that he scores roughly once every 4 games, not the best stats really

I agree that Billy would do his best given the chance, can't knock his effort, but their playing stlyes are vastly different. Billy more of a poacher whereas Long will be chasing every ball down (might suit our pressing style better?)

Long has the pace that sharp doesn't, not to mention Sharp won't cut it at prem level, we've had 3 managers since we've returned to the prem, not one of them have deemed sharp good enough

Well I guess that told me! Lol

13 Aug 2014 05:37:26
I see most are moaning about the Long transfer. Seriously who do you expect us to sign? Benteke, Bony etc etc. Long is far more realistic for where Saints are at. As for the reported fee. Inflated? Hell yes but, the market is crazy this summer. Look at what we got for our players. Were they really worth that much. IMO no. I think Long will be a good addition has good pace, good in the air and will get us some goals. He could also benefit playing with Pelle. He caused us all sorts of problems when he was at West Brom. Time will tell.