Southampton Banter Archive August 17 2012

17 Aug 2012 23:43:30
Arsenal fan here.

How did you end up signing Ramirez? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he joined you instead of the Scousers and the Spuds. But it just seems unusual.

Anyway, good luck for next season and I can't wait to see the likes of Lallana and Ramirez in action.

Ted

To be honest mate we are as surprised as you that it actually seems to be happening!

I think the lad was keen to come to an English club. Liverpool and Spurs would have been a preference but liverpool didn't make a bid as the price was too much and Spurs weren't prepared to pay the wages he was after.

Saints have lots of money (around 5th richest club in the UK in terms of owners), have lots of ambition (plan is to challenge for Europe either this season or the next couple of seasons), a young up and coming team, great facilities, great academy, sell out stadium etc. so as an alternative English club that isn't a 'big club' I suppose we are a relatively attractive option.

However, we tend to have a very shrewd chief exec (Nicola Cortese - who has ties with lots of Italian clubs which could explain why we have done so well for ourselves) who doesn't splash cash very readily, so I don't really know why we are being so frivolous all of a sudden. It could be that in our last friendly we lost 4-0 and that served as a bit of a wake up call. Most likely our chairman sees it as a good bit of business regardless of the salary Ramirez will be on... hopefully we can buy him for £12million now and sell him on for £20million to a 'big club' after a couple successful seasons in the prem.

Having said all that... deal isn't done yet. We had a similar situation with Alexander Buttner from Vitesse (player excited about the club and apparently deal done) which fell through and whilst I hope the Ramirez transfer goes through, I think I speak for us all when I say that I'm preparing for the worst... just in case!

JJ

Hey, We managed to show him around the club and he really liked our clubs ambition as southampton in the future (2/3 years) want to be challenging for europe places. Also we will give him a decent sum of money. That being said though the deal is not 100% finished.

I know we have just come up from the championship but our club has good financial backing so why shouldnt we sign big money players. We are a club that wants to achieve big things in the premier league and we need to bring in good quality players for the future.

Because people like you underestimate saints and forget we are 5th richest team in England, we have a great set up ambitios chairman and avery under rated manager

Look like your have to buy your star players elsewhere now

We haven't got him yet, looks like you did well to pull out of it, it smells of greed and corruption.

Its not done yet Ted but its possible because we have Nicola Cortese doing the talking with the Liebherr family money to back up his words. If they say No or even just hesitate, he shows them The Godfather trilogy.

17 Aug 2012 19:47:52
No. 10 and No. 3 not been assigned to anyone, Ramirez and Buttner numbers possibly?

Should be, just need to wait for them both to go through haha. Or 3 could be for a new CB perhaps.

Hopefullybut if fox was gonna become the first choice left back he'd become number 3 unless he wanted to keep 13

Adkins said in the press conference that he has two good left backs in fox and shaw, and said that buttner was not happening. Hinted he would be giving shaw some game time as he talked a lot about letting the younger players get game time.

17 Aug 2012 16:36:48
Just heard on the radio that Ramirez will be signing for £11.8million. The reporter was at St Mary's after talking to NA, but has said that an official announcement has yet to be done.
Good signing IMHO!

WH

17 Aug 2012 14:39:51
We survived in the Premier League for a long time with person chairmen that sold our best players. I am thankful for the St Mary's stadium and the youth development. But every time we took a step forward, we took one back.

Now we have much to be thankful for with the Leibherr family, Corteze and Adkins all being true to their words and delivering success and really exciting signings.

The stadium will grow, the squad is young and exciting. We have many years of happiness ahead.

The skates are dead, the saints are stronger than ever. Now seriously, what can any real saints fan have to moan about?

Up the Saints!!!!

Well said mate,at least someone is taking sense, unlike the ones moaning about transfers

Not moaning - but keep your feet on the ground!

We have come along way, but we still have a long way to go to get where we deserve to be.

JJ

Deserve to be? We are where we deserve to be, fighting in the Premier League. But we need to sign players to progress and only then we may 'deserve' to be higher.

17 Aug 2012 13:35:56
Agreed a deal for gaston ramirez. Looks like he's got some tekkers. YIPPEE!!

17 Aug 2012 11:45:52
SO. It looks like we have signed Ramirez then?! Wow. 11.8 mil apparently. I remember seeing him a bit in the Olympics and from what I have just seen on youtube im pretty impressed. If he plays on the right him and Clyne are going to cause some big problems in the prem! JUST NEED A CENTRE BACK NOW PLEASE.

He not a winger. He is a traditional number 10.

Think you will find he plays no 10 for uraguay at the 0lympics but is not a traditional no. 10, like lallana he plays wing and like to cut in and float which hints at adkins playing 2 upfront with an interchangable 3 in behind of possible lallana davis ramirez the a defensive mid holding in front of the CB. team look abit like this.

Davis
Clyne New CB Hooiveld Fox/Buttner
Schniederlin
Ramirez Davis Lallana
Lambert Rodriguez


Jas93

He is definitely a winger.

May work against Wigan but can't see us playing too many games with 2 strikers

I think that will be the line up until Cork comes back from his injury though.

17 Aug 2012 11:04:05
Ramirez all but done. Cant believe it. that shows real intention. Sky sports are reporting it, believed to be over 12 million with ramirez being very happy with the deal hes been offered. Also phillips may be closer to being finalized as per paper reports, and the papers are also reporting buttner deal maybe back on, its a foreign paper ill post the name when I find it again. now some centre backs please. Exciting times.

17 Aug 2012 10:14:04
I don't believe the ramirez rumour, however it has just been confirmed on wave fm

Keep up mate fee agreed and most of personal terms agreed - skysports

17 Aug 2012 09:19:25
Check out the news, all u doubtful people. Saints r back!

17 Aug 2012 09:09:06
A couple of days late, but the big name signing is here. later today we should welcome gaston R
As i predicited on Monday!
Great quote on sky sports.
"The English club has reached an agreement with me, it is the classic offer that you cannot refuse"
NC the Don has clearly been at work.
Who says saints don't have the continued backing of markus L .

17 Aug 2012 08:43:09
Sky Sports reporting Bologna accept 11.8M bid from Saints for Gaston Ramirez.... Crazy money! That safely shows the wage structure is blown. We desperately need defenders..

He's worth more than that. I'm not sure how highly paid he will be I doubt he'll be the highest paid by too much. {Ed001's Note - his salary is not that high, the deal involves huge bonus payments, ie win bonuses and goal bonuses and appearance money. That way it doesn't have the other players come in asking for a pay rise as he is on so much more.}

Why does it affect the wage structure, sign-on fees can cover that and housing etc. Besides we're in the Prem again and we need to move forward! Stop being so friggin negative! I'm sick of hearing fellow Saints 'fans' doubting and moaning all the time!!