Southampton Rumours Archive June 24 2013

24 Jun 2013 22:32:58
Wanyama says that a move to Southampton doesn't interest him. Rumour has it that Arsenal could be about to make a move for him, and Liverpool are also said to be sniffing around.

It's his agent who doesn't care for us because the fee we aren't willing to pay him. Wanyama may as well go warm the bench elsewhere. Cortese doesn't deal with pains.

Old news move on!

Lol walm the bench. wanyama will get in most teams so quit crying and accept big names wnt join little teams

They don't want him, otherwise they'd have made a move by now.

His options are saints or Cardiff, his agent is the one holding a move up.

Either way, will be interesting to see Celtic fans reaction if 'their star player who could walk into any European team' moves to a 'small' club like us or Cardiff.

Think you will find Arsenal still want Fellaini instead, but surprise, surprise are finding he wants more money than they want to pay!

So he's a big name? Why? Because he had a good game against Barcelona. or the season he had with Celtic. not digging that the spl is no good but what's he won? he's only 21 and yes he could become a great player but he ain't just yet is he?

There are a lot of Saints fans living in a dreamworld at the moment. FYI I am a Saints fan.

We are not going to be challenging the top 4 for years to come, if ever. We might be challenging for top 8 if we make some astute signing to strengthen key positions. We scraped through last season, let's be realistic about this one.

We are not the 4th/5th richest club in the UK. We may have wealthy owners (or certainly children of a wealthy deceased owner) but they are not about to do a City. PSG or Chelsea and invest 100's of millions.

Fair Play rules mean that with a stadium of 32,000 (only sold out for big games) we are not able to spunk big money on wages.

For the other bedwetters out there Wanyama is a decent, but largely unproven player. No reason why he wouldn't want to join saints - he isn't excactly in the same transfer league as Cavani, Rooney, Isco etc etc {Ed052's Note - I don't think it impossible for you to get top 4, but it wont be next season, or probably the one after. It'll be a few years away, with some high quality cheap signings.}

Agree with the guy above. People making stuff up about the clubs targets. First objective; become a established premier league team again. That would do me! Anything beyond that is better than I've ever known. With the money we've got though, I believe we could become a team consistently challenging top 6 in a few years as long as the club continues to invest. That's my ambition though.

Lenny

Agree with the realistic sentiments above about our immediate future. In terms of cash and owners we are in fact 3/4 in terms of the rich list in the premiership.

The Glaziers are not billionaires (utd debt is huge) FSG at Liverpool are not billionaires which leaves City, Chelsea, and the Arsenal. The first two have super rich owners, Arsenal ownership and finance is very complicated and they have ongoing power struggle on the club is run hence their inability to spend big in recent seasons

To all those posting pessimism on here, claiming to be Saints fans, step back a minute and contemplate your rationale for a minute. Feel it? Scary isn't it? The world as you know it is no longer, and you seek to maintain the old-school through old-school behavior. Well, all you are changing is a few bits in a database. The not-too-distant-future has Saints vs Devils as THE event to watch in the Greatest Show on Earth. You better believe it, or I and the other rational bettors will laugh all the way to the bank at your expense. It takes a while for people in general to realize - more precisely, so-called upset after upset - and that is GOLD.

This is absolute twaddle, let's get back to what this site is all about.

I have been a saints fan all my life and this is without a doubt the best I have ever felt going into a new season let the transfers take care of themselves stop worrying about other teams and just enjoy the ride coyr

Whoever gets wanyama now is welcome to him but wherever he ends up, everyone will know that the club have had their pants pulled down

st stuie

"let's get back to what this site is all about".

I totally agree, but my post was true. People in general have 'relegation-struggle' on their mind when they think about us. It is actually really interesting. We all have the same information, but people are really immune to changes. I see those results against the Big 4 last season as a sign of normality. And that would indeed mean we have European potential.

Also, has anyone considered how fortunate we are having world leading producers of heavy construction machinery as owners, if/when we decide to expand? Building is in their blood!

I think we all ought to slow down, as you know Harry the Hood completely screwed QPR last season financially and look where they ended up. I believe that when it comes to purchases NC will seek advice from MP as he has played at the highest level and managed some great players whilst in Spain. The same was not the case when Nigel was in charge as he had only played as a goalkeeper in the lower leagues.
I think they will sign good value for money players who will fit in with our squad. By the way Gaston Ramirez will be twice the player this season after a good pre-season preparing. There is no substitute for class and he has this in bucketloads just needs to settle in and be played in the right position. Saints will hopefully not struggle this season but you lot thinking about Europe might have to wait a couple of years. Rome was not built in a day. What we will have is a closely knit group of professionals who can only improve. No mercenaries at St. Marys the likes of Harry and Ollie are welcome to them!

24 Jun 2013 12:08:04
hearing this morning that we interested in Nicol�s L�pez (Roma)

Got it from a player Friday night that the away Kit is black and gold? also heard that there is a 3rd kit Gold and black.

I heard this to. ill be honest black and gold does sound really nice.

Which player said that? why would we have an away shirt that's black and gold then a 3rd shirt gold and black? not fooling for this one and as for the striker joining and it being on #saintsfc yeah yeah whatever

I apologise in advance for my scepticism, but another random AS Roma player that we are supposedly linked with, just because he originates from Uruguay?

I love how he's played 22 games in his entire career including U-20's

If you think about it this black and gold away kit may look like our 2009-10 kit remeber with the pattern round the badge

23 Jun 2013 23:59:21
In kenyan press there are reports that Victor Wanyama is currently demanding 85000 GBP per week plus 2000000 gbp signing on payment from Southampton and that is why the transfer is not moving on well. Cardiff are willing to match this ridiculous demand but will not pay the transfer fee demanded by Celtic

Nairobi saint

Does anyone know what Ramirez's wage is? I assume he's the best paid? I would assume they want to set up a wage structure early doors to avoid a lack of harmony in the squad so our limit would surely be relative with the highest paid players we currently have?

I hope Cortese tells him where to stick those demands. Cut that wage in half and we may begin to consider but that'd still be pushing his luck.

I would be suspicious of the accuracy of this but if it is true then he can go take a walk. Not worth anything close to a package like that. Would indicate his greed and that he is more than likely a mercenary who would look to move in a year or two, not to mention the blowing of the wage structure and how the rest of the squad would feel.

Very interesting Nairobi Saint. Who does Wanyama think he is? Andy Carroll? No thanks!

Well that would have been a short meeting with Southampton. After nic stopped laughing he would have politely provided directions to the nearest exit.

Move on to other targets spend the money on players who want to join our team not ones who are going to upset team morale

A that's classic! He can't be on more than 15K-20K a week at Celtic currently

If these demands are true then wanyama can do 1 as we want players with desire to be great not desire just to be rich also in response to an earlier post when ramires came he spoke about being paid around the 50,000 mark so that is currently our highest earning figure

Wanyama is on holiday at the moment and has been reported as stating that he will bide his time before committing to a destination. "I have just heard of the same interest in the media and currently I am on holiday enjoying myself. "I will speak to my agent to find out the true position, " said the Kenyan. "For now I want to enjoy my holiday. "

Copied from the Scottish herald.

So it's his agent throwing out the numbers. Victor will sit back on holiday and wait to see who comes closest.
No way this can be done before July 1st. A situation nc will lose patience with I'm sure.

Let's move on

Apparently he is currently only on 8k at celtic

I heard that we've agreed personal terms with wanyama but his agent wants a big signing fee

He has come back off holiday to speak about terms it is stated in the media a couple of days ago so he did come back.

Simple thing is wanyama is worth them wages and if you can't afford them then he will move to a team that can and it will b your lose as that guy is 1 of the very best cdm and anyone who watches football would know that

Wanyama is on 4k per week at celtic and celtic were going to offer him 25k a week and wanyamas agent said Southamptons offer was not much better than celtics.

Have heard that ramirez is currently on 55,000 a week but lamber and lallana both have clauses in their contracts that state they will always be paid as much as the highest earner so if we did pay wanyama that ammount we would also be payin rickie and adam the same

Just shows how little we all know if its going from he wants the earth to he hasn't seen it yet to his agent wants a big fee. wonder if the truth is even in there somewhere

Never understand why clubs are expected to pay players' agents, surely they are working on behalf of the player, so should be paid by them?!

I think that this situation shows Saints position clearly.
1) We want to sign quality players to improve our team and add a new level of quality to our team.
2) We are asking these players to believe in the vision of Nicola Cortese, but won't over pay or be held to ransom.
3) Non Believers will mock our ambition, and many of our targets will only be willing to play for Southampton if they have a silly payday, or request silly money to ensure we don't sign them.

4) We will find players with great quality, that buy into Nicola's vision, and they will be announced on the official Saints web site.

In Saints we trust!

Im sorry but the very best players which the club want will not come unless paid very decant money £55k a week is nothing in today's market it seems like saints have the ambition but don't want to pay the wages that the best players require you can't have one without the other.

U can tell the rumour was made up from the start. Any club, not just Cardiff, would match his ridiculous demands if they didn't match celtics valuation, including us!

I think the wage system here works well, players have to come in at relatively low wages and show their worth to earn more. Gives them serious incentive to produce rather than them knowing they have so many hundred thousand in the bank guaranteed so they don't need to care (i. e. the QPR system).

85k a week? that's top four club wages. Do agents think that every player in the EPL earns 100k a week? It would not suprise me if you would struggle to get a squad of 22 players from the EPL who actually get the 150k a week people think they all earn. In short, I hate agents.