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10 Jul 2022 22:27:59
Am I late to the party on the news that Saints are interested in Moussa Dembele?
Now he is a 20 goal a season forward IMO and along with Aribo we could look quite strong in attack.
At a cut price 10 mil (he's only 26) this could be the sort of quality we're all hoping for.
I just have this horrible feeling that one of you guys are going to bring me down to earth by saying he's off to Newcastle or wherever!


1.) 16 Jul 2022 19:29:42
Biggest worry if we got him is he could turn out to be similar to Osvaldo, great player who believes he is above us.



29 Jun 2022 11:54:23
So. newsflash from Southampton FC to my email account with headline, "You're going to want to see this!"

New player being announced I hoped . no, the new Saints home shirt.

Let's put more effort into getting players wearing the shirt than redesigning a perfectly good red and white striped shirt with a pillar box down the middle.


1.) 29 Jun 2022 20:09:32
What are you moaning about? We’re less than 3 weeks into the transfer window with two players signed, 22 million spent and at least another two who are joining imminently

Literally cannot please Southampton fans

2.) 29 Jun 2022 22:49:26
New shirt is pants!
Signings are pants too - 2 keepers and (another) young centre back. I can hardly contain my excitement! Before you say that the centre back comes from the Bundesliga, I would remind you that that's where Vestergaard came from. We are still not addressing the problem of no proven goal scorer. WE NEED A STRIKER WHO CAN SCORE IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE

3.) 29 Jun 2022 22:52:33
But what have we got for 22 million? Goalkeeper (x2) and a young centre back. Not going to keep us up, sorry.

4.) 30 Jun 2022 12:31:28
I think you're going to be very disappointed then Peter, a lot of the players we are linked with are being plucked straight from the big 6's youth academy's. This seems to be our transfer strategy.

I don't think we're going to get a striker "that can score in the Premier League" or at least a striker that's already been there and done that.

Spurs have just spent £50m on Richarilson, an experienced PL striker. But the most goals he's ever scored in a season is 13.
I don't think there aren't actually that many out and out proven PL strikers that will score 15+ goals a season. If there were they wouldn't come to Southampton.

Trust the board, trust the process. We're not a top 10 side, we're not a side that will get consistently get into Europe. We lucked out a few seasons ago under Keoman and I think that's because the quality of the squad was so much better than it is now. Look at what some of the players have gone onto achieve.

Fonte - Captain of Lille, went on to win the French League at 36
VVD - Regarding as the best CB in the world
Alderweireld - consistently helped Spurs finish in the top 4
Davis - Still playing at Rangers who got to the Europa league final
Tadic - He's putting up ridiculous numbers in Holland and he's helped Ajax into the latter stages onto the CL.
Mane - he's won everything with Liverpool and AFCON.

Also, these players weren't household names when we signed them, they became who they are today through what they did and achieved during their time at Southampton. So don't write off the board and new players before they've even kicked a ball because we don't know what they could achieve or accomplish yet. We're not a team that can go out and easily get experienced PL players.

5.) 30 Jun 2022 12:53:19
Sainty - it’s not moaning - it’s stating the obvious and as a fan for 50 years I’m entitled to my opinion as indeed you are. We have look and few of an average championship squad as I’ve said and the £22M we’ve spent will not make much difference to the quality of the squad this year.
As has been expressed by many others who are equally entitled to their opinion - we have little up front - who’s going to score the goals we will need to stay up. Trust the Board - let’s see eh?!

6.) 30 Jun 2022 20:28:11
This is a *new* board, it’s their first summer and so far they’ve been proactive, revamping the coaching staff and buying (so far) two of the most highly rated youth players in Europe with another two lined up. Without btw, selling any of our current players first

Last season the quality of the squad wasn’t the issue - proven by the fact that between December and March we were the most in form team besides city, losing just twice. The issue was squad depth - injuries and fatigue caught up and cost us

Yes it would be lovely to buy a proven 10/15/20 goal a season striker but as saintjay pointed out transfer fee wise that’s not realistic in the current market and as one of the ed’s pointed out before the club are very close to their financial fair play limits so even if they had £50+ million to blow on a striker they couldn’t offer them the wages they’d want anyway

7.) 01 Jul 2022 23:51:01
I see it differently to you Sainty although I accept that your point about the Board being new is valid.
However, I think the lack of quality and depth was a problem - each season our starting eleven gets weaker. We no longer have anyone who is world class like Mane, VVD - we hardly have anyone of true international class ( I wouldn’t count S Armstrong or McAdams as quality internationals). JWP and KWP are fringe internationals.
So I ask you Sainty - how many of our players would get starting places in the top 17 sides last season?
Probably three if you count Livramento who is potentially a top player.
The trouble is, if we are to compete we MUST invest in goals, one way or the other. It may mean making some difficult choices but we need to get rid of the likes of Walcott and one or two others to reduce the wage bill so we can attract players.
We have plenty of excuses/reasons as to why we are going to struggle but if we don’t change things we will start the new season as we finished the last. In our last 7 or 8 games we picked up just 5 points wasn’t it?

8.) 03 Jul 2022 07:04:52
SURPRISE- The Season may potentially be shaping up With Light At The End Of The Tunnel.A couple of promising class young players signed with a few more in the pipeline and especially the recruitment of much needed speciality Coaching Staff.We will probably be the Youngest Team In The League - but that’s all good (when bedded in)I would prefer to see talented Young Players (win,lose or draw) with ambition giving 100%each time rather than a few ‘Prima-Donnas’ skilled at “Disappearing”for long periods during a game-Plus Purchase Prices and wages expenditure would be considerably less.Conquer the previous history of selection problems (which now look promising)and we could set a prescedent and become the Envy of the League with future Player windfalls almost guarenteed.We need to include 2/3 Sharp Shooters!Please note I haven’t criticised Ralph Once!

9.) 03 Jul 2022 11:05:32
In the words of Alan Hanson, “you win nothing with youngsters” so let’s hope lightning strikes twice!
Love your optimism Johnnyst - here’s to the class of 22!
And well done for not knocking Ralph - he hasn’t put a foot wrong all week!

10.) 04 Jul 2022 03:18:32
Heh Millertime-appreciate your observation.Perhaps he’s taken a short holiday!



30 Apr 2022 20:31:27
Finally the penny's dropped - I actually get it now. simply put, we are just not good enough at this level to be anything other than predictably inconsistent and more often than not, mediocre to middling. It's as simple as that.

Having endured another underwhelming 90+ minutes we were shown up by a Palace side who were more hungry, quicker to the ball and quicker in their heads.
Technically speaking, most of our players lack a killer first touch. Rarely do they receive the ball and spin in an instant beating their player. All too often, and I include JWP in this, they play the ball they way they are facing - safety first giving up any chance to break with pace and purpose.

We are what we are - a Championship squad with a lack of quality and depth.
In what is a pretty meaningless match, why on God's earth would you start with Shane Long (bless him) and Redmond (who I don't bless).
The good news is that we didn't turn them over by 3 or 4 goals and then get carried away by delusions that we are going to be my thing other than relegation candidates.
We need a massive overhaul.


1.) 01 May 2022 00:02:23
Poor sub-standardspectacle.The game swung in Crystal Palace’s favour in the second half following their astute substitutions which lifted their game.Patrick Viera was obviously aware that.Bednarek was having another nightmare game and sent on Zaha to capitalise on this weakness - AND HE DID. That is TWO ROOKIE COACHES who have DESTROYED US within TWO WEEKS of one another BOTH from teams BELOW us in the League at the time So where do we lay the blame next to deflect criticism? SAY NO MORE!

2.) 01 May 2022 00:56:31
Millertime and johnyst . two posters who I have enjoyed, two posters who, like me, love the club, try and post positive posts…and have finally had enough .
Today, there was no game plan, there was no structure, no tactics.
In PV we had a very clever manager, an outstanding ex player, a player that could read a game . versus Ralph . Ralph, the book! Ralph that fails to spot the basic
Of tweeks, the opponent substitutions,
Ralph ‘it was hard to accept the loss’ . why?

You were tactically inept…

It’s time that Southampton FC and RH parted company!
He has an overinflated opinion of himself… It’s a shame he’s not honest and accepts that he’s just not good enough for the Premier League

3.) 01 May 2022 03:32:11
Thanks for your support Rich and I’m sure Millertime will feel the same-it’s just a pity that all three of us have extended our hope and belief for some three years before finally succumbing to reality,

4.) 01 May 2022 05:38:01
Whilst mentioning the calibre of Patrick Viera - I for one would be very happy if he was considered by SFC for the top job at ST.MARY’S for next season. ( HERE’S HOPING)!

5.) 01 May 2022 09:34:22
The only time under Ralph the team has played well as a team, was the run of good results this season.
He pushed the wing backs up and combined each wing back with Stu and Moi. They played as a pair and combined to provide crosses, through balls and also switching play to the opposite wing.
The team yesterday was totally disjointed. The wing backs pushed up but just like the Burnley game, there was no support, or any options for them was random based on who might have wandered into that area. Tella, nice lad, but him and Redmond slow the play down.
Anyway, awful football, very poor game plan, poor player management, poor substitutions.
Why keep Redmond on and take Che off?
Ralph will be gone in the summer .

6.) 21 May 2022 17:22:37
What about these for transfers. Joe aribo and Calvin bassey rangers. Nick pope James tarkowski Burnley



08 Jan 2022 20:14:42
We never make it easy for ourselves do we!
Good result - always good to be in the hat and hopefully we can take the momentum into Tuesday's game against Brentford.




05 Jan 2022 09:15:15
Quite a bombshell to start the NY with - new owners and with that, raised expectations. To be honest, I'm not entirely sure how this will affect the club. Early statements suggest "no revolution" and business as usual because we are a "well run club".
I am cautiously optimistic that we can expect more demands for on field performance from the hierarchy as this will affect their stated ambitions for company growth - they need Saints to be successful to enhance business profile elsewhere.
I just don't know - maybe we can become less of a selling club and hang on to our prized assets. Or maybe there will be little appreciable difference from the fans' perspective.
I would be interested to hear what people think.


1.) 05 Jan 2022 21:39:51
I’d hope this will lead to something of a second black box revolution, being sensible in the market and no more Osvaldo or Ramirez buys. We do seem to be leaning into a method we experimented with a while back, buying fringe players off the bigger clubs, but unlike Lemina and Hojbjerg we now are looking at Chelsea and City having pinched KWP from Spurs as well.

I can’t see us hammering away at our transfer fee record, however unlike Gao, who unfortunately seemed to have his hands tied by the Chinese government once he bought us, we will hopefully now get investment, even if it is ‘just’ a few £10m each window, as opposed to having to always sell to buy. Small, sensible acquisitions, maybe £20m for the odd player who will become a future star.

The squad is in a decent place, we have a loan to pay off but given Gao bought us for £200m a few years ago and we are now worth £100m + £78m in debts, and the owners have the money, we should be looking up as there is in effect money spare to invest into the club.

Hopefully one or two buys this window, and kick on in the summer. For now we look ok - given Burnley, Newcastle and Norwich have won 4 times between them this season I think 34 is probably the mark, so a few more wins and we’ll be okay, then from summer onwards hopefully a better outlook for the club and city as a whole.

I’m glad we haven’t been Newcastled, I’d rather someone who would like to grow the club organically rather than sportswashing it.

2.) 06 Jan 2022 12:01:03
I'm very excited by the takeover, it has to be said. To be the staple in a football club investment strategy that looks to echo what Red Bull has done is a very exciting prospect. It'll take some time to implement and a lot could change by the time the project gets to where the owners want it to be.

That being said, in the short term, I think we'll be more stable as a club. Having investors that will want to invest in the club and the first team, to ensure its success and PL status will put us in a better position. For example, I don't think these guys will go down the route of what we make in the transfer market will dictate what we can spend in the transfer market. If they feel like that club needs the investment of new players to improve year on year, I'm sure they will help us out.

As you mentioned, I think we'll still look to be a "selling" club. Whereby we'll use our black-box method to look to unearth gems, who we can buy and sell for a substantial profit. However, with the direction of modern football and the inflation of transfer prices, I do think that if the club feels like they could buy the next big thing for a hirer price than what we're used to paying, then they might well pay that. So we might just see our transfer record broken.

3.) 07 Jan 2022 07:35:25
HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE. What a fabulous result with the Club’s takeover and future prospects therein.As per SaintGGsy recent post I tend to absolve GAO for lack of investment as the Chinese Communist Government imposed severe restrictions on any funds leaving China.However it appears the SFC now has a much brighter future and with Ramus Andersen involved at the helm which may result iin Ralph’s overall responsibilities being diluted but allowing him more time to concentrate on fine tuning the Team to achieve better results.Failure in this respect and Ralph may well be looking over his shoulder in the direction of Brentford FC.!




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16 Sep 2022 22:01:26
So whatever the opposite of man of the match is - that goes to JWP - a coward in a Saints shirt. I'm disgusted with him.

That performance didn't differ much from those inglorious 9-0 defeats - poor beyond belief.

Awful team selection and Ralph clueless as ever.

So, I call on the Ralph advocates (and we had one or two following our win against Chelsea) to state the case for why he should remain in charge. You were vocal then, have you changed your mind following the awful displays against Wolves and now Villa?

Tonight was as bad as it gets - shameful.


1.) 16 Sep 2022 22:13:35
Agree totally with millertime a very poor villa side that didn't really trouble our goalie made us look like lower championship

2.) 16 Sep 2022 22:45:31
That was quite appalling. JWP, Djenepo, Armstrong and Moi were crap. Why we aren’t starting Aribo, Mara and Edozie is beyond me. Those 3 and Che as our front four would actually be dynamic and threatening. Armstrong, Elyounoussi and Djenepo just don’t cut it.

3.) 17 Sep 2022 08:40:37
Another poor performance -another pathetic disjointed team selection.Ralph continues to shoulder any responsibility claiming the old chestnut “we are not as far along as I thought”.How many EPL Managers keep using this spin? Presumably this should all be in place after Pre-Season.I’ve said before that Ralph lacks the balls to field an untested side rather he likes the security blanket of regular players (despite their consistent poor performances in previous weeks (Elyounoussis;Diallo and Djnepo).Panic sets in when we go a goal down and after multiple substitutions ends up finishing the match with a team that are much closer to that which should have started the game and far more likely to have secured points.Finally I agree with Millertime with respect to JWP’s performance who should be ashamed and embarrassed to collect his next wages payment. Thishas emphasized the priority need for a quality forceful Midfielder in Jan.along with a new Captain with far more drive.



16 Sep 2022 21:37:42
Even Jamie Carragher is pointing out the blindingly obvious .


It's driving me nuts


1.) 16 Sep 2022 22:04:59
Not a shot on target in 95 minutes of football and moi the new managers favourite now Redmond gone another long season



16 Sep 2022 21:19:44
57th minute - did you see that pass from JWP - says it all and please God he is no where near our England team come the World Cup.

Che, you're a yard slow and Adam A you've been given your chance at a run and you're blowing it.

Mo, get off - absolute rubbish




16 Sep 2022 21:04:32
I'm writing this at halftime and can only say this is another damp squib - poor in quality and poor output.

So I will say it now, in the hope that I am proved wrong in the second half. JWP is absolutely awful - he slows us up and his corners are woeful.

Have you seen his body language at the corner stick, brushes his fringe straight with his right hand, then raises his left arm to the air, and then fails to beat either the first man or puts the ball into somewhere irrelevant. This happens week in week out . he is such a negative influence, but sadly undroppable it seems.

I would love it if JWP makes me eat my words in the second half - but I seriously doubt it




27 Aug 2022 17:11:05
So, I wasn't at the game today but watched it aboard a cruise ship in the port of Split, Croatia. The signal was poor, but from what I could make out, we were probably worth a point?

As I've long said, I begrudgingly accept defeat if we've gone down fighting and from many miles away, that was the impression I got. The boys put a shift in but didn't capitalise on the few chances that came along.

I don't think Mo showed up today and perhaps Stu should have started?

The GK and back 4, all did well IMO but it was that lack of incision in the final third which done for us.

Is that the view of the majority?

Bring on Chelsea under the lights!


{Ed014's Note - you were much the better team all over the park for me mate.

Aside from a goalmouth scramble and that ratty little cocks goal it was you who made most of the running.

How Bella-Kotchap didn’t get MOTM I’ve no idea. Gave it to that dirty little runt Martinez!?‍♂️

1.) 28 Aug 2022 11:28:20
I think that a mix of poor refereeing/ VAR decisions and a lack of a 15- 20 goals a season striker cost us at least a point and possibly all 3 points. We were by far the better team and if we can sign a prolific striker before the window shuts we can surprise a lot of teams this year.




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01 Sep 2022 23:56:13
Unbelievable final day of the window for Saints with some amazing in-comings. In all, more than £70M invested with some shrewd outgoings.

I agree with you SaintGGsy… shame that we couldn’t get in a proven 15-20 goal striker but overall the squad is far stronger at the end of the window than it was before.

When Tino regains fitness that will feel like another new player.

The only thing I don’t quite get is we apparently sold Valery for £500K - surely he’s worth £3-5M? I know he has his defensive frailties but that seems such a low valuation.

Anyway, I can’t remember saying this for many a year, but well done to the Board - they have walked the talk and clearly have high aspirations for the club.

I have previously said that I have no idea what the starting line-up should be. Tonight I have even less idea but this could be the start of a very exciting journey.

Let’s hope so, starting at Wolves on Saturday!




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25 Aug 2022 13:11:19
I would more than settle for that SaintGGsy - getting rid of the deadwood would be a big plus for the dressing room spirit




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11 Aug 2022 17:36:30
Cheers Ed, I just hope the KWP doesn’t happen. For me, he’s the most attack minded player we have, certainly one of only 2 or 3 PL standard players in the present squad.

And Tella going out on loan - unbelievable. He’s 23 now, so should be approaching the best form of his career. If only he was given a decent run.

I just don’t see how we’re going to get to 40 points without the likes of KWP and Tella, fit and available.




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11 Aug 2022 11:42:41
OMG - did Semmens really say that?

That is the biggest insult I’ve heard yet. How dare he say such a thing - outrageous. I’m sitting here livid.

Like most fans, I can accept that many of our players lack ability at PL level but to not put a shift in because the players don’t feel the fans are behind them is unforgivable. Anyone who doesn’t give 100% (and some) should be out the door - end of.




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11 Aug 2022 09:50:47
One of the disappointments, irrespective of formation is that we used to be highly effective without the ball. Players knew when to press and when not to, and there was a general understanding of each others’ roles.

Now we are easy to pick off with or without the ball and teams slice through our midfield as if it’s non existent.

Worse of all is when we try and play the ball out from the back…. 3 or 4 hesitant passes before we invariably lose the ball before we’ve got to the halfway line. Whilst I appreciate the way Man City and the likes master the art of building from the back, I think our boys need to know their limitations.

So my take is that I agree with you Saintjay - you don’t change a system to accommodate a couple of newbies (unless they’re world beaters) and Llamedossaint you’re spot on. There was no obvious formation or system - we just spent the afternoon chasing shadows.





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12 Sep 2022 19:31:31
Hi Teejaysaint - thank you for confirming.

Yes, I was there too ….

“McCalliog finds Stokes… Stokes hits it …… Stokes has scored for Southampton “!

I think I got slightly worse for wear on my first underage pint of lager and black!

And then of course the next day the fans took over the city!

That’s why I would never ever support playing a weakened side in an FA cup tie!




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12 Sep 2022 11:04:35
Haha, let me guess Osgood and McCalliog?!

Great memories and how the game has changed - Peter Rodrigues and his like didn’t live in bubbles then and were more far more in touch with the ‘ordinary person in the street’. A more honest game back then dare I say.

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11 Sep 2022 11:46:42
Hi Johnnyst,

The tributes to her late Majesty the Queen have been overwhelming, the world over. I’m sure you must be caught up in the moment all those thousands of miles away.

With the football postponed yesterday I swapped Brentford at home for Buckingham Palace just to soak up some of the atmosphere. The crowds were amazing and whilst there was a huge sense of loss, there was also an enormous feeling of pride.

I reflected on that glorious day, May 1st 1976 when our Queen handed over the FA Cup to Peter Rodrigues. I believe I’m right in saying that was the last time she performed that duty - another little gem in the history of our club.

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07 Sep 2022 21:57:35
Absolutely spot on South Hants Rich!

At the risk of incurring the wrath of almost every Saints fan, I will also add that JWP is holding us back. His contribution offensively (free kicks aside) is poor and his default setting is invariably sideways and backwards. He certainly does not come across as an authorative captain.

Why is it of all the star performers we’ve had in recent years, none of the big guns have come in for him like they have the others? For the sort of money we would want (£50 mil plus) he just doesn’t stamp his authority on a game consistently. Think of how Llallana used to change games…

Anyway, I shall await the barrage but for the avoidance of doubt, yes I would select him from the squad we have, but he certainly does not live up to his billing.




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07 Sep 2022 19:10:01
Great team choice except for Perraud - his crossing has been erratic and he was poor last weekend.

Who would have thought Ralph would have outlasted Tuchell - funny old game!