19 Oct 2024 19:32:18
I can honestly say we were robbed today. Leicester were always going to come back at us in the second half and have a crack at it. They showed that with the first goal .and that's fine.
However the penalty incident is where things changed and unfairly. About 5 or 10 minutes before Onachu gets pulled back by the shirt when going for a ball in the box, nothing given .fine. BUT a penalty is given for that same reason and then on top of that we go down to 10 men.
I'm not a fan of how with penalties the team is always punished twice with the penalty and then losing a man on the pitch.
Going down to 10 men meant we couldn't afford to be aggressive and Leicester knew this and took advantage.
We were robbed because if your going to give a penalty for something you have to be consistent with it and if not at the very least don't double punish a team.
I laugh though when I see you guys in here still going on about RM, you can't seem to separate a loss that wasn't his fault from a loss that is. I saw saints fans leaving around the 80th minute mark and it's something that needs highlighting, much like the way the negativity is in this forum. Charlie Austin once said, and whilst he is a complete knob, to be fair he did have an actual point that time, and that was .that saints fans only get behind their team when their winning.
I thought about it a lot when he said it and it's true. Like take today for example, right when as a team the players needed the fans as much as possible, instead of staying and making the place as loud as possible they leave ???. Today was about fine margins, unfair ones frankly, and though we lost a man on the pitch we could have made up for it off of it, from the stands .but did we, as fans .no. We just walked away. All I hear on here is RM out and I "bleed red and white" . Yet today has nothing to do with RM (it was a decent performance overall) and there wasnt any of this passion from the saints fans I keep hearing.
RM will most likely be gone soon (largely because of fan base like you guys in here) and I'm going to laugh and point fingers at the people who wanted him gone when, whoever's comes in, changes absolutely nothing points wise.
That's for another time, until then, wether you want RM gone or not I think as supporters we should get fully behind the team every match .any team coming to our ground should be drowned out at all times by our fans .not encouraged on by their own fans by being louder than ours. It's diabolical.
If your angry at the result today your anger should be directed in this order
1 - The officials
2 - Our own fans for not being loud enough
3 - Russell Martin.
Whether you think RM did a bad job today, we WOULD have got a result today if the 1 and 2 above were better.
1.) 19 Oct 2024
19 Oct 2024 20:04:10
We have one point from a possible 24.
Yeah it’s probably the officials and fans fault.
2.) 19 Oct 2024
19 Oct 2024 20:09:11
Leslee, you have this uncanny knack of causing offence whether intentionally or not.
I do a 200 mile trip every time I watch Saints at home and travel to many away games too.
My support is unquestionable over a life time of watching the good the bad and the ugly. Right now, it is truly shocking - clueless and gutless and managed by a complete half wit.
Sure, some fans may have left early but that happens at every ground in the country. They are entitled to voice their opinions and leave when they want.
To point the blame at the fans is plain stupid. And actually, we weren’t robbed, Leicester hit the post and the bar before they scored and dominated most of the second half before the dismissal. On balance a draw would have been a fairer result.
Nobody on this forum is saying there’s a manager out there who is going to come in and save the day. What most of us see though is there’s a lunatic in charge who doesn’t know what way’s up.
Still driving home - an hour to go, so perhaps you can stop coming out with these utterly pathetic blanket statements about if being all our fault.
3.) 19 Oct 2024
19 Oct 2024 20:28:39
Let's remove the subjectivity. Nearly a quarter of the way through the season, 1 point from a possible 24, practically every qualified observer saying RMs approach is naive and doomed to failure. RM refusing to acknowledge that just maybe he needs to revise his approach. At this stage saying we were robbed and fans leaving early is even partially to blame is really for the birds. If we are happy with a noble relegation with RM sticking steadfastly to his principles then fine, crack on. But let's not get to the end of the season and say that if RM had more support from the fans, and that decisions had gone more our way it would have been different . That's delusional.
4.) 19 Oct 2024
19 Oct 2024 20:49:31
It’s taking every ounce of my will power to not be harsh in my reply but you really have stooped to the bottom of the barrel.
How dare you blame the fans for walking out at the 80 minute mark after losing a 2 goal lead in a must win game for many reasons. When we were 2-0 up the ground was rocking, it is not the fans thought that we conceded 3 goals and lost the game.
If you are looking for an alternative excuse for another diabolical result today please do not try and throw us fans under the bus because you can’t comprehend the criticism of the other half of the les and RM bromance.
I am fully convinced that you are only here for a wind up so I’m not going to stoop down to your level but I have to say I find it impossible that you can be this delusional, you MUST be a pompey fan in disguise coming on a Saints forum to try and wind us up. I must say though it is not going to work on me, I can see straight through your BS.
Even you les could go in tomorrow in full charge of the first team and I would bet a lot of money that you would get more than 1 point in the next 8 games so I don’t understand your comment about wanting to laugh and point fingers at everyone when a new manager comes in and changes absolutely nothing points wise. if we lose 7 games and only win 1 we will treble our current tally.
It’s actually laughable reading over your post, according to DL (delusional les) all us fans need to do is sing a bit louder and we will win every game, let’s all take a megaphone to the Etihad next weekend and we will win 0-6, it’s that easy guys. The City boys will be shaking in their boots when they hear us coming.
In other news, the DL and RM bromance saga is still marching strong and remember everyone keep singing from the top of your lungs and we will be sure to make top 4 ?.
5.) 19 Oct 2024
19 Oct 2024 20:54:30
P.S
I’ve just got off the phone with Charlie Austin and he said “cor ain’t that the pot calling the kettle black” and I have to 100% completely agree with him on that.
6.) 19 Oct 2024
19 Oct 2024 21:24:48
I will say it how I see it - subjective or objective thank you very much
7.) 19 Oct 2024
19 Oct 2024 21:35:40
It's not for the birds and nor is it delusional.
I've been to a few games this season and the Man it's game specifically all I heard ALL match was the United fans. Sure the saints fans got there usual songs and chants in here and there but soon as they finished up piped the utd fans and they continued on for the whole match .being the loudest.at our ground!
The point I'm making is I don't care about RM. Sack him now and get someone else in quick, at this point I think it's needed so you're see my point. That point is our points tally doesn't outright reflect RM it's something that will happen regardless who comes in/would have been in charge with this current team and everything I've said before.
You think the grass is greener and that is fine yet you're not willing to stand by that argument so when it hits the fan i.e the next manager doesn't save us from relegation it's all "we I didn't ask for this manager" or "the board shouldn't have hired him" ect .the same board who hired Jones, Selles, Martin is the same board you are trusting to bring in someone amazing .won't happen.
Sure fans can leave early it's there provocative but that's not support, that's not being read and white through and through and that's not helping you're team when you need em. That's leaving when things are bad and just waiting for the things to be good.
I truly believe everyone in the ground singing and getting behind our team would have secured us at least a point today. Instead they leave early to piss and moan about the team ?
8.) 19 Oct 2024
19 Oct 2024 22:20:26
So Leslee, just to be clear, what is the magic song that would have got us a point?
Is it “RM’s red army” or “get your fathers gun” or “Rule Southampton … we’re by far the greatest team the world has ever known” or “were f***ing dynamite”?
What is it Leslee?
9.) 19 Oct 2024
19 Oct 2024 23:16:24
I don't get people saying we should be Liecester.
Liecester who were premier league champions not too long ago, who trashed us both last season in the championship and destroyed us 9-0 at home.
Factor in also just how many of you would likely take Steve Cooper as a manager over RM whilst also saying we should beat a team that Steve Cooper is managing.do you not see the madness in that ?If we're beating a Steve Cooper team why woukd we want him as a manager.
I do agree though of all the teams we will come up against we should be competing with Liecester/beating them ect .and that's what we WERE doing for the majority of the match. It was poor referring that cost us the result today and you guys are so blinded by your obsession with wanting RM out that you don't see that.
Liecester should have had a player sent off and that would have evened the field for us and allowed us to be more aggressive. Even Gary Linekar, a Liecester fan, agreed on MOTD.
I don't get how you guys can be so vocal on here, passionate, opinionated ect and yet believe you have no clout or influence ect.
There's a vast difference between an quiet stadium and a loud/cauldron like one. So yes, fans CAN influence a game especially when needed the most. But like I say saints fans aren't the most vocal. Do a Google search for the loudest Premier league fans, you won't find us on there. There's a difference between paying and going to a game and being the 12th man through vocalizing and drowning out the opposition.
At what point do fans take any responsibility. It's seems listening to you guys the answer is never. For me if a new manager comes in and doesn't do any better than that responsibility is on fans. Leaving a stadium early being a man down and 7 minutes added time .for me that's fans responsibility.
10.) 20 Oct 2024
20 Oct 2024 00:23:24
I haven’t seen one post where someone has wrote about we should have easily beaten Leicester, pre match or post match. Once again you are making things up and putting your own made up opinions in other people’s mouths and then arguing with them. Show me where someone has wrote anything like that? You must be reading a different forum and then coming on here to air your responses. Writing that you’re disappointed because we let a 2 goal lead slip is not the same as saying we should have easily beaten Leicester.
According to your logic (nonsense actually) the best teams in the world should have the loudest fans, nothing to do with players, managers, finances, back room staff and training. Just singing. The fact that you can’t see how stupid you sound is astonishing.
Forget RM, forget about any manager in fact. Does anyone know a good conductor up for the job. No football knowledge necessary for the role, just needs to be able to up the decibels on ‘oh when the saints go marching in’ around the ground. I think we have cracked it.
What would we do without Mr Lloyd. ?
11.) 20 Oct 2024
20 Oct 2024 11:55:19
So Lesleeeee, come clean . are you RM?
12.) 20 Oct 2024
20 Oct 2024 15:38:54
You’ve cracked it South Hants Rich!