Southampton Banter Archive August 30 2015

30 Aug 2015 21:10:12
Why are some saints fans so happy that we make good profit on selling our top players? It's not like the board are investing all or most of the money back into the team, why should we get excited because the owner is just getting richer?

31 Aug 2015 01:42:39
Because they are making the club stable, a sustainable business and with the ambition for a major trophy within 5 years. Some fans seriously need to get a grip and understand the plan for "the Southampton way". Even research it for some of you. Seriously. Respect where we were and where we want to head. Without doing a pompey.

31 Aug 2015 20:17:24
So surely we should be stable by now so we should be making a big step forward in making stronger replacements and upping the wages? Not sure on how much we have made after selling our best assets and rebuilding the squad but must be way over 50/70 million + tv money + league position money + ticket sales?

31 Aug 2015 21:29:35
There's thousands of hidden costs that fans, especially the ones on here and Twitter don't seem to realise

We don't make the whole of the transfer fee from selling a player. There's a 2.5% fee that goes to the FA, if they don't hand in a transfer request there's the 'loyalty bonuses' (usually a percentage of their guaranteed wages) any fees that are owed to clubs.

Take Lallana for example, most are like "we made £23 million why haven't we spent that waaahhhh". We had to give 600k to the FA, his loyalty bonus (which was high as he'd just signed a new contract and despite what a lot believe he didn't hand in a request) and 5.75m to Bournemouth, so that 23 million in reality was probably less than 15 million. The same goes for the rest of the transfers, that 80 million becomes nearer 50 million, which we spent rebuilding the squad.

Fans don't seem to count bills either, every bill you pay the club has to pay on a much larger scale.

We have one of the lowest ticket incomes in the league, lowest sponsor and last season made no income from a kit manufacturer.

On top of that there's the financial fair play, we were aiming to be in the Europa cup, and thus would have had to comply with their Financial fair play rules which are far tighter than the premierships (max €30 million loss over 3 years instead of £100 million)

So yes in reality KL may have 5 billion in the bank but the amount of 'liquid' funds the club has is much much lower than everyone believes.

01 Sep 2015 16:48:09
Why on here or Twitter?

01 Sep 2015 20:18:36
Because barring a few sensible ones on here and Twitter everyone not only thinks the club can go out and blow huge amounts of money but expects it and then they moan, blame the board and scream asset stripping if we haven't spent every penny they think the club has.

The point is, things are a lot more complicated than "we made this much money from this, let's spend it"

30 Aug 2015 20:56:47
Charlie Austin to Southampton? Think pelle could do with the help! got to be worth it?

31 Aug 2015 01:44:27
Austin is not needed.

31 Aug 2015 06:29:23
What would buying Austin accomplish?

Firstly, he's not good enough, yeah he scored a few last season but he won't ever do that consistently, remember when everyone had that fetish over Ings? Yeah.

Secondly, he's the same type of striker as Pelle, if teams specifically mark Pelle out of a game bringing on Austin won't make a damn bit of difference and vice versa.

Lastly, he's too expensive, for the 10-15 million qpr want for a striker with a notoriously dodgy knee we could get someone with champions league experience and still have change left over.

It's time for everyone to put the pictures of Austin down and stick the KY jelly and tissues back in the drawer they came from.

31 Aug 2015 12:46:34
excellent post

30 Aug 2015 17:34:09
Good win today I know it was against 10 man Norwich but at times we looked like a proper team no more route one football we used the wings and built yhe play and got results mane played his ass off making the plays a good solid result.

I hear that wanyama has said he's played his last game for saints so he can force a move to the spuds well I think its time a team made a stand against this so called player power if a player signs a contract he should honour it and if he tries to force a move then he should sit in the u21 for the rest of his contact. Players have no honour anymore saints are prepared to wait for celtic to get knocked out of cl we didn't ask vvk to force a move like the spuds have poch is a thief poaching not only players but backroom staff and agents saints board need to make a stand not only for our club but for the sake of football as a whole.

30 Aug 2015 19:08:05
I always wonder why we never hear from the PFA when the likes of Wanyama and Berahino effectively go on strike to try and force through a transfer - or threaten to go on strike, like Lallana and Lovren. If their clubs refused to pay their wages, as per the agreed contracts, the PFA would be all over it like a tramp on chips.

30 Aug 2015 15:53:20
Four at the back, passing the ball around with pace and purpose, not a hoof in sight = 3 points.

Who knew?

Obviously it helps to play 11 vs 10 against a Championship side, but the overall improvement in the quality of football was clear from the first whistle.

Why, oh, why didn't they play like this on Thursday? They still might not have won - that's life - but THIS is the Saints way. This is how we play.

Thought Romeu was outstanding. He played his tactical role to perfection. And how nice it was to see Tadic engaged and putting in a shift. Makes a huge difference.

We're not marching on, but baby steps are a start.

30 Aug 2015 18:46:48
Must've been good of qwerty is happy?! ;-)

30 Aug 2015 18:48:09
We could have been 3 up within 15 minutes. Brilliant performance, tadic especially.

30 Aug 2015 19:02:55
I thought Ward-Prowse had his best game in ages - maybe ever - as well. He even won a challenge in the build up to the first goal. An actual challenge. I saw it. It happened.

30 Aug 2015 19:21:21
Real character from Targett. A difficult month for the lad, probably too many games in a short period of time, but he was back to his best today.

With that sort of character and Ryan to take some of the load off him, he will be a good 'un.

30 Aug 2015 20:47:00
As above could of had tricky game against redmond but did well and much better positional sense, just strange why we didn't play that formation thurs

31 Aug 2015 04:16:56
I think Tadic is at his best when he's taking players on rather than looking to move the ball on quickly every time

31 Aug 2015 17:49:04
As I have said in previous posts, JWP is a quality player, just lacking in confidence.
A Centre Back and an Attacking Midfielder would be nice, but maybe Gaston "half a game" Ramirez will be given a chance.
As for VW, is he Kenywne Jones in disguise?.
At least Morgan showed professionalism once he knew he wasn't going, and got himself a move to Man United by being brilliant, and his comments soon after prove that.
Regardless of who we beat on Sunday, a wins a win and boosts morale and confidence.

30 Aug 2015 13:15:09
At the ground and, if rumours are to be believed, Big Lawrie has been saying that Wanyama has sent a message in saying he will not be returning to the ground - he's off! If that's true it's a sad indictment again of the lack of loyalty and money being the key for some players! let's himself down and his fellow players, but most of all the supporters who were very patient with him when he first arrived! We'll be better off without him but need to get someone in within the next 49 hours to replace him. Meanwhile - Come on you reds! Three points needed today!

30 Aug 2015 15:40:19
Don't sell him, fine him, then let him rot. We have to draw the line somewhere, even if it does leave us out of pocket. We are becoming the soft touch as far as players are concerned. The board can't be bossed around by a relatively decent Kenya international, who's won sod all in the game, under the age of 25. he's got no right. If he refuses to play or train then it's breach of contract. If it's true then let him rot. It's not all about money, we need to make a statement to him and all the other mercenaries

30 Aug 2015 15:45:19
I don't give a monkeys about Wanyama he wasn't that good in fact schneiderlin made him look good.

IMO Romeu look quality today so let Wanyama play with the kids for 2 years then sod him off, Tit that he is.
Don't sell him , especially the spuds then that will send a direct message to all those that think that they are better than the club

30 Aug 2015 16:14:52
spot on MilkySaint. We need to make a stand against players wanting to jump ship. If they sign the contract then they need to see the contract through.

30 Aug 2015 18:57:14
Enough is enough.

30 Aug 2015 20:53:41
We defiantly need to toughen up can't just let players leave when ever they want. It is getting totally embarrassing , Saints need to stand firm!

31 Aug 2015 08:06:38
Victor seems to have a problem with those around him-remember when we signed him and his agent trying to screw NC?
I suspect RoKo will be equally forthright with the guy and his team. It could be the lad ends up sulking and could finish his career sitting out his contract but if he decides that I suspect Saints will have that option covered. Would not be surprised to see a loan move for another DM.