Southampton Rumours Archive August 17 2012

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17 Aug 2012 22:17:17
Understand that Gaston Ramirez Contract side of things are all complete
Only stumbling block is the price. Understanding is that we've started with a low bid and hoping to put add-ons in to tempt Bologna into accepting the offer
RJ

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I think it is mostly sorted. It may involve a few more talks and a medical but seems mostly there.

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How can it be a stumbling block?? surely if a player is talking contract terms - a fee must have been agreed between clubs! Just waffle me thinks!

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Yes there has been a bid we have placed '11.3mil' but still have loads of transfer budget, so could put more in to ease Bologno aside, we hope!

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We've has an 11.8 million I'd accepted so that won't be a stumbling block it's just the add ons that he's not happy with the player has said he wants to join us so expect it in the next couple of days

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Seems to be a sentiment of either Ramirez OR Phillips.Don't agree with that, they are both young players, as is Rodriguez and could easily be used in a normal rotation.
Perhaps with the exception of Ramirez, players of that age are rarely played match after match in the Premiership.

Saint Martin

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Quistion is will we ahve him for the wigan game and maybe even matt philips aswell theres me hoping

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Bologna chairman stated in an article he will not sell for less than 20 m euros about 5 m pound more than we bid and also said deal is being fuelled by player not club and he is not happy so may refuse deal altogether !

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I reckon Southampton should offer 15 million pounds. It's less than they want but I reckon we'd get him for that.

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Contract sorted but they want add ons etc so needs resolving

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It shouldn't take too long, hope he'll finally arrive by Wigan game.

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17 Aug 2012 21:17:59
Ramirez? Is it happening or not? Anyone know! Hope so he looks good.

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Ramirez deal will happen, deal not finalised, add ons and payment terms not agreed !

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Now is he a winger or a striker as conflicting answers on the net, if he is a striker he hasn't a brilliant scoring record, hopefully now we can concentrate on c/b, how about samba appears to be having rough time out there

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He can play both and that is good for the Saints, he's a flexible player.

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He is a winger who can also play just behinf the striker
RedRyan

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In reply to the quistion were does ramirez play st rw rm cf and forget samba i still want sharwcross or scott dann

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17 Aug 2012 20:58:48
Number 3 and 10 shirts are left unfilled. Buttner and ramirez hopefully.

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The Buttner deal is in place as back up if the Ramirez falls through. We can't risk not having a left midfielder if it does. We've hopefully got Phillips too, so all being well, am sure the plan is only to buy two more attacking players plus the CB that we all know must be coming

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I think the plan is the number 3 shirt to go to a signing who has as of yet been unknown. I'd imagine a centre back cause we clearly need one. The 10 is set aside for Ramirez it seems and the choice of 15/17 shirt is set for Buttner if it works this time.

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Adkins confirmed in an interview yesterday that we are no longer in for buttner and that he has faith in what we have

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He didn't confirm that additions won't happen though. I'd hope the 3 and 10 shirts are set aside for a new defender and Ramirez.

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17 Aug 2012 17:01:35
the ramirez deal has took a big twist the club president has came out and said to sky italia he is unhappy with the way ramirez has came out and had an open interveiw about this and said "i am a serious man and i wont sell unless i get 20 million euro's" same happened last year after trying to force a move to man city if someone tells me how to post the link i will im being serious

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What he says is the truth. The Bologna president is being cagey. But it isn't a 'big twist'.

Discussions are on-going, they have reached a rough agreement but just need to sort add-ons etc to get it to the 20 million Euro mark. At the moment it's at around 15-16 million Euros, but there will be some add ons depending on appearances/goals/sell on fee which should keep both parties happy.

JJ

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Heard this to :( trying to stay positive tho, I mean why would Ramirez himself say he has been offered "so much more money" if he hadn't?? Doesn't make sence

Mini-saint

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Ramirez is happy with the deal its bolongna's president who seems to be kicking up the fuss just a ploy for more money no doubt. so fustrating to see this deal like in doubt after him being 'all but signed' like others =/

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Never trust sly for news they r not called sly sports for nothing & Ramirez isn't that good apart from saints the only other team to bid for him was wolfsburg

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What are you on about? Tottenham put in a bid as did Inter Milan they just got shot back. Other top clubs declared interest such as Liverpool but they pulled out after filling their squads with signings already.

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But Liverpool Spurs and inter milan were all interested as well.

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There is a difference between showing interest & actually bidding they lost interest after they knew how much was wanted for him & realized he just wasn't worth it , Liverpool showed interest when dalglish was in charge & commolli but u only have to look at how much money they wasted last summer on average players that tells u everything don't believe what u read in the media etc about so many clubs wanting him that's come from his agent to push the price up don't u think if he was that good the top clubs would be fighting for him

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17 Aug 2012 17:38:46
Media story about Bologna President refusing to let Gaston Ramirez go

http://t.co/0OAzeRPA

theres the link if you dont believe me

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Thought it would probably be too good to be true. Back to square one then. Just get us a solid cb.

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Yes saw that said wants 20 million euros

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Is this a joke? Buttner all over again.....

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Chill out. They've agreed a basic fee but are sorting out add ons to take the total value of the transfer up to the 20 million Euro mark.

JJ

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That article doesn't confirm the deal as not happening. Just wait and see on this one.

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17 Aug 2012 16:22:20
Gaston Ramirez is set to sign for Southampton, bud accepted and personal terms agreed. He said the offer was too good to turn down. Also matt Phillips has handed in a transfer request 25 hours after saints made a bid for him.

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If Ramirez signs other top players will want to,it sends a message!

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Bid has been accepted but bolognas president does not want him too leave, also he has not agreed personal terms and was hoping for a bigger premiership team in europe to come in for him

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The above is wrong. Its common knowledge that the offer was too good to refuse, he has said it himself. It is also the word inside of the club too. Hearing on here that the president has change his mind or something?

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He'll sign, I really hope Southampton do well in EPL, because they are like a breath of fresh air, all I hear is sense on this site, you are true fans, not like Man U. or Liverpool fans who think they just turn up to win, best of luck.
Gers/Southampton fan

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Cheers bud

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Thank you Gers/Southampton fan. On behalf of Saints fans we wish you luck in Scotland. Back to the main topic anyway so Ramirez may be set to sign and I imagine that he's the addition the squads attack needs to be a serious threat to most defences in the league. We're one good Centre back away from being a solid mid-table finish at least I think.

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17 Aug 2012 16:18:03
Matty Phillips has handed in a transfer request at Blackpool. This a day after Saints put a bid in for him. Coincidence?? Not likely. Would be another great signing especially if Ramirez signs too. Maybe then we can leave Lallana on the left where he is best. Keep going Nige and Nick, just a centre back now and things will be looking a lot more rosy in the garden of St Marys
COYR

Saintlee

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They will interchange during play, like Barcelona.
That's what we can do with Phillips and Ramirez. Though I think Lallana will play thru the middle from kick off

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If Phillips signs thats good for Southampton but I really am not sure on this one. Yes Southampton have stated an interest but with Ramirez I reckon Phillips will be dropped as a target unless we get our defensive reinforcements settled. He's a good player but not a priority especially if Ramirez comes.

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17 Aug 2012 16:14:52
Heard two strong rumours today

we are set to sign a keeper tomorrow?

Also NC & Paul Mitchel are up north (phillips maybe)

Chalkie

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How do you know NC is up north

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Good any i dea what kepper and how do yo know NC is up north

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Dont know who the keeper is

hearing he flew up today from soton

Chalkie

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He says that he heard TWO strong rumours. ONE was the keeper, and the other was about NC being up north.

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He probably is up north to watch the saints as we are play city on Sunday!
Ralph

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I thought they spent most of the day dealing with the Ramirez situation. I think NC was at St Mary's during the press conference as well. Not certain on that but I'm not at all sure of this. But if they are up north couldn't that be to do with the keeper signing anyway? I mean it seems Ramirez will be a saint so why Phillips after that?

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17 Aug 2012 09:54:31
I am hearing buttner deal is back on 3 mil
Also Ramirez and Phillips all signing by the weekend
So want this to be true been up to watch pre season games and we are missing that someone speical to make things
Happen . So hope this is true
Saints forever brad

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Ramirez has signed for Southampton check out daily echo website

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Doubt phillips will sign before weekend. Blackpool notoriously difficult to deal with, and won't want to lose him. I don't think any new signing will be done in time to feature Sunday. No time to brief on play style, formation etc

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Nigel Adkins: 'the deal for Alex Buttner is completely dead'

Want to change your story?

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I posted after satursdays match that he was rumoured that have been there
ED003 - you got anything on Buttner

chalkie {Ed003's Note - Nothing,sorry}

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17 Aug 2012 07:17:16
Buttner deal could be back on for saints

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How do you know?

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Ever heard of sky sports?

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Adkins today told radio Solent that the butter deal is now dead.

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