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19 Sep 2023 22:19:04
No more excuses, no more hand wringing - wake up and smell the coffee.

We are a League 1 outfit in terms of personnel, leadership and management.

Tonight was pathetic - worse than pathetic. Clueless, rudderless and hopeless.

Change the manager now - send the squad to a Royal Marine boot camp and inject some serious bottle.

As fans we are too accepting of the so called Southampton way - it works until it doesn't.

Call out the lack of effort, courage and commitment - and don't search for excuse.

That egotistical idiot (RM) is in the same bracket as Jones. He must go now.


1.) 20 Sep 2023 07:35:07
Never thought I would say this but Neil Warnock has his last game in charge of Huddersfield tonight, and has says he's not retiring yet. He ticks all the boxes you have mentioned.

2.) 20 Sep 2023 08:33:36
Ipswich should have scored 3 goals before halftime! Their goalkeeper made 1 decent save all game, we were at home! 3 things to say: if our players were so poor why have other clubs clambered to sign so many. If the players we brought in are so poor why do they have international caps and high market values. The only common denominator is the arrival of SR and the sudden serious demise of the clubs standing. RM has been found out after 3 games, if we play to the strengths of the squad we will be there or thereabouts but bizarrely it appears that is not what SR seem to want.

3.) 20 Sep 2023 10:04:32
I felt the same last season, that SR were wanting us relegated. We were buying players but not playing them.
The absolute waffle that comes out of Martins mouth is incredible. going on about last season and how much it was affecting the players.
No . you’re wanting them to play a style of football they are not accustomed to, they enjoy playing, that is working.
You’ve been found out .
At a mid-table team fair enough, you win some and lose sum, so your awful tactics are lost in the noise.
But we are a team that should be pushing for promotion.
This has to end, Martin absolutely sees nothing wrong in his tactics and is blaming it on anything else

4.) 20 Sep 2023 10:06:45
I completely understand your frustration. Getting beaten is one thing but tamely losing with a whimper is another.

I do believe we have a squad worthy of playoffs. The value of our squad on transfermarket and the bettings odds at the end of the transfer window both put us in the top 3.

What we have is a squad not playing to its potential - lacking leadership, lacking confidence and lacking a style of play.

I believe this is fixable but we need to make the changes required.

1. Stop playing out from the back 24/7. Especially for young players, lacking confidence, this is a risk.
2. Protect our back line from counter attacks, e.g. with Charles and Downes as holding midfielders or not pushing too many people forward with slow build ups.
3. THB needs Bednarek or Stephens alongside him.
4. Manning needs to step up or step aside. In time, Larios may take his place. Until then KWP could switch to the left and Stephens, Holgate or Bree could play at RB.
5. Alcaraz, Edozie, Sulemana and Adams could be an exciting front 4 on the break (plus AA, Stu and Stewart), we need to play to their strengths and mix up our play.
6. I understand players are disappointed after last year and not getting moves etc. We need to draw a line, move on and not indulge it. The best way to play in the PL is to get promoted.
7. If we need to get Al Pacino in to give a proper speech, let’s have a whip round!

I expected us to be languishing around 10th after the first 10 games. Saints and RM seem to start slowly but now is the time for a change of plan and attitude.

Over the next sets of ten we should be aiming to move up to 7th, then 5th, then 3rd and be knocking on the door of the top 2 or having the momentum going in to the playoffs.

This should be our goal and it is obtainable IF we make the changes required and players coming back like Larios, Stewart and Sulemena make an impact. Balls in your court RM and SR.

5.) 20 Sep 2023 11:24:25
That moron is white ring on now about scar tissue! We have 9 players in the squad who didn’t play a minute for the club last season… Htf can they have scar tissue! RM really is showing to be dillusional in his after match assessments ?

6.) 20 Sep 2023 13:09:37
First time 2408 I’ve felt you are absolutely seething!

Shame we can’t post links / photos, because the script of his post match interview, was absolute crap. As you said 2408, basically saying our performances have been affected by last season.
He can’t last ., not only is he a clown, his football is dire and predictable, with our best players on the bench.
As for manning . awful!

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7.) 21 Sep 2023 09:39:23
Please read Wes Burns and Jo Tessems comments that the Southern Echo have now printed. Sums up our playing style, predictably and our fate if things don’t change. I don’t think I can recall an article from a player who has just played against an opposition that mocks a style of play. The article informs all future opponents how to beat us, well done RM!

8.) 21 Sep 2023 08:42:41
Thank you Ed



18 Aug 2023 12:30:34
Stick or twist .?

Sean Dyche is a canny operator and it looks like he is sniffing round Adams and Sulemana hoping to get them on the cheap now Saints have a healthy bank balance.

Personally, I hope we keep both. We know what Adams can do at this level and we have yet to find out how good Sulemana will be. I think he is a star in the making - not unlike Mane in his first season with us so can't wait to see him get a run of games.

So, unless we've got a gem lined up, let's stick with those two please.


1.) 21 Aug 2023 20:18:53
Imperative we keep Che. He scores in Championship! Get his contract sorted ASAP - we can afford the wages!



07 Nov 2022 13:35:59
Read and weep at the list of contenders to take charge.

Nathan Jones, whom we have apparently held talks with. An undistinguished playing career and even less impressive managerial career Brighton caretaker, Stoke and Luton twice.

With all respect, please tell me we are setting our sights higher than that.

We perhaps need to be guided by the nations's political turmoil - be careful what you wish for.

Yes, affordability is a consideration when selecting the next manager, but in my opinion we can't afford not to invest in a proven track record of quality.

If only we had gone for Eddie when we had the chance.




07 Nov 2022 13:35:59
Read and weep at the list of contenders to take charge.

Nathan Jones, whom we have apparently held talks with. An undistinguished playing career and even less impressive managerial career Brighton caretaker, Stoke and Luton twice.

With all respect, please tell me we are setting our sights higher than that.

We perhaps need to be guided by the nations's political turmoil - be careful what you wish for.

Yes, affordability is a consideration when selecting the next manager, but in my opinion we can't afford not to invest in a proven track record of quality.

If only we had gone for Eddie when we had the chance.




17 Oct 2022 22:46:24
An ex football pundit once famously said, "you'll win nothing with kids".

The class of 92 proved him wrong and the rest is history but Hansen's view is pretty much on the money.

Youngest team in the PL and a mediocre squad with a tactically blind manager. If Hansen was on MoTD now he would call it as it is. We have to change something very quickly before we get past the point of no return.

We continue to be in self denial. On Saturday it was more of the same; Adams missing gilt edged opportunities, Armstrong huffing and puffing and JWP playing backwards and sideways.

Then, the pantomime moment of changing half the cast as Ralph showed to the watching world he really has no idea what to do next.

Sad but true, Bournemouth and Brighton are both 2 or 3 years ahead of us in squad development. I fail to see a team in the PL who would be worried about playing us.

Sure, we may catch the odd break as we did against Chelsea, but the reality is we are a championship side and that's where we're heading.

I don't think even a change in management will avert the inevitable - we're just not at the races.

Bournemouth away is now much bigger than south coast supremacy - it's the cliff edge for Ralph, Saints and every fan who cares about our future.

Football is a funny old game and whatever happens at Bournemouth I fancy us to beat Arsenal at home on Sunday.

Maybe I should drink less! Keep believing guys .


1.) 18 Oct 2022 20:51:47
Hi Millertime .
What is so sad for me, is sad the right word? Devastated . is that there were always ‘also rans’ in the league that everyone knew would struggle, pick up the odd win, play awful football . and guess what .
We are now that club. I love football, I love good football, exciting football, technically good football .

Shouted at by many a fan for clapping an opponents great move, a great great goal . so yes I am a proper fan of football!

To watch the likes of Brighton play is a breath of fresh air. gone of the days of the ‘also rans’ playing rubbish football, defending in numbers, trying to score goals on the break. The modern day EPL team is overrun with quality, internationals. To succeed you need to play great football, defend well, play technically good, have ever changing tactics .

Southampton has none of that .
we are awful to watch! Against West Ham we
We’re totally outplayed from early on. Their manager switched tactics and we didn’t change a thing .’
Scratched record springs to mind .

I attended the 76 cup final, I flew back from working in Germany for the 79 league cup final.
so yes I’m long term through thick and thin .

Southampton are awful, the manager is technically inept and awful interpersonal skills .




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29 Nov 2023 20:45:53
That was the most dull 45 minutes imaginable - devoid of entertainment, inspiration and effort.

It looks like we've decided to play 'walk football' - their shirts won't need washing - not a drop of sweat anywhere.

The good news is that the second half can only get better.



1.) 29 Nov 2023 23:10:23
And it did - just about…

2.) 29 Nov 2023 23:50:12
It’s so nice to come on here and see an honest opinion.
I’ve been getting absolutely battered on Facebook.
Any mention of him being an awful manager with though previous success whatsoever, has resulted in criticism towards me…
We have scraped so many wins, Bristol tonight could’ve snatched a draw or even been ahead.
We gave them so many chances .
While I am excited at our league position, it is not a true reflection of the quality of the football we have played.



08 Nov 2023 18:25:12
As our attention draws to the weekend I couldn't help think back to a cold night in February 1976 when we faced West Brom in a 5th round FA cup replay. What a memorable night that was under the Dell floodlights and to this day I recall their goalkeeper (Osbourne) entertaining the Milton Road end by keeping the tally of goals conceded (3 within the first 30 mins) in the condensation on the goal post.
It was also the first glimpse we had of a 19 year old called Bryan Robson!

And so to Saturday and whilst I would welcome 3 points howsoever gained, wouldn't it be great to have a scintillating performance to match our cup winning side - a Channon hatrick and a Gilchrist wonder goal.

Dream on is the likely response but heh - what a night that was!




04 Nov 2023 13:31:05
Pretty football v pragmatic football. Which will triumph?

In this uncompromising patch of south London, they don't take prisoners and won't have any fears in the physical match up.

Over the years the likes of Mark Dennis, Terry Hurlock, Case, Ruddock, Golac, Steve Williams, Jo Jordan would have been licking their lips. Not sure we have that in our present group.

Let's hope for a clean sheet and and an ugly win.


1.) 04 Nov 2023 17:04:32
That’ll do!

2.) 05 Nov 2023 18:59:20
I’m not sure what to write really . we’re winning . just .
but it’s great to see us fighting harder, and definitely starting to get the ball in the box quicker.
but crikey are we doing it the hard way!
I can fully understand the idea of possession football higher up, to work an opening, to spread the defence, to get in behind. but can’t we start doing it from the first minute, not from the 70th minute!
Our get out of jail cards are going to be all used up soon!
We are still giving the opponents way too many shots in such little possession.
But it’s great to see the team spirit, a settled team . and no Manning



23 Sep 2023 19:12:56
As the judge donned his black cap, he turned to the defendant: "Mr Martin, you have brought nothing but misery to many thousands of people - you have cast a dark shadow over what was once a proud football club. You are unrepentant and for that reason the axe must come down upon your head. May the Lord have mercy upon your soul".

Perversely, I'm hoping that we don't beat Leeds and Stoke because that would give Martin a stay of execution.

Far better to get rid of him and get a proper management team in.

I'm thinking South Hants Rich and 2408 (who could become the modern day Clough and Taylor) unless Poch gets sacked and fancies coming home!


1.) 24 Sep 2023 11:06:14
It would be a dream for poch to come back. We need him our we will be vsing fricking basingstoke Fc in the non division at this rate



15 Sep 2023 23:05:14
Oh and in the interests of balance I forgot to mention that on the plus side we won more throw-ins than them.

Well everybody bangs on about possession so why not .





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12 Nov 2023 11:29:24
All of which goes to prove RM actually does follow our posts and listens to our constructive criticisms - obviously!




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26 Sep 2023 22:50:03
Brilliant piece SaintGGsy. You should send it the Board undersigned by all of us!

Looking back, I was recalling the number of Saints fans who were heralding relegation claiming it would be the perfect opportunity to regroup and reset.

I argued with them at the time, because I never settle for second best but half thought they may have a point. As it transpires, it couldn’t have turned out worse. That’s not ‘I told you so’ - it just goes to show how utterly frustrated we all are.

We stick it on RM - rightly so - but the players should be ashamed of their lack of football intelligence and complete lack of courage. I wouldn’t want any of them in the trenches with me.




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01 Sep 2023 20:46:35
Football revolves around opinion and I’m entitled to mine, as you are yours. It’s not moaning, it’s sharing and considering others’ views. When you resort to pathetic insults such as ‘frightened of your own shadows’ to describe Saints fans with views different to you then that is just plain ignorant.

We’re all Saints fans through and through - I travel round trips of 220 miles for every home game and go to most away games so you might want to check your patronising tone.

And because you asked, I’ve been critical of the attitude and application of the team over the last two years. I’ve never said, they were competent but I do think some of them are better equipped to perform in the Championship.

You seem to be doing a lot of moaning about the players you don’t rate - mercaneries you call them. Some of them probably are but you won’t find me lecturing you. So if you don’t want to suffer (as you put it) other people’s opinions you know what to do.

And I will share my opinion - this deadline transfer dau will be measured not by who we bring in but by who we manage to keep at the club eg Adams, Sulemana, KWP, ABK.




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01 Sep 2023 17:42:11
Now that is funny!




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01 Sep 2023 00:42:32
Peter, show some respect to the fans who post and share their concerns. What is happening at our club is ridiculous in the extreme.

What is the basis for your optimism - to suggest we are 2 or 3 players short is naive. We have loanees and youngsters - untried, untested and unlikely to succeed .
Why should we wait for 2 or 3 years to build a squad/team capable of playing at the highest level.

We will have a team which is bang average in the Championship. I find it disappointing that you are so willing to accept mediocrity in the name of ‘fairness’ - you should be demanding that the club takes all necessary means to ensure our return to the PL.

Before you respond to this - watch the documentary about Burnley’s mission to return to the PL. It epitomised a boardroom that backed the manager and a manager that backed the team.

We are more likely to turn into a team of hand wringers than winners. All we have achieved in this window is dismantle a squad who had a chance of getting promotion. Don’t ever do that ‘woe is me thing’ - it’s not clever and it’s disrespectful.





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29 Nov 2023 23:10:23
And it did - just about…




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26 Nov 2023 19:57:48
I’ve kept quiet lately because I disagreed with the popular view that we had turned the corner.

Sure, results have been mostly good and we’ve had some good fortune along the way. But, and it’s a big but, I’ve not seen much of a change in tempo or ambition on the pitch to suggest we’re learnt very much.

If anything our league position belies our performances, not that I’m complaining. It’s just infuriating that with a little more courage we would be neck and neck with Leicester, not 11 points adrift.

If we can get home wins against Bristol City and Cardiff then 7 points out of 9 would be a decent haul post the latest tedious international break.

There are reasons to be cheerful but I’m glad I’m not the only one not lighting up the cigar yet.




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04 Nov 2023 17:04:32
That’ll do!




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29 Oct 2023 12:10:10
I agree - normally I find myself bemoaning our bad luck but yesterday we definitely caught the breaks - Baz’s rush of blood to the head was a nailed on pen and our first goal was a smidge and a half offside.

They say luck balances out so rather than overthink it, just roll with it knowing that it won’t be long before we get a perfectly good goal disallowed etc.

A few post match thoughts:

I thought Downes had a better game yesterday.

Bree played like Bree.

Sulemana is different class.

Collectively not as strong as the League 1 squad from a few years back.

Well on course for a record low number of clean sheets ever!

Not too long now to the January window!




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27 Oct 2023 19:08:09
Manning v Bree is like lethal injection v electrocution .
Neither please…. They simply aren’t good enough - liability the pair of them. Rubbish defending and rubbish going forward.

Charles is raw but I’m not impressed. Lacks any kind of composure with the ball and chases shadows without it. Light years away from the ability of youngsters like Tino.

I regret not off loading Adams now - his attitude and performances have stunk of late. Maybe you’re right - Everton may have done a deal which given that they may have 12 points deducted will see Adams back where he started.

On another note, I have yet to see anyone come out in support of Mr Clever Dick - even the sky sports pundits are laughing at our possession football. How frustrating is it as a fan when you’re more worried when you have the ball than when the opposition have it.

Please, please change gears tomorrow and up the tempo. Let’s not gift Rooney his first win as their manager.