Current Avatar:
No Avatar image uploaded
No Avatar image uploaded
Southampton Rumours Member Posts
lesleee's Profile
lesleee's Posts and Other Poster's Replies To lesleee's Posts
To lesleee's last 5 rumours posts
To lesleee's last 5 banter posts
To lesleee's last 5 rumour replies
To lesleee's last 5 banter replies
lesleee's rumours posts with other poster's replies to lesleee's rumours posts
15 Sep 2024 13:42:45
lesleee has written an article entitled, Current Thoughts On Southampton FC
12 May 2024 20:48:11
Positives from today is; well for mez its all positive. Mainly because I didn't/don't think we'd win the playoffs and at the moment we're still in a good position .and second positive is whatever were feeling after the result today all the fans of the other 3 teams will be feeling the same as results were same for everyone across the board. We can't be critical if everyone did the same thing. Friday is a fresh start.
1.) 13 May 2024 16:20:27
Completely agree. An away draw is a reasonable result and we should be confident playing at home on Friday.
I watchd the Leeds game highlights on their YouTube channel and it was interesting to read their fans believing they will bottle the playoffs.
So nobody is blowing anybody away and we have a very good chance.
13 Apr 2024 21:44:50
I'm all for the positivity and believe me I am trying lol but I'm still not optimistic about automatic.
Yes it is technically possible again now but we've been riding our luck too hard to get where we are right now. The teams above us have all dropped massive points but we having capitalized on that nearly enough.
The main factor will be when we face them. They're away games and Leicester and Leeds will both up their games and show their promotion form when playing against us. When it comes to ruthlessness and not conceeding when it matters I can't honestly say we've got it in us. Maybe if we start playing Lumley.
I'm going to be positive though, go with the flow and hope for the fairytale lol . Here's hoping for automatic ?
18 Aug 2023 12:14:00
If we let Che Adams go then we're showing no desire/ambition to return to the premier league. I get the majority of the other exits, big value players and fringe players. Che though isn't either. He's definitely class and that's why people are bidding for him obviously but he's a player the club SHOULD be able to keep hold of.
He's a proven goal scorer, even more so in this league and goals are part of the recipe you need for success. The valuation I'm hearing at 10M for him too is ridiculous. I don't rate Adam Armstrong (recent goals were penalties) .and any replacement for Che would be looking to cover the goals he would have certainly got us and there's no guarantee the replacement will .it's madness.
With all this outgoings as well we fans have to be aware that the club is a business. The new owners bought the club for whatever sum of money, the sell of players/assets covers their expenditure whilst netting them a tidy profit. As a business they've just made some nice money, so there's always the possibility that we're here to languish in the championship now whilst our former team is stripped for parts.
1.) 19 Aug 2023 20:55:38
The skill that Adams has is intelligence . he has the Danny Ings/lambert ability to hold and then move into space space at the last moment .
makes him impossible to play, IF our players anticipate his movement .
Three pure poachers goals in three games!
Tella has two great feet, knows where the goal is, bags of confidence!
Adam A . not an intelligent player, hasn’t progressed as a player . love to see Dom Ballard being given a chance over AA
27 Apr 2023 19:15:10
Armstrong instead of Suleman .wtaf! : (:/:#
McCarthy in for bazuna, whilst I do think bazuna needs some time off, he might be decent one day but has been in the firing line too much this season, replacing him with McCarthy is NOT any better. I'd rather keep bazuna in and hope he finds form . McCarthy is just a shower of rubbish and forever will be.
lesleee's banter posts with other poster's replies to lesleee's banter posts
04 Jan 2025 22:36:55
I'm over here sipping from my "Can't get any worse glass"
Cheers ????
1.) 06 Jan 2025 07:54:32
I wouldn't say it had got worse but it may not be any better at present. But at least Juric calls it how we all see it and doesn't come out with delusional comments after a loss like that. With the players at his disposal at the weekend this was the probably outcome.
2.) 06 Jan 2025 12:05:59
I'm talking long term Saint Kenny and the fact that so many people here thought the sacking of RM was going to change anything.
I would have been onboard with you all if I wasn't sure that the replacement was going to be an Ivan Juric type and that's exactly what we got.
With one or two exceptions we had pretty much our first team playing.
The Brentford game was a fair enough point to start judging him on his solo managerial merits. You could argue that the first couple of games the managerial bounce/old habits/not enough time with team were factors ect. But by the Brentford game and with it being a home game I think we had warrant to hope/expect a draw, possibly even hope for a win.
That's if this change was made for any positive change. If there is zero change then you have to ask what was the change for. Fans will slowly come to the realization that we're in the championship next season, then you have to ask yourself is Ivan Juric the man you want to get you through it, for me no. I think the board will take the majority of the championship season to realize it, until they appoint the next guy which by that point means we're finish mid table at best.
This was the method in my perceived madness from you all. I wanted RM to succeed, sure and with a few additions here and there I think he might have. Then when the writing was on the wall I was sticking with him because of the likewise replacement. RM would get us promoted from the championship, of that I'm sure. Experience, time with the players and club, what worked what didn't ect.
In my opinion the club should have stuck with him through relegation and spent the time in the championship looking for the right Premier league manager to replace him when we got promoted.
3.) 06 Jan 2025 20:40:53
Lesleee your post is making a huge assumption that RM would have 100% of achieved promotion. How can you make such a guarantee? We had the squad to finish top 2 and if not for injuries forcing his hand, we may not have.
Things are not any worse and at least it is refreshing for the manager to not blame players, fans, var decisions etc.
What ever the answer is, it is not and was not RM
4.) 06 Jan 2025 22:10:19
It's assumptions based on facts . evidence based assumptions, which aren't really assumptions backed up in such a way.
We currently have a manager who was sacked by the SAME club THREE times and everything we've seen so far is testament to that.
I never quoted RM as being a good premier league manager, I hoped with youth on his side he would adapt and grow, alas that's a different story. However managers and players have strengths and weaknesses.
Take Adam Armstrong for example, completely useless in the premier league yet any championship team would bite your hand off for him. Frank Lampard and Gerrard ect .useless as premier league managers, but have enough about them to manage a team in the lesser leagues.
We rolled the dice sacking RM but it should never have been a dice roll. It should have been a clear thought out choice for who we need. I knew that would happen (our board keep doing it) so keeping RM for the championship only would have been an astute bit of business.
The players that underperformed this season would have played better under him next season. His whole transfer policy is around knowing decent championship/English players. I think he's on his element in the championship and we could have/should have taken advantage of that and then sacked him when we got promoted again
5.) 07 Jan 2025 16:03:01
Couldn’t agree less that RM would have got us promoted, and if he did why would he 2nd time around change his failing style?
I agree RM should have either stayed until the end of the season, or been replaced by the manager we wanted to bring them straight back up and grow in the PL. it was all left too late for survival.
And to say the Brentford game was when Juric should have it all figured out is madness! We have all seen the standard of the team and the mentality that seems to be throughout, they are all in a looser mindset, you don’t just break this level of poor immediately. He needs time and a couple of new faces, I imagine he hoped bringing some in from the cold would help, but they are serial underperformers too. We are never going to stay up, 12 points should be the target to reduce the laughing.
Next season, let’s see, maybe Juric will want a bite at the championship?
6.) 07 Jan 2025 22:57:33
Th3medic you point to the larger problem that was there all along, External factors.
Only when a manager is sacked and the same problems persist under the new manager do fans see it.
A new coach is supposed to be a force for change, otherwise what was the point in changing. If he loses every game between now at the end of the season, what exactly was the point in him. Exactly how many games to you give him until he's supposed to have had any influence on our team? Man utd will be his 4th proper game with us (an FA cup game is pointless, win lose or draw it gives fans false hope) .
Nothing I've seen of Juric shows me he has any managerial qualities, I don't see how he is a coach let alone succeed in the championship.
By the time fans and the board realize that, promotion will have slipped by.
Ill bite my tongue for now but I guarantee you that at least one amongst the people in here next year will say something along the lines of "I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually wish RM was still here as at least we'd be battling for promotion"
Wait and see.
7.) 08 Jan 2025 14:15:34
Not from me you won’t Lesleee!
Like you, I do not, and never did feel Judic was the answer. He has no stature or presence about him and he cuts a ridiculous figure on the touchline.
How he got through an interview process is baffling.
However, and please pay attention Lesleee, you cannot use this as a means of annulling the anti RM position most of us hold.
They are both useless, but in different ways. As fans, we deserved a proper managerial appointment - not more of the same.
8.) 08 Jan 2025 21:08:51
Please do start biting your tongue, I think we all would enjoy that. You talk about external factors as if you’re the only one who recognises them! I have read many threads already about these issues, please stop pretending to be the messiah with future vision, it doesn’t suit.
9.) 08 Jan 2025 23:08:48
So based on your logic, assumptions based on evidence…. Luton were correct to keep their manager as they will be promoted this season, because he done it last time. I believe Luton are 5th bottom, facing relegation again.
Might need to re think that one
10.) 09 Jan 2025 17:51:10
Lesleeee did you ever appear topless in top shelf mags? Your love for RM is blind.
He was a stubborn manager, whose opinion of himself and his way, far exceeded his footballing brain.
Go look at his managerial position stats from all clubs.
He makes a one trick pony look like a show jumper.
Tactically inept and a very unpleasant character.
Anyway, I actually thought we might beat Brentford.
While he may nit be the man for the future, he has stopped the nonsense football we were playing.
A new manger does not normally have to eradicate an entire style of play and start again.
I hope he gets the results .
29 Dec 2024 23:35:45
2 games to pick up 5 points BigRedArmy
& Millertime, your ready to call it on that Notts Forrest bet yet ?
1.) 30 Dec 2024 11:52:04
It hurts me to say it, but yes, Forest have indeed done well - very well in fact.
However Lesleee, don’t forget, the discussion was about the JWP impact. You said Forest would do well because of him. I doubted that.
I haven’t done the stats yet (I’m sure you will) but he hasn’t had a lot of game time. He’s not a regular starter.
Forest are flying but how much if that is down to JWP is arguable - let’s wait to the end of the season.
I’m going to the away game ar Forest on 19 Jan so be sure to read my JWP assessment (if he gets a game) .
2.) 30 Dec 2024 15:48:33
No no no Leslee my friend, the 5 points in 4 games comment was to start after your educated evaluation as to how long the managerial bounce will be (just to be fair) . You said 2 games I believe? So I think it should start from now, at the risk of back tracking of corse, but I think this is the fairest way to do it. Also I’m not saying your managerial bounce comments are wrong, I think we have played a lot better. The results will come, trust me .
3.) 30 Dec 2024 23:17:13
Yea I'll give you that red. My actual post was going to start along the lines of Brentford being true start of the test for Juric. Managerial bounce (whether you believe it's a thing ect) should be gone by then and he's had enough time and games to get to grip with what he wants, how to play and what we can expect from him. I think (even though Brentford are a decent team) if the Juric switch was meant as force for positive change we're aloud to hope for a win and at the least, expect a draw. Anything less and you have to start questioning the change .but as you were BigRedArmy .5 points from the next for games to see if he/there is any actual change/points on the board.
You have a good memory Miller. Yea it was largely down to JWP. My thinking was that whilst many don't like him and see him as one dimensional, I was looking at our team and seeing what he has to offer and when I looked I saw his dead ball delivery as a standout amongst our average players. We have little to no goal threat and it has shown in our lack of goals, arguably you could say with JWP we would have had at least one potential outlet. Factor that in with the tallest player in the Premier league and you see my reasoning for bringing him back. True Forrest have not used/needed him but it's the fact that they signed him, whilst none others did that made me think they were going to finish high. Its shrewd thinking to have a clinical dead ball specialist amongst your ranks and if your team is able to cover the pitfalls that JWP lacks then your are rewarded with some magical/game breaking moments. A bit like Le Tiss. I don't think I ever saw him back track .but then again, he also did things that others couldn't. Not that I'm comparing the two, but it's finding the balance ⚖️
22 Dec 2024 07:39:17
{Ed's Note - lesleee has posted a new article entitled, Will Ivan Juric Get Southampton FC Relegated?
21 Dec 2024 17:16:52
lesleee has written an article entitled, Will Ivan Juric Get Southampton FC Relegated?
20 Dec 2024 13:04:54
Not at all Miller/Slondon.
The point of my post and all my other posts is that the vocal amongst you have ALWAYS put the blame on RM.
I never once claimed him to be a great manager, in fact from the off I was wary of him. However unlike you guys my upmost concern was stability. I can see the type of board we have and the current crop of players we had and unlike you guys I never lived in dreamland where we would appoint some incredible talent of a manager who was able to get blood from a stone.
It's the standard football fan mentality to shout sack the manager and tell the players to work harder with more passion and somehow that win games, like that's all you need to survive relegation and move up the table .get the news out to all the lower table teams guys, we've cracked it ?
I see past petty fickleness, I see 40/50% it be ing RMs fault, with the rest being sub-par players, recruitment, VAR decisions, injuries and bad luck.
The thing with you guys is you backtrack, hence my point of putting my money where my mouth is and yours is, to help you own your convictions. You say RM was lucky for getting us promoted maybe he was/maybe he wasn't.but the fact is he DID. So if we do/when get relegated we should have spent that time having him get us back up whilst looking for a decent Premiership manager. Now however we've rolled the dice and there's no guarantees that A) it will save us from relegation and B) we will get promoted back. and if we do languish down the lower leagues for some time then it will be with a sense of foreboding for you guys.
I remember when we were in the championship and a lot of fans were discussing maybe it was too soon to go up with players/recruitment ect. Others were calling it blasphemy for thinking that way and yet here we are, too soon.
Own your convictions.
1.) 20 Dec 2024 16:22:56
The style of play is the problem and RM did not want to change. It is not a way of playing that can keep promoted clubs in the Premier League. So even if he got us promoted again, it would be the same problem on repeat.
Change was needed and it should have been done much earlier. Recruitment is also an issue. We now need to find a style that suits the strengths of the players who will stick around and can grind out results. Then we can recruit to fit this new winning style.
The previous strategy was understandable. Burnley just dominated the Championship with this way, Wilcox had the Man City connections to get us players, who have been trained this way and top clubs would be happy to loan us players as they knew we would develop their possession game.
Then Burnley flopped, we flopped and pundits agreed this style does not work for small clubs in a big league. Time to adapt.
The heart and passion is not just nonsense. When your team is technically inferior, sometimes grit, hard work, organization and tenacity is the only way you can get an edge.
2.) 20 Dec 2024 16:39:02
Oh dear, Leslee you really have no manners or respect for fellow Saints fans on this forum, do you.
I have never backtracked on any of my assertions and I stand by my conviction that RM was a deluded idiot who has taken us to the brink of certain relegation.
I have also said that I fear for the next appointment - we need a manager with PL experience even if it is a 6 month fix and then reset.
So, don’t attribute comments to me which I have never said or even thought.
You sound like you’re a very sad angry man so loosen up and enjoy some festive cheer.
3.) 20 Dec 2024 19:58:32
personroversial Lesleee strikes again. I don’t know why you all give him the attention he so desperately seeks.
03 Jan 2024 20:57:11
I never said anything about Stephen's, your point was is KWP bett up the pitch .you said no.
Just because the modern game is more fast "pep-esque" demand more from players in certain positions doesn't mean certain players can't play in places. I agree Stephens isn't a great right back, but I've got nothing against mixing it up . because KWP from day one has always been an attacking full back, not a defensive one .so to argue his defensive attributes are better than his forward play is bizarre. Fraser is ok on the wing, but I'll think your find he's more suited to a Stuey Armstrong roll, attacking midfielder.
02 Jan 2024 12:23:32
I disagree with KWP comment, I'd argue he's better as an attacking winger then he is a defender .at the least he's best in both positions. It's his pace and agility that ables him to get up the pitch but also get back, track and close down players and he's shown time and time again that he's willing to that roll no matter how far up the pitch he plays .so why wouldn't you play in further up?
In relation to other wingers I wouldn't say we have any natural wingers like KWP. Fraser and Sulamana aren't as good on the wing. Fraser isn't as fast and Sulamana although fast hasn't got the consistency KWP has. KWP also has the ability to cut inside and score with the best of them.
So all in all, saying KWP is not effective higher up the pitch is complete bonkers. He's one of our main threats that actually looks to move the ball forward and direct to goal. Sure he's a decent full back/defender but he's an even better winger.
25 Feb 2023 23:14:33
Nope, twas a sober post and one can still be dignified and articulate whilst using the phrase "suck dick" . In todays day and age it simply relates to some loving a person that much.
My point remains though . Fans that were calling for Ralphs head are now cheering for any meagre success. I'm certain Ralph, at the very least would have kept us up this season and though Selles is a more of a positive since Jones (though let's be fair, anyone would have been) . I think his inexperience will be the too much to save us.
The fact is football is filled with fickle fans, from all clubs and fans never seen to take account for a lot of the rubbish they chant/demand and post on online and social media.
People say Ralph lost the dressing room, yet all I've ever read from actual players and pundits alike is how well he was respected there.
All fans here (I include myself in this) think we know what's what but the reality is that if any of us were given the saints job we'd be no better than Nathan Jones.
And so now, we've got an inexperienced manager trying to manage us out of a relegation battle, who has taken over from a guy who was completely clueless who job was also to save and improve us who was brought in to take over from a guy has kept us at the least stable and more exciting than the managers before him.
Fans forget that were Southampton a lot of the time .no matter how good we start to get other teams will always poach our players/staff. I don't believe in the phrase "a selling club" as saints are one that seem to get labeled with it as well.at the end of the day we're a stepping stone for players and clubs because as soon as someone has success here they can resist moving on . I'm saying this because of we had players here still like mane, shaw, van dyk, hoijberg, ings ect than we wouldn't be in a relegation battle. We can't and never will keep these players and so were left trying to replace them until we end up with sub-par players like djenpo, Adam Armstrong, lyanco ect.
Soo, the reality is accepting our place in the food chain whilst looking for ray of hopes. Ralph was a ray of hope because he genuinely looked like he was happy to stay and try and build something. Fickle fans gave hime the boot though .and thus, here we are.
24 Feb 2023 18:49:28
Selles is a breathe of fresh air . So we can hold you to that when your inevitably calling for his head next season?
Fact is, Selles ain't going to do much more than at absolute best maybe, maybe keep us up. Then next season the bricks will begin to fall. It's only fans that seem to have this thing about Ralph. Players and pundits have all gave admiration for what he did for us.
People are sucking selles dick after one game due to him being a better fit than Jones, to which the saints fan are accountable for to somewhat for asking for change. We're see how far that breathe of fresh air takes us after a few games . Point is, if your praising Selles at the end of the season for barely keeping us up .then your whole thing about Ralph is pretty pointless
07 Jan 2025 22:57:33
Th3medic you point to the larger problem that was there all along, External factors.
Only when a manager is sacked and the same problems persist under the new manager do fans see it.
A new coach is supposed to be a force for change, otherwise what was the point in changing. If he loses every game between now at the end of the season, what exactly was the point in him. Exactly how many games to you give him until he's supposed to have had any influence on our team? Man utd will be his 4th proper game with us (an FA cup game is pointless, win lose or draw it gives fans false hope) .
Nothing I've seen of Juric shows me he has any managerial qualities, I don't see how he is a coach let alone succeed in the championship.
By the time fans and the board realize that, promotion will have slipped by.
Ill bite my tongue for now but I guarantee you that at least one amongst the people in here next year will say something along the lines of "I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually wish RM was still here as at least we'd be battling for promotion"
Wait and see.
06 Jan 2025 22:10:19
It's assumptions based on facts . evidence based assumptions, which aren't really assumptions backed up in such a way.
We currently have a manager who was sacked by the SAME club THREE times and everything we've seen so far is testament to that.
I never quoted RM as being a good premier league manager, I hoped with youth on his side he would adapt and grow, alas that's a different story. However managers and players have strengths and weaknesses.
Take Adam Armstrong for example, completely useless in the premier league yet any championship team would bite your hand off for him. Frank Lampard and Gerrard ect .useless as premier league managers, but have enough about them to manage a team in the lesser leagues.
We rolled the dice sacking RM but it should never have been a dice roll. It should have been a clear thought out choice for who we need. I knew that would happen (our board keep doing it) so keeping RM for the championship only would have been an astute bit of business.
The players that underperformed this season would have played better under him next season. His whole transfer policy is around knowing decent championship/English players. I think he's on his element in the championship and we could have/should have taken advantage of that and then sacked him when we got promoted again
06 Jan 2025 12:05:59
I'm talking long term Saint Kenny and the fact that so many people here thought the sacking of RM was going to change anything.
I would have been onboard with you all if I wasn't sure that the replacement was going to be an Ivan Juric type and that's exactly what we got.
With one or two exceptions we had pretty much our first team playing.
The Brentford game was a fair enough point to start judging him on his solo managerial merits. You could argue that the first couple of games the managerial bounce/old habits/not enough time with team were factors ect. But by the Brentford game and with it being a home game I think we had warrant to hope/expect a draw, possibly even hope for a win.
That's if this change was made for any positive change. If there is zero change then you have to ask what was the change for. Fans will slowly come to the realization that we're in the championship next season, then you have to ask yourself is Ivan Juric the man you want to get you through it, for me no. I think the board will take the majority of the championship season to realize it, until they appoint the next guy which by that point means we're finish mid table at best.
This was the method in my perceived madness from you all. I wanted RM to succeed, sure and with a few additions here and there I think he might have. Then when the writing was on the wall I was sticking with him because of the likewise replacement. RM would get us promoted from the championship, of that I'm sure. Experience, time with the players and club, what worked what didn't ect.
In my opinion the club should have stuck with him through relegation and spent the time in the championship looking for the right Premier league manager to replace him when we got promoted.
30 Dec 2024 23:17:13
Yea I'll give you that red. My actual post was going to start along the lines of Brentford being true start of the test for Juric. Managerial bounce (whether you believe it's a thing ect) should be gone by then and he's had enough time and games to get to grip with what he wants, how to play and what we can expect from him. I think (even though Brentford are a decent team) if the Juric switch was meant as force for positive change we're aloud to hope for a win and at the least, expect a draw. Anything less and you have to start questioning the change .but as you were BigRedArmy .5 points from the next for games to see if he/there is any actual change/points on the board.
You have a good memory Miller. Yea it was largely down to JWP. My thinking was that whilst many don't like him and see him as one dimensional, I was looking at our team and seeing what he has to offer and when I looked I saw his dead ball delivery as a standout amongst our average players. We have little to no goal threat and it has shown in our lack of goals, arguably you could say with JWP we would have had at least one potential outlet. Factor that in with the tallest player in the Premier league and you see my reasoning for bringing him back. True Forrest have not used/needed him but it's the fact that they signed him, whilst none others did that made me think they were going to finish high. Its shrewd thinking to have a clinical dead ball specialist amongst your ranks and if your team is able to cover the pitfalls that JWP lacks then your are rewarded with some magical/game breaking moments. A bit like Le Tiss. I don't think I ever saw him back track .but then again, he also did things that others couldn't. Not that I'm comparing the two, but it's finding the balance ⚖️
24 Dec 2024 22:01:57
It must be Christmas if people are agreeing with me, even slightly lol.
With RM I could see the joke he was, but he has some me things on his side. Age for one .there's always a slim chance he would learn/adapt. People like Moyes, alladyce, Mourinho.names all people were throwing in the ring are old dogs. Sure they've got it experience to maybe save us but they haven't got what it takes to evolve/merge into what today's football is turning into. It's why they keep getting sacked and why the same fans asking for them would be calling for their sack a year later.
The other thing RM is pretty much guaranteed promotion. I know we rode out luck the first time. But the experience of getting it done the first time and the battle hardened experience of the premiere league would have helped him.
We don't have any guarantees now as far as I can see. Although I will put my hand up for one exception/unknown quantity.and that is wether Juric can bring Bella-kotcha into the fold and getting him playing at his best. Him on form and Ramsdale does make for a half decent defense.