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29 Aug 2024 13:31:21
JWP getting closer, on loan. Yuri will be a purchase, Flamengo in serious financial trouble and must raise several millions before end of September. If JWP doesn't sign then Yuri will be a 2.5/3.00 loan with option to buy. Don't be surprised to see Fraser or Willian signed after closure of window.
1.) 29 Aug 2024 17:05:39
Do you mean Corinthians in financial trouble?
2.) 29 Aug 2024 17:50:34
Sky sports reporting Yuri highly unlikely now. As for Jwp perfect fit for our pass sideways and backwards style. Should be great counting how many passes we make before the opposition score! Jwp not for me. And as long as Stephens plays it doesn't matter who we have in goal.
3.) 29 Aug 2024 18:04:51
I think max cornet is more likely to fill the loan spot, although I would love to see JWP back, lesly and flynn with mattheus/aribo/smallbone/dibbling competing for places would only be a good thing.all though we do seem to be linked with just about every player at the moment!
4.) 29 Aug 2024 18:46:01
Where’s the out and out striker we were promised? Why Yuri not coming? If we don’t get the goals we are down simples
5.) 29 Aug 2024 20:38:57
I think archer will get us goals.still have tall pall and sicknote Stewart.
6.) 29 Aug 2024 22:01:19
Sorry, Corinthians!
7.) 30 Aug 2024 08:10:46
Mac Cornet will join today. There is no doubt. JWP won’t.
8.) 30 Aug 2024 08:59:30
Not sure. Parish getting stuck in for Palace as they want him too
9.) 30 Aug 2024 11:06:26
JWP looks like he's going Nottingham First so unlikely now to grab him as west ham rather would gain money over a loan
10.) 30 Aug 2024 11:39:03
Looks like we have beaten Palace. Cornet en route to us?
11.) 30 Aug 2024 12:26:38
Forest are paying a huge loan fee and all wages for JWP, even more than Ramsdale wages! It’s all last minute and a rush, can’t understand the logic. Get your squad sorted before first game of season! Anyway, looks like a few are leaving and 2/3 coming in.
12.) 30 Aug 2024 13:35:28
You think Yuri Alberto is likely to happen? Saw a few articles saying its unlikely now
13.) 30 Aug 2024 13:42:32
Report says JWP rejected us. His choice. Hope he doesn’t live to regret it. No worries we will be fine without him.
14.) 31 Aug 2024 03:28:15
Suggested team post 30/8/24 (prior to availability of Cornet, Fraser and Stewart ) . Ramsdale. Yukon TBH ABK/ ( (Taylor) KWP Fernandez DOWNES LES. LALLANA//Sam Amo) ARCHER BEN DIAZ Subs. Macca Taylor AArmstrong Bednarek Dibling Smallbone Aribo Sam Amo//Lallana
22 Aug 2024 09:33:07
I have been told that Saints are looking long and hard at Sverre Nypan of Rosenberg. The Norwegians want 14 million euros for him. He scored a hatrick last night and is very highly rated.
1.) 23 Aug 2024 09:09:07
Thanks for the intel @2408.
Do we still have money to spend?
Saints were saying they needed to sell before they bought. I think you said we probably had 12m to spend.
Since then we have 10m in for Mara, have spent 30m on Archer and Fernandes, potentially 10m lined up on Bijlow and now maybe more.
Sounds like we are very confident on 20m in from ABK and Onuachu to balance the books, KWP or Alcaraz may be off (hope not) or there was more money available than thought.
2.) 23 Aug 2024 16:08:13
Alcaraz and ABK will cover what’s been spent. Alcaraz is a free spirit not suited to arms regimented system.
3.) 23 Aug 2024 18:37:32
Thanks @2408.
Alcaraz is currently the 2nd highest PL goal scorer per game in the squad, so it seems a big risk to sell him but point taken on the system adherence.
Appreciate the update
14 Aug 2024 16:33:25
Please don't shoot the messenger but I've been told talks have started about a KWP JWP swap deal. It is from a reliable source so who knows?
1.) 14 Aug 2024 17:08:44
Hope so 2408. He will get us a few more goals.
2.) 14 Aug 2024 17:29:00
2408 - I find your posts on the money but this time I hope you are completely wrong. Not only would it be a massive set back losing KWP (try replacing him for under £30M) having JWP would be the finish of us. Free kicks are different class but his contribution overall is bang average
3.) 15 Aug 2024 10:48:08
Like I said, please don’t shoot the messenger. Ipswich are about to sign Phillips and Cajuste which are excellent loan deals. I’m very surprised we didn’t go for Phillips. MaCatee deal is now dead so let’s hope for 2 quality loan deals coming in or we will be cannon fodder for most premier league teams.
11 Aug 2024 13:32:59
I've been told Broja is not keen on signing for the Saints. Still working on McAtee deal. Contact has been made with several premier league clubs for keeper on loan. Appears to be very quiet with a week to go until start of season.
07 Aug 2024 09:03:08
Have it on good authority that we are actively trying to get James Mcatee on loan for the season as O'Reilly deal getting way to expensive.It will depend if City bring in an experienced central midfield player. Chelsea are playing hardball with Broja, they only want a sale to help them with PSR. Saints are trying to get 2 wingers and one might well involve KWP in swap.
{Ed001's Note - hasn't McAtee already joined Sheffield United on loan?}
1.) 07 Aug 2024 09:55:36
He’s just returned from tour with City, he’s still a city player but no doubt there will be a long queue for his loan signature
{Ed001's Note - no, it's my fault, he returned from loan this summer from Sheffield United. I got it mixed up. I should have checked first.}
2.) 08 Aug 2024 12:07:02
Straight loan, or loan to buy?
3.) 08 Aug 2024 13:51:21
Don’t know the ins and outs of individual contracts I’m afraid, just that we’re talking with City. Guadiola and Klopp were both very complimentary about RM style of play so that might help.
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18 Sep 2024 15:36:00
I haven`t posted for a while because I wanted to see RM reaction to events unfolding. It was apparent before the season start that his possession game would not be successful against premier league opposition, their coaching/technical/analyst departments are way to tactically proficient not to find a way to win against us especially as we are so one dimensional. What has been surprising is just how inept his player selection has been and his stubbornness bordering on arrogance not to accept error and try to rectify it during the game.
Examples, Brereton Diaz is a forward who favours playing slightly on the left of either a 2 man or 3 man attack NOT a left winger OR left midfielder. No height or power in attack, Onaucha offers both until Stewart is match fit. Lack of serious pace in the centre backs, ABK is lightening quick. Archer is NOT a centre forward OR penalty taker. Substitutions are often like for like and not impact or game changing. Man Utd were there for the taking in the first half but we dallied about after the penalty miss, gave them a goal and suddenly their confidence grew and ours just disappeared. MANAGERS FAULT!
Try going toe to toe in games where the team has a chance of winning and maybe experiment a little in games we would be expected to lose. Ramsdale Sugawara ABK Bednarek Taylor Downes Ugochukwu Dibling swapping with KWP (free roles but in wide positions cutting in) Onaucha/Stewart Archer. On the bench Llallana Diaz THB Fernandes Sulemana Fraser Smallbone Cornet McCarthy/ Bazunu. In December sell AA Aribo Manning Lumley Stephens and Loan Larios Edwards Amo. Keep Bree Wood as cover players. That would bring in about 8 million in sales but save 300, 000 a week in wages and employer NI contributions. The loans, including Charles and Edozie, are players who need first team football and should return in 2025 better players for the experience.
In December bring in an experienced striker in his early to mid thirties to help the team.
1.) 19 Sep 2024 14:41:08
There is so much frustration in so many of our posts, and yours 2408 has hit the nail on the proverbial head.
I am shocked at how bad RM is at the fundamentals of football.
If his footballing brain matched his rhetoric, we’d be European Champions… but having said that, his words are quite simply drivel, self indulging nonsense. He is watching a different game to all of us.
Added to that his team selection is very personal, he picks players he likes rather than for football reasons.
His substitutions are without reason.
I really don’t know what else to say. We all knew his tactics wouldn’t work in the EPL, we are seeing the evidence . but he still carries on regardless.
He may have changed this up recently, but wrong players in wrong positions playing the wrong tactics .
And he NEVER adjusts tactics throughout the game.
He needs to go now …
His belief in himself and his way, far outweighs Southampton FC .
His ego is all that matters . and the rhetoric makes Jones’ nonsense look rather less nonsense . and that’s saying something!
Get big Paul in . get ABK in .
2.) 19 Sep 2024 15:49:14
Surely they should at least give some sort of reason as to why ABK isn’t getting anywhere. There must be something going on in the background.
I don’t except a personality issue as that’s the managers job to manage that. Clues in his title.
If he has been exiled for that reason then the manager has failed doing his job.
If it’s something to do with an underlying injury and we are hoping to keep him fit and ship him out surely staying in the premier league is more important financially then getting £10m in for him in the January transfer window. Nothing makes sense.
3.) 19 Sep 2024 15:53:33
Also he talked about loyalty and loving some of the players who got us promoted in his recent press conference.
We have no time for that now.
Pick the best team.
29 Aug 2024 05:00:22
RM has said that ABK is sixth choice centre back and likely to leave. It's got to be his attitude because it's certainly not his ability on the pitch! He is by far our quickest centre back and an outstanding one on one ball winner. Makes no sense to mug him away and then play Stephens or Edwards who do look out of their depth for the premier league. Edwards had a very poor game against Cardiff, Wood did ok and Taylor was very solid.Ramsdale signing is a real necessity but the overall package is eye watering and is still subject to Arsenal signing a replacement. My starting lineup: Ramsdale Sugawara Bednarek HB Taylor Downes Ugochukwu Fernandes KWP ( free role) Diaz Archer ( both central). Mix up the bench, sell Onaucha ( if Stewart is definitely going to be fit this time). Edozie ( until Christmas) Manning Edwards Dibling on loan to championship clubs for much needed game time. If we get Yuri then I would sell AA whilst his value is still reflected in his goals last season, he will not cut it in premier league .
1.) 29 Aug 2024 07:36:02
Abk is 100% our best defender, there must be another reason why we are so desperate to sell him, we are not getting mega bucks for him, he fits the martin profile of "future proofing" the club. He is injury prone, but he is head and shoulders above woods, edwards, Taylor, HWB, Stephens and for me even better than kwp. Would love to see him force his way back into things.
2.) 29 Aug 2024 08:09:38
Maybe you've hit the nail on the head with his injury record. Have the medical team seen something they are concerned about in the future and want to get rid while we can? . Let's not forget he has failed a medical this summer.
3.) 29 Aug 2024 08:26:13
ABK 6th choice is a ridiculous statement. I had resigned myself to him going but it is a crazy decision to lose one of our best CBs. 1 injury and we could be in trouble.
Edwards could be good if we drop to the Championship but if we go to a back 4 now, he could do with a loan. Edozie and Manning too. Keep Dibling for me. I would keep AA though I agree with your point. He would be very useful for us if we are relegated and may chip in a few now.
The side is taking shape. Would love a striker if we have the funds. Ramsdale will get us 5+ points.
4.) 29 Aug 2024 11:21:12
SaintKenny
I assume so as Hoffenheim were set to buy him however he had an issue with his medical which lead them wanting a cheaper price or pulling out of negotiations.
I still would play ABK he's miles clear of Stephens he may be injury prone but I watched him defend against Ronaldo and he was doing amazing so I got faith in the guy that he still would be a really good center back
5.) 29 Aug 2024 16:18:25
When did he say this?
18 Aug 2024 10:37:09
Buying Fernandez for 15 mill when we have desperate need of a goalkeeper and big centre forward? This one was kept very quiet and smacks of desperation. If Stewart isn't going to be fit and they're intent on selling Onaucha they MUST get a proper 6 foot plus centre forward! Thought the centre backs, wing backs first half and centre midfield were very good against Newcastle. The problems started with the withdrawal of Sugawara and reverting to 433 formation. I felt sorry for Edozie, he was expected to be the source of supply to the forwards so Newcastle doubled up on him all the time. He did give Livramento a tough afternoon and has undoubtedly got great feet but he is not the only answer. Armstrong was really poor no diagonal runs or spins behind the centre backs. Diaz did ok but was wasted wide, he needed to be more central which would have allowed the excellent KWP more space to work in. It's a shame because there were points for us yesterday, RM has GOT to quicken his style when within 30 yards of opponents goal.
1.) 18 Aug 2024 12:21:56
You’re right - it defies logic. There is no strategy.
We need a GK - plain and simple. McCarthy cost us a point yesterday in a season when every point will be hard to come by. It was not a one-off mistake and he will concede more howlers if he continues in goal. It is insane that we haven’t signed someone of Ramsdale’s quality even if we have to pay £25-30M. That would be far better value for money and give us a far better chance of survival.
2.) 18 Aug 2024 22:13:30
I am scratching my head with Fernandez too. I assume that is a replacement for Alcaraz or competition/cover for Smallbone.
Alcaraz was our 3rd highest scorer in our last prem season behind JWP and Che and highest for goals per minute. Would hit 10 goals this season if get him back to his best. Hope the scouts see something special, this looks a risk
GK must be priority 1. I remember Niemi pulling off worldies in key games to keep us up many years ago. Need somebody like that for us now.
14 Aug 2024 23:00:09
No chance of McAtee on loan now Bobb has broken his leg. ?
29 May 2024 11:29:23
Chris Wood could be a great free signing. He's averaged a goal every 3 premier league games for the last 5 years, his record for Forest was excellent. Give him a 2 year contract, great impact player with bags of experience and steel. Not sure about Lallana coming back as a first team player, he is definitely past his best but would be brilliant for the changing room and moral throughout the club. Would like to see Broja back and maybe Ings, were going to need 4/5 goal scorers to compete next season.
1.) 29 May 2024 22:34:51
Agreed. I just hope Sports Republic do not try to play it too smart, like before. We can take a few punts but when it comes to CB, back up DM, GK and strikers we need proven players at this level like Chris Wood.
I believe Lallana speaks Spanish, so if Alcaraz did return, he could be a great role model for him as a fellow CAM and good for the dressing room.
@2408, do you think it is worth recruiting some promising championship players like Jack Clarke, Gnoto, Szmodics. Is this pragmatic or lacking ambition?
2.) 31 May 2024 05:39:52
It’s almost a blank canvas presented for Saints rebuild.Some very interesting names are being bandied about (and seemingly cash not a restriction) I only hope we take full advantage and don’t go down previous rabbit holes.It makes me quite nervous reading reports of interest in two ageing ex SFC players who have had their day in the Sun and both spent recent times either injured or bench warmers for teams we should be challenging next season.Russell Martin has the perfect opportunity to sign young and energetic quality players who can drive us up the EPL.
3.) 31 May 2024 08:58:55
Yes, I hope lessons have been learnt and we get some trusted players in key positions before playing moneyball.
I am in favour of Lallana returning but not as a starter. A leader in the middle of the field to see out the last 20 mins could be valuable.
I believe he speaks Spanish, so also an asset for Alacaraz or any possession skilled La Liga players.
30 Aug 2024 12:26:38
Forest are paying a huge loan fee and all wages for JWP, even more than Ramsdale wages! It’s all last minute and a rush, can’t understand the logic. Get your squad sorted before first game of season! Anyway, looks like a few are leaving and 2/3 coming in.
29 Aug 2024 22:01:19
Sorry, Corinthians!
26 Aug 2024 21:04:52
Charly is a very talented player but he does lack possession discipline in key areas on the pitch. He will excel at slightly lower standard leagues and in time may well adjust his cavalier style and become an established international and maybe a regular fixture in a top premier league club. Saints don’t have the luxury of giving him time, when playing RMs system he gets caught on the ball too many times which will be punished at the highest level. It is a great shame that, for Charly, RM is manager. If Ralph, Koeman and even Jones were manager he would be playing in a different more explosive style of play which would more suit him.
23 Aug 2024 16:08:13
Alcaraz and ABK will cover what’s been spent. Alcaraz is a free spirit not suited to arms regimented system.
21 Aug 2024 19:10:31
There is no intel re signing another striker. I think a lot will depend on whether Onaucha stays and Stewart is genuinely close to full fitness. Keeper appears to be main focal point atm.
03 Sep 2024 09:23:51
The highest standard of football needs the most gameplan variables for a team to be successful. To stop the high press you must have a long ball game, both straight and diagonal. Diagonal stops opponents full backs pushing on and straight, when you have strikers with pace, stops centre backs pressing which in turn allows the opponents defensive midfield to advance. It really isn’t rocket science but a team cannot be one dimensional in the premier league or they will be found out very stand relegated. The Newcastle game would have been scrutinised by every other premier league team’s analysts, their observations would have been passed on to the coaching team and a way to defeat us would have been formulated in hours. It’s simple, stop this one dimensional nonsense or be relegated by end of October!
01 Sep 2024 00:16:12
The sad thing is this is like de ja vu 12 months ago. RM turned it around then but we weren’t playing against world class players and coaches week in week out. If he keeps with the current shape system and certain players we will not win enough games to survive relegation. I think we have to be careful with Dibling and Amo and play them sparingly, don’t want to break their confidence by throwing them intl defeat after defeat. I think the squad is not far off being good enough to stay up with the guidance of a good manager. RM change or leave, it’s as simple as that.
31 Aug 2024 16:20:12
RM won’t change his allegiances! AA should have been sold end of last season. ABK come back… don’t care if you’re awkward… you can play!
28 Aug 2024 09:15:05
We don’t need any more wingers unless Fraser finally arrives as he can play a variety of positions. What is the clubs obsession with wingers, they’re no good unless you have central strikers! For the record, Diaz never played left wing for Blackburn, he played to the left of Gallagher or as a centre forward. RM implied he was a left winger in his recent interview which is definitely not the case.
25 Aug 2024 15:12:30
After yesterday’s performance I too have grave doubts where 3 points are coming from. I think we could just about stay up with our squad plus a very competent keeper and a fit Stewart or a new proper centre forward. Personally, I would persevere with Archer Brereton Edozie Sulemana Amo, AA will never be premier league quality and should be allowed to leave this transfer window.