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20 Jun 2019 10:30:09
I'm hearing rumours of Atletico Madrid and Inter Milan interested in Bertrand. Does anyone know the truth behind this?

Regarding, Inter Milan, does anyone know if they're interested in signing Cedric from us, following his loan. With Vanheusden coming the other way?


{Ed002's Note - Ryan Bertrand (LB) would be sat on the bench at Atletico which other options are not keen on - but it is possible. Would be sat on the bench at Inter as an Ansaldi replacement - seen as an option to Kolarov. Both seem unlikely and are the result of clubs listing out options rather than declaring an interest at this time. Cedic is of no interest to Inter.}

1.) 26 Jun 2019 14:34:43
Getting a bit frustrated with this che Adams situation what's the chances tieing up this deal ed?

{Ed002's Note - I have no way to quantify the chances. There is no race and Southampton would like the deal completed.}

2.) 27 Jun 2019 10:02:59
Thanks Ed, I know us Saints fans are impatient but it's because we have bought so badly in previous years! Che seems the player we want but I am hearing we have moved onto a Nigerian striker from Italy, +Do you know if this is true?


{Ed002's Note - Would you have a name and I will try and answer.}

3.) 27 Jun 2019 18:47:22
David okereke.

{Ed002's Note - Thanks - the notes say: David Okereke (S) Brugge have an offer on the table and are discussing details for the transfer of Okereke from Spezia Calcio as a Wesley Moraes replacement. Interest was shown by Crystal Palace but they stepped back as it was seen as unlikely he would be able to obtain a Work Permit unless they paid significantly over the odds for him.}

4.) 28 Jun 2019 10:24:02
Good info ed.
I'd much rather we get Adams in. hope it goes through. I'd like to keep a stronger english/ British contingent.

Ed do you have any details on maehle of genk? (Or gent. One of the two)

Saw you post on the Everton page that we had major interest. Are we close to making an offer or even in discussions with his club?

{Ed002's Note - It is as I explained. Southampton have spoken with Genk in January and again a while back.}

5.) 28 Jun 2019 12:25:03
Thanks. Hopefully some progress soon.



09 Dec 2018 00:34:01
It's actually difficult to decide who our best CBs are. It just seem like each player is prone to error.

That was a dreadful piece of football eariler from Vestergaard and that cost us a point and even perhaps 3 points. It's so disappointing. It just seems like every game someone makes a stupid error and that gives away a goal.

Do you think it doesn't help that are CB pairing seem to change every match? That's got to be the first time Vestergaard.


1.) 09 Dec 2018 12:15:36
RH definitely needs to get our CBs more confident. Well all of our players. First part of the game we were running around making chances and what not but boy did we get exposed countless times. Our players seem to be a little more fit but now just sloppy.

2.) 10 Dec 2018 23:21:04
Sorry SaintUS but I don't agree that we look fit at all. Most of the team are looking shattered after 65/ 70 minutes. Absolutely disgusting for professional sportsmen earning stupid amounts of money to not be fit enough to keep going for 90/ 95 minutes.

3.) 11 Dec 2018 18:46:16
The idea that Hassenhutl would have our players fitter after three days seems a little ridiculous, no?

4.) 14 Dec 2018 06:49:03
Hence "little more". Of course we aren't fit enough to keep running like that for 75+ minutes. All I'm eluding to is the players seemed to have more of an umph to them for the first half or so of the game.



25 Jul 2018 23:01:53
What's everyone's thoughts on the current transfer window for us for us? We haven't been very convincing in preseason.
It's an odd one, we've clearly now used up all of the VVD money, hence why MH has said to the press we won't get any new players until we sell them. If that's the case, how come we've let 3 players go out on loan. Do you think the board don't want to take the potential transfer loss?


1.) 26 Jul 2018 07:08:44
Personally, I don't read too much into preseason results.

We let players go on loan because its the smarter long-term move. Players with potential can go, and potentially excel and improve their transfer value, rather than selling people like Boufal and Carillo while their value is at an all-time low. Also, football finances just don't work as simply as fans like to make out. In getting these players off the wage bill, the board will see it as freeing up £X million. Transfer fees don't tend to be the most expensive part of a signing, and in accounting terms football clubs view them as being spread over the length of a player's contract. So when we sign a player for £10m, and £2 mil a year for 5 years, the club will view this as £4mil per year (this too is simplified of course) . By loaning Clasie, Boufal and Carillo, the board will have freed up, for argument's sake, £5mil in this years accounts which they have the option to invest. So it does still help our finances in the short term.

2.) 26 Jul 2018 08:51:32
Loans free up some wages (can only increase a certain amount each year due to FFP regs) whilst keeping the player on our books so if they have a great season they come back to us full of confidence or worth more if we sell on. If they have a terrible season it's no worse than them sitting on the bench/ not even making the squad.

3.) 26 Jul 2018 15:30:15
Seems like we've brought in replacements for players that have been loaned out apart from up the front where in my opinion was the place that needed most improvement. I don't think that we have enough firepower in front of goal.



10 Sep 2017 18:38:39
What's everyone's thoughts on the currentrain situation? We've scored 1 goal from open play this season (against a 10 man West ham) .
Where are we going wrong? Is it our strike force? Or attacking playears creating a lack of opportunities?
I don't think the 4-2-3-1 works at all. I think Gabs needs a strike partner. I'd like to see the 4-3-3 return. This is when we were at our best. Obviously we had Mane whose probably one of the best wingers in the wing. But stick Redmond on the right, Tadic on the left? Then rotate between Davis, Romeu, JWP and Lemina in Midfield depending on the oppointents.
Maybe some back room coaching staff changes after I've seen so much negativity towards Black which is justified since he was head coach of a Villa that were relegated.
Probably a new goalkeeper is needed. Forester isn't good enough.


1.) 11 Sep 2017 11:16:26
We are not Powerful enough in midfield, Romeu is the only player that can tackle, Prowse is a wast of time he gives us nothing, Tadic is scared, and weak, Redmond and Boufal are just not up to it. No shots on goal, no wonder the fans showed their frustration.
Look at the athleticism, height, power, plus skill that the Watford midfield had. As for playing one man up front, all this does is give opposition defenses a "easy day" Gabbaidini is quality but he has no way of showing this when he has to play as a lone striker. Play Austin with him alongside. Now you can see why Lambert and Pelle was good for us bringing others into the game. Sorry but we need to offload 3 players at least and get some grit and pace in midfield.
As for Foster I can't put into writing what I think of him
G S.

2.) 11 Sep 2017 13:05:51
I agree I think that Lemina will hopefully add some power. I'm hoping that Lemina will be the sort of player that will break up play and advance forward with the ball. Like a Dembele or Kante. I think Tadic is our most technically gifted player. However, we don't get any use out of him. He plays better on the wings. Which is why I think he should play on left and Redmond on the right. Redmond isn't good enough on the left. We need to use his pace, if we have him on the right we can start to see him making runs and putting the ball in the box from good positions. Because at the moment he wants to put everything on his right.
I 100% agree. I do feel for Puel last season as he may have played Austin and Gabs up front had Austin been fit. I don't see why Pellegrino is not doing the same. It really is a no brainer if your team is not scoring add some firepower. We have good depth in an average squad, as everyone is at the same ability. I like to think that all of the midfield could walk into all of the teams that finished below us. Ideally, we would want JWP sitting deep and pinging balls about. It's a shame we haven't loaned him out. A few seasons in the Championship would have down him a world of good when we first got promoted.
I'm hoping that maybe Harry Lewis could grow this season and play next year, that would be ideal.

3.) 11 Sep 2017 18:24:22
We didn't spend good money on Lemina for nothing!
It was quite obvious that we needed strength in midfield from virtually the first few minutes . how is it all us armchair amateurs can see that watford's midfield was fast, strong, versatile, agile . and what do we have Davis and Ward-Prowse being overrun? It does not matter what side of the pitch you put REdmond and Boufal, there is no end product and even if there is . there is no one to receive the ball . Gabbi touched the ball only 10 times in the whole game . ONCE in their area all game! gives detailed analysis of each game and can be broken down into player by player.

Might give us all an insight into what on earth is going on . some examples .
Passes inside Watford's box . 12 . yep 12 all game!
Tackles in side Waford's box . 0 . that's a big fat ZERO . their defence must have loved it!

Interceptions in Watfords box . ZERO!
Aerial duels in Watfords box . ZERO!
Dribbles in Watfords box . ZERO!

Loss of Possession all game . 30 times (15 of those Tadic, Boufal and REdmond) .
And to those that say Ward-Prowse adds nothing to the team . I didn't agree until i saw his stats!
Ward Prowse touches . 14! all game! of which TEN were passes! (Rom : 69, Davis 66, Suares 93 . etc)

tackles attempted . ZERO!
dribbles . ZERO!
Interceptions . ONE .
Clearances . ONE .
Blocks . ZERO . FOULS ZERO . Aerial Duels . ZERO!

4.) 11 Sep 2017 18:51:34
We just need to be patient. let's not forget we have a new manager and several new players to bed in. Its frustrating to see we have the same problems as last season but that is due to the lack of recruitment in attacking positions which was down to the club rather than MP. He has to coach the squad he has, the same as we have to support the team playing for us each week.

Our weakness is that we lack pace in attack, so end up playing in front of teams, failing to break with enough pace to get in behind or catch them out of position. We’re too easy to defend against at the moment. Teams know what we’re going to do before we do as we are one dimensional and nothing has moved on since last season at the moment.

The positive thing is that MP sees the problem and is shifting players around and dropping anyone who is not performing. Its logical that if the first team squad cannot perform well enough, someone in the reserves may so at some point, MP may start introducing fringe players into the match squad. let's not forget, Chelsea looked ropey at the start of last season until their new manager rolled the dice, changed formation and gambled on squad players like Victor Moses being able to do a job out of position. It paid off and MP may need to find a similar solution.

As fans, all we can do is support the team and MP and hope they find a way to turn things around. We’re only 4 games in so let's not write off the season just yet. We must understand MP will have to take risks with players and try different things. Rather than bemoan any failed experiments, we should celebrate having a head coach who is willing to shake things up to try to get us out of this rough patch.

Finally, we have to be realistic. let's not forget who we are and where we have come from. We are now a good premier league team and relegation is not on anyone’s minds at this early stage. If it is, you should feel free to book an appointment with your psychiatrist at the earliest available date. We have a model of developing young players, whose form and confidence can be up and down. Look at Pogba at utd last season for example. We can’t be too harsh on the likes of JWP and Redmond as they are still young. The same applies to Stephens, Lemina, Targett, Sims, even Hoedt etc. We must therefore accept that we will go through rough and smooth patches and our league position may be inconsistent. Short term loss for long term gain. If we can create a squad like Tottenham has, with youth and ability on its side, we could see the start of a long spell of success for the club. That’s what the club wants. That’s what we all want. It will be worth a few mediocre seasons is we can reach that goal.

5.) 11 Sep 2017 21:52:38
This has to been posted by one of the players' wives or even mums? we were AWFUL!
We can’t be too harsh on the likes of JWP and Redmond as they are still young. -- age has nothing to do with it! they are experienced pros who simply aren't producing! there was a time when JWP was considered England's next number 10! read his stats . absolutely awful. As for Redmond, shame his skill, goals, ability don't match his highly inflated ego!
The same applies to Stephens, Lemina, Targett, Sims, even Hoedt etc
All of those players have produced the goods! and most importantly have improved as players .
The football (and I use that term loosely) produced against Watford was atrocious. I am not sure I have ever watched a game where we had no shape, no style, no drive . it was almost impossible to read our game .

6.) 11 Sep 2017 22:27:00
VVD horror show tonight in U23s. Lost 4-0: he's well off the pace!

7.) 12 Sep 2017 11:43:21
Several players to bed in? Lemina didn't play due to the international game, Bednarek is considered one for the future, which just leaves Hoedt as one new player. This does not warrant a complete lack of ideas, when you consider Watford have more players to bed in than us.

Would love to be more positive but I have concerns, not so much with the points but performances.

8.) 12 Sep 2017 14:12:55
The point is Rich that your statistics based on one match do not actually shed a great deal of light on the problems our team is experiencing, they merely highlight the symptoms. Also, if you feel that 3 or4 of our starting players are not good enough, then what is the solution? You suggest none. We can’t buy anyone now. Who in the squad can come in to the first team and make such a radical difference? Lemina of course can return and looks a prospect on paper, (lets not pretend after one appearance for the first team we have it nailed on how good he is and what his strengths and weaknesses will be), but even he is a young player who will require a little time to adapt to the pace and power of our league in comparison to Serie A. Saying age has nothing to do with the performance and consistency of several of our players is either wilfully naïve or moronic.
My point about bedding in new players Gregg does not relate solely to the starting 11, especially not in relation to the one game against Watford. A team needs strength in depth to provide competition for places and for form players to come off the bench and make a difference in games where things aren’t quite working. With players like Bednarek, Hoedt and Lemina, Hojberg i. e the young players that our club is choosing to invest in rather than bringing in proven premier league performers, all will take time to find their feet with ups and downs in their performances. This will impact the first team whether they are on the pitch or competing for places.
Southampton Football Club has stated its aim is to invest in young players we can develop and bring in to the first team, rather than spending a lot of money on established players. Until those young players are on the pitch performing consistently, we continue to invest in the future of the first team rather than its present. That said, the club is not slow to invest and bring in established players to bolster the first team squad if the need is apparent. Gabbiadini is an example, coming in last January to great effect before his injury. So, if we continue to struggle in front of goal, hopefully we’ll see investment in January. Long gone are the days under the likes of Rupert Lowe where your squad at the start of the season, irrespective of the opening and shutting of transfer windows, would remain the same. Our club is now more pragmatic with its playing staff and the coaching staff if things aren’t working.
We’re 4 games in. We have a new head coach. The first team squad has not really been added to over the summer, especially in attack so we face similar problems to last season. That puts a lot of pressure on the new head coach to solve the problem going forward that Claude Puel could not. Why not wait and see how we’re doing after 10 games or on the run up to Christmas before writing off the team?

9.) 12 Sep 2017 19:18:24
In reply to figodasilva .

It is neither moronic nor naive to suggest age is not a factor. I agree totally that someone like Simms, they have very little experience in the Premiership . but JWP has made not far off 150 first team appearances, plus over 50 appearances for various levels of the England setup .
Nathan R has made over 200! first team appearances, plus 70 for various levels of the England set up!

As for my statistics not being representative . ok here are some stats for our first 4 games,
Total Dribbles 40, 2 in the opponents box
Tackles attempted 87 . ZERO in the opponents box
Interceptions 43 . ZERO in the opponents box
Blocks 44 . 1 in the opponents box
Fouls 41 . 3 in the opponents box
Aerial Duels 77 . 9 in the opponents box .

A combination of not getting the ball in the area enough and when it does enter their box, not exactly fighting for the ball!
while we have three Gaston R's in Redmond, Boufal and Tadic, we will have lots of fancy footwork with no end product! all ending before that telling pass to poor old Gabbi waiting patiently!

What we do about it mmmmmm well JWP isn't providing much, even Davis is not producing .

Cedric VVD Hoedt Bertrand/ Targett/ McQueen
Long Romeu Lemina Bertrand/ Targett/ McQueen
Gabbi Austin.

10.) 12 Sep 2017 21:08:03
Thanks for the response Rich.

I’m not going to bang the JWP drum much because I’m also not sure where he fits into our team – he’s not really an attacking midfielder, nor a defensive one. He would probably benefit from a 3/ 5/ 2 with Lemina and Romeu behind him to provide protection so he can patrol behind and interchange with a front two.

The problem I have with statistics is they are always open to interpretation. Yes, in the last 5 seasons, JWP has 148 appearances, but only 79 were starts and he hasn’t played the full 90 minutes of many (if any) of those games. If we say a young player learning the ropes requires a consistent run, these stats don’t tell us how many consecutive games he has played. I’m sure its not many considering he’s been around the first team for 5 seasons. His best appearance stats came last season and he provided 4 goals and 4 assists from 22 starts. Not bad for someone who is in and out of the team and utilised in several different positions when he does come in. Not only that but he’s 22. The onus is on the club to find a way to fit him into the team if they want to get the best out of him, rather than squeeze him into the starting line-up.

Like Redmond, yes they both have a good level of experience now, but age also relates to maturity and confidence levels and other related factors. If a player reaches his peak at about 27 or 28, both players have a lot of development ahead of them so is it fair we bin them now? It comes back to the argument of do you give our young players, our young English players, a chance to progress in their respective first teams, playing regularly in the premier league, or do you give up on them and drop them back to the under 23s?

Your other team stats in your first post all focused on action inside Watford’s box. As much as we would like the game to be played out in the opposition box, the majority of a match’s action takes place in the middle third of the pitch for the vast majority of teams in the vast majority of matches, so events inside the box, unless you’re playing an inept team, are going to be very limited. Also, with stats as detailed as this, I for one do not know what is average in a 90 minute game of football in the premier league, what is average in a match for a team that plays a similar system and style to us (when you are able to detect one), or even what is average for the teams that are likely to be around us in the league table. Whilst a zero stat isn’t great, how rare is it?

In any event, my point is the stats, even your new ones, don’t tell us the cause of the problem, they simply highlight the symptom, which is we are pretty blunt going forward. In my view, we struggle because we are playing in front of the opposition because we are slow in moving the ball forward and any chance of a quick break, unless a genuine one on one, is usually curtailed as the breaking player has to check his run to hold the ball up and await support. Its all very one dimensional and predictable with even the weakest teams in the prem not being stretched as we do not hit them at pace and catch them out of position.

I’m not sure I’m comfortable with a 4-4-2 as most teams set up with up to 5 midfielders and three attackers when in possession, so they could bypass a 4 man midfield. Plus, Shane Long I don’t see as a wide option as, while he has some pace, I’m not sure he has the end product required either. I like playing Gabbi and Austin together though. It has to be worth a try. So a 3-5-2 perhaps with Yoshi, Stephens and Hoedt/ Bertrand (if VVD doesn’t return to the team), Cedric and Bertrand/ McQueen as wing-backs Lemina, Romeu and JWP/ Hojberg/ Davis in the middle and Gabbi playing in and around Austin.

11.) 12 Sep 2017 22:09:33
It's great to have a 'conversation' with someone that writes sense .
Interestingly in your lineup, you omitted Boufal, Redmond and Tadic. I agree totally, I agree we don't hit opponents with pace. The initial passes forward are slowed down the minute one of those three get the ball. They then go through some song, dance, side shuffle, step over, beat the same player three times . and then try and pass . all too late as the opponents midfield and defence are all back and in position. Perhaps this is the reason for JWP's poor stats, he quite simply is not getting the ball and therefore can't control that number 10 position. To be fair, I was shocked at the stats for him . especially as the players around him had played the ball by a factor of 6 to 8 times more! .

My reason behind Shane Long was that of a similar role to Jay Rod played, out wide and cutting in (and becoming the third attacker) . It was more I was trying to think of a way to get the ball moving faster without the need for the Waltz, Tango and Side Steps .!

The three amigos remind me so much of Gaston Ramirez, a talented player who had great footwork, but so frustrating. With the modern day defender/ midfield being so agile and quick, a player that 'messes' around with the ball and then makes the pass, maybe 10 seconds after he should have, can end up being negative for the team.
GAbbi is an exceptional finisher and his positional play really does remind me of Shearer, Teddy S or Van Nistleroy . but while he takes up great positions, he never gets the ball.

A quality that we always had was great combination between the wing backs and midfield; this appeared almost non existent on Saturday.

It will be very interesting to see the formation/ team played Saturday. I have supported Saints for near on 50 years and played amateur football for near on 30 . and Saints on Saturday was quite possibly the most disjointed team I have ever seen.

12.) 13 Sep 2017 09:33:54
I also notice that we both failed to mention Forster . deliberately or subconsciously I am not sure!
I am not sure we can continue with this man.
His ability to save a shot on goal is rapidly diminishing from
sometimes to never .

13.) 13 Sep 2017 11:03:37
Thank you. I agree, that the best way to use a forum is to have a chat, clear the air and then hopefully, find a positive thread to look forward to Saturday rather than dread it.

I don’t see Redmond or Boufal as viable wing backs. Perhaps auxiliary forwards if we need to move a midfielder up to play off Austin? I still think this 3-5-2 lacks pace though. We’d rely heavily on the wing backs for pace. In an ideal world our attacking midfielder would also have pace too but if you look at a team like Leicester, they make do with pace in wide areas and a striker.

I don’t think Forster is the long term solution but he’s the best option from the current squad. I was disappointed the young keeper who came on loan last season didn’t get more of a chance. Forster doesn’t command his area which is odd given his size. The best example was Zlatan’s headed goal to beat us at Wembley last year. What was he, three yards away from our goal line? It was a floated cross too so Forster had time to get there. Distribution last season was frightening and barely reached the halfway line at times and he doesn’t get down quickly enough to save the low shots. I was concerned to see him dive to save Watford’s first attempt last week and he seemed to pull his hands away at the vital moment, as if he thought it was going wide.

So I’m not crazy. I do see the flaws, but I just think there’s no fixing some things at the moment and this is going to be another transitional season. Its cathartic to come on here and have a moan but at the same point, negativity can spread like wildfire and we end up jeering or booing our team which does little for their confidence this early on the season.

I hope performances can improve but it may be up and down like last year. We may see more from Hojberg now he’s more settled, Boufal may also improve and Lemina may be the new Schneiderlin. Fingers crossed. I also hope the new owners will make funds available next summer. I think the eds highlighted ffp rules may mean less spending this year, but given PSG have been able to do what they have with limited scrutiny, apparently ffp is now worthless.

On to managerless Palace. Its got draw written all over it with two teams struggling to score and low on confidence, but if we can get a lucky break, or if MP hits on a solution to our attacking issue, tactically or through personnel, maybe we can secure another three points. COYR.

14.) 13 Sep 2017 15:42:51
I thought I would check on Gaston Ramirez to see where he is . off to Serie A .
It has been interesting (and enjoyable) to watch teams like Stoke and Watford this season. The days of big strong, slow and not too skillful players seems over. I actually loved watching the way Watford played. Their attacks were exciting and fast. There was very little messing around on the ball, quite simply fast passes to space and players on the run .
I mention Gaston because maybe the days of players like Boufal and Tadic in the PL are gone. With agile and quick defenders plus sharp midfields, the ball needs to be played quickly and accurately.
There are some very clever, highly skillful players around . I love to watch Jaun Matta, Fernandinho, Aguero . Willian . Hazard . but they all move the ball quickly and also move quickly into space .
Anyway, back to Saints .
Two up front . and most importantly GET THE BALL TO THEM :-)

15.) 14 Sep 2017 15:23:27
Come back Guly. all is forgiven :-)



16 Aug 2017 11:34:28
Looking at current rumours the Chelsea want in for Cedric a deal worth 15m. Do you know if there is any truth behind this Eds?


{Ed002's Note - He has been discussed on a number of occasions but I am not aware of an offer at this time.}

1.) 16 Aug 2017 13:17:17
Even if he goes surley not for 15m.

2.) 16 Aug 2017 16:17:56
Think Cedric is worth at least 25 million and even then I don't think saints will sell.

3.) 16 Aug 2017 16:27:44
Eds the Liverpool fans saying VVD could still get done and that Saints might be waiting to see if Lpool qualify for CL and if they do they wouldn't stand in his way. This sounds ridiculous to me and deluded. Do you think there is any truth in this at all? Sorry to ask but they all seem to think so!

{Ed002's Note - All sorts of things can happen.}

4.) 16 Aug 2017 19:56:26
Thanks as ever Ed. Just seen Kruegers statement so Saints holding firm! Good on them.

5.) 17 Aug 2017 09:48:12
Ignore the Liverpool fan sites. They're just desires, not news. If you believe them they've signed him 57 times.

6.) 17 Aug 2017 11:16:45
Thanks Wandering Saint. They really wind me up!




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05 Dec 2019 09:19:18
A critical 3 points last night. We did hold on, only just. It's crazy that when we're in the position we just sit behind the ball and almost hope we don't concede. And Byram could've easily scored in the 93rd minute.

We play so much worse with 5 at the back, I'm glad we resorted to the 4-2-2-2. There's still a lot of work to do for Ralph as we don't press fluidly as a unit, once we get this right we'll start seeing better results.

Ward Prowse had a solid game, both goals were as a result of his set pieces. And he worked really hard, you can tell that the position in the centre of midfield suits him better than the wing. Redmond still seems incredible wasteful on the left, holds the ball for to long and isn't decisive enough, I'd like to see him have a go on the right to see what he brings. Adams looked like a sharp edition from the bench and would like to see more of him going forward.

I'm hoping the 2 wins on the bounce will give us the confidence going forward and we'll play more aggressive. If we play most of our games like the last ten minutes of the first half we will get the results we want.


1.) 05 Dec 2019 20:59:55
Hope when everyone's fit we get one up top with Boufal on the left, Djenepo on the right and Redmond down the middle, almost like a false 9

Think Long deserves a mention,
- his workrate and running tested Norwich's defence,
- won the free kick that led to the first goal,
- set Ings up for the shot that nearly knocked Aarons out with a wonderful piece of hold up play
- His movement in the box drew the Norwich CB with him and allowed Bertrand to get into the space that Long was originally in to score
-and should have had a penalty later on.

Good role model for Obafemi, if he can learn to do what Long does with his pace, movement, work rate and add a regular goal, he'll be world class.

2.) 05 Dec 2019 22:09:08
To be honest, when Boufal and Djenepo are fully fit, I don't see Redmond get a look in. If we want to play faster, smarter, then it's never going to happen with Redmond ' I'll stop with the ball, look around and do nothing with it'.
JWP not the best tackler but as was said above, when he plays the number 10 role he looks much better and adds so much more to the team; it was good to see that everytime he received the ball, he was looking up, looking forward AND making some good telling passes.

Obafemi needs more than a player role model, he needs to change his whole attitude on and off the pitch - especially off the pitch!

It was great to see Long and Ings together, both very intelligent players. Those two with Boufal and Djenepo now that's an attacking combination!

I also agree Che Adams looked sharp, taking up good positions. i was hoping that we held on to out two goal lead and brought Che on when we were in control of game.

As for Danny Ings - we are seeing him at his best, we are seeing why he was a Liverpool player. We just might get him to stay injury free for much longer! i would love to see him made captain.

3.) 06 Dec 2019 08:48:06
I should've mentioned Long, he is definitely the striker we need for the style of football we were trying to play. He did an excellent job in getting out wide and winning the ball back. Is always looking to close down the defenders. It's just his end product which is lacking.

I was also thinking about the winger situation and even though I think that Boufal and Djenepo have been better this season when they've played, is it almost worth bringing Boufal on from the bench as I think he'd be a better impact sub than Redmond would if he was to be the winger that sits on the bench.

4.) 06 Dec 2019 16:19:01
Saintjay, I was kinda thinking more positive, as in be in a situation
where you don't need impact subs. But after so long fighting for draws or holding on for a win, i suppose the mindset of winning by a margin and in control is a distant memory. I agree, Redmond would not be an impact sub - i think now we have djenepo and boufal, it just reinforces how far behind Redmond is, and not improving one bit!

Two weeks ago we would have been going to Newcastle looking for a draw at best, trying not to lose. Now I think they will be going with not just a positive mindset but trying to win! COYR.

5.) 10 Dec 2019 07:49:37
Saints are gradually improving but still considered bottom3 . We all know that approx 5 quality players are still required to b.

6.) 11 Dec 2019 07:41:07
become. a regular EPL.



03 Nov 2019 10:02:34
Is anyone else annoyed that the players are labelling yesterday's defeat as cruel? Yeah and lost and held the lead for most of the game. But look at stats?! City had 75% possession as well as 26 shots. I didn't watch the match or haven't seen the highlights but it sounds like we just parked the bus and tried to waste time for 70 minutes of the ninety.

I get that the city is potentially the best squad in prem history, but we still seem like we're taking the defeat as a positive. Yes it wasn't a big loss, but we're still in the relegation zone after taking 1 point from 6 games.


1.) 03 Nov 2019 15:54:32
I agree to a certain point that these players are given to much respect
But for us to be hit for another big score line would only
Demoralise the team and fans further
We’re now coming up to a period where we have teams in and around us
So let’s have the same commitment as yesterday with a bit more attacking intent and see how that takes us Uk to Christmas
I’d like to think if we play anything like yesterday we can beat these teams and crawl out of the situation we’re in.

2.) 03 Nov 2019 18:41:33
As someone who has openly criticised our players lately, i would like to say a few positive things about the players after the Man City game.

This was like watching a different team. They had clearly been trained and trained on how to defend better, but that would have counted for nothing had the passion and commitment been missing.
In fact these two things were there in abundance! Tackling like their life depended on it, throwing themselves in front of the ball. They chased everything, closed down all the time, kept their shape.

Yes they did adopt the kick it away/ into touch at every chance, but this is Man City and it gave us breathing space. Man City didn't have a shot on goal til something like the 70th minute.
I would say more it was an excellent defensive gave and not so much parking the bus.

Two comments . JWP (yes i know he scored) - please someone school him on defending/ tackling - he currently runs towards the player with the ball, never really tackling. they pass . he runs towards that player, never really closing him down!

Substitutions . when taking off Danny Ings you are not taking off an attacker but an attacker. midfielder and defender combined.
His defensive play yesterday was incredible . and as soon as he went off we were weaker for it . and Man City capitalized.

Play like that in defence, with Ings/ Redmond. Boufal/ Djenepo providing the attacks, we will be ok.

3.) 04 Nov 2019 15:37:46
Having now watched the highlights it was clearer to see the we were so much better organised against them. It's crazy to see that amount of difference in such a short space of time.

Again, I feel as though RH playing PEH out of position at LB didn't help us for the goals we conceded.

4.) 04 Nov 2019 18:15:36
saintjay . much better organised . and PASSION!



08 Jul 2019 11:27:59
Interestingly Saints website have just posted the 25 man squad that they're taking to Austria and missing a few names:

- Austin
- McQueen
- Armstrong
- Lemina
- Reed
- Hesketh
- Clasie
- Carrillo

Boufal also isn't on the list, but he's at AFCON so that would be why. Are we looking to offload all of these players?

Also, what's the gossip with Elyounoussi are we looking to keep him and see how it works out for his second season?

Notably there are a few academy lads who have been called up, so congrats to them.


{Ed001's Note - were any of them at the U21s tournament? If so they won't be going because they will be on their holidays.}

1.) 08 Jul 2019 11:56:36
Thanks for the response ED! I don't think the youngsters (Hesketh, McQueen, Reed) qualify for the under 21's anymore. I think Reed could still be suffering an injury from last season - I think we cut his loan short so he could recover at Staplewood. Gunn was playing for the U21's though and he's made the squad.

I would imagine we'll be getting rid of these lads. Spent the last few seasons out on loan, haven't cemented themselves into the first team. Waste of wages and isn't good for them to be playing for the reserves, as it just halts overall development of the squad.

{Ed001's Note - ah ok just a thought.}

2.) 08 Jul 2019 12:58:56
Armstrong has food poisoning
McQueen is still probably recovering from doing his ACL
Reed my possibly be still recovering from an ankle injury as saintJay said. but could still be sold. As for the rest the club are actively looking to get rid so better that they don't travel and have a better chance of finding another club.

3.) 09 Jul 2019 01:30:41
Sam M is most definitely still recovering and will be for at least six months.

4.) 09 Jul 2019 08:39:59
Thanks guys, knew Reed had suffered an injury on loan, didn't realise McQueen had as well.



13 May 2019 09:07:57
A disappointing end to a bittersweet season. We seemed to be doomed in November but credit where it's due, Ralph has turned the club and players around. We seems to have slightly
declined since securing our place in the Premier League next season. There's still a lot of work to do.
I'd like to see the board really financially back Hasenhüttl, give him 80-100m to sign 4/ 5 really good players. Get rid of all the deadweight, we want to be signing that are better than we have that can really take the club forward and increase our chances of finishing in a Europe League spot. Because, if the club wants to progress in the league than they will need the financial backing, we've wasted the VVD money with some sub par signings.

I would say sell these players.

- Forester and McCarthy, both aren't good. I would like to see us sell both of them and buy a better Goalkeeper and have Gunn as number 2

- Cedric, Hoedt, Stephens. Get rid of all of these defenders and sign a new rightback and centreback. I think the Vestergaard and Bednerak are both good enough to be our pairing next season, but if we think that we can
someone better in that we should do so.

- Austin, Elyounoussi, McQueen, Gallagher, Clasie should also be sold. I also don't think that we should sign Danny Ings on a permanent, he's had an okay season, but hasn't been able to become a consistent scorer because of his injuries.

I'd like to see Boufal and Carrillo play next season but we'll see what Ralph makes of them in preseason.


1.) 13 May 2019 10:55:18
Danny Ings has to be signed and paid for. It was the deal with Liverpool that we buy him at the end of the year long loan.

2.) 13 May 2019 12:10:03
Amazing how many fans still don't realise that we are OBLIGATED to sign Danny ings. He is essentially a Southampton player. Not just a one season loan signing.

Having Gunn as a number 2 is also a pretty terrible shout. He's a good keeper, did very well at Norwich. we didn't spend 13 million on him just to be a number 2 keeper. He also didn't leave man city and sign for us just to be a number 2 either.
He will be our number 1 for hopefully a good couple of years.
I imagine one of either forster or McCarthy will go and the other will provide back up. or we will sell both and buy an experienced keeper as back up.
I agree with most of the rest of your post, Jay. I'd also like to see if boufal can adhere to Ralph's methods (not actually confident he will though) but I don't see what carrillo has done either with us or on loan this year to warrant being selected. he doesn't even seem to fit Ralph's idea of what he wants in a striker. If you want to keep him we may as well keep Gallagher, there about the sake level in terms of ability.

3.) 13 May 2019 18:35:40
I agree Milky. I'd love to see Boufal come back with the right attitude because he's obviously a very good footballer. As for Carrillo, I just don't think he has what it takes. We need a striker who can net 15 or more goals a season and I'm sure he's not up to that standard. I think that Gunn could be our no.1 for several years, just need an upgrade in the defence in front of him.



11 Mar 2019 13:46:32
Been doing some comparison for a fan favourite to assess how good this man actually is. Bednarek has been one of our best players under RH and the stats behind his success do not lie. This kid offers so much to us. I've compared his defensive stats to some of the "best defenders" in the league and he out and out beats most of these players in numbers.

Played: 17
Blocks: 23
Interceptions: 43
Tackles: 33
Tackles won: 20
Clearances: 114
Header Clearances: 53
Aerial battles won: 53
Errors leading to goal: 0

Played: 30
Blocks: 16
Interceptions: 33
Tackles: 30
Tackles won: 22
Clearances: 163
Headed Clearance: 88
Aerial Battles Won: 141
Errors leading to goal: 0

Played: 27
Blocks: 7
Interceptions: 30
Tackles: 30
Tackles won: 13
Clearances: 69
Headed Clearance: 47
Aerial Battles Won: 58
Errors leading to goal: 0

Played: 27
Blocks: 7
Interceptions: 30
Tackles: 30
Tackles won: 13
Clearances: 69
Headed Clearance: 47
Aerial Battles Won: 58
Errors leading to goal: 0

Played: 17
Blocks: 8
Interceptions: 29
Tackles: 28
Tackles won: 19
Clearances: 61
Headed Clearance: 29
Aerial Battles Won: 33
Errors leading to goal: 0

Played: 28
Blocks: 6
Interceptions: 27
Tackles: 33
Tackles won: 15
Clearances: 81
Headed Clearance: 49
Aerial Battles Won: 75
Errors leading to goal: 0

You could argue that these players play for better clubs and have less work to do. But I still think that these stats prove how good he's been for us.


1.) 11 Mar 2019 23:35:42
RH has certainly brought the best out of him but I think that's true of all our players. His man management skills are second to none. I'm sure if Hughes was still in charge we would be fighting Huddersfield for bottom place.




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09 Mar 2020 09:19:27
From the outside looking in his investment does not look very good. It almost feels like he's seen us as a selling club, where he can make some money on the margin from our player sales. And since he's taken charge we haven't been able to make any money by selling players so now he wants out, as RH and the club have probably said they don't want to sell any players in the summer.

Investing in a football club isn't going to make you loads of money straight off the bat, it's a slow procedure that takes years to develop. It's a weird one, and now I'm reading rumours of RB wanting to buy the club.


{Ed002's Note - I don't think you understand the situation at all.}



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11 Feb 2020 14:30:21
I agree with you, I feel that Boufal's biggest problem is that he's never had a proper run of games in the squad. If he adds more aggression to his game and is smarter with the ball then he could become such a good player. His pro's that he is probably the most direct player in the squad. His first intention is always to go towards the goal and try to make something happen. His biggest downfall is that he always tries to do too much with the ball and often loses it. He did this many times against Spurs got the ball and tried to take loads of players on and if you're a premier league team you'll know that you can press him with a few players because more often then not you have a chance to win the ball back because he won't go backwards.




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31 Jan 2020 08:59:53
I think it's just a rumour created by the media and nothing more. Hopefully, it doesn't distract Pierre. We could sell him in the summer and replace him if the price is right, but he is the captain so wouldn't really want him to leave.




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29 Jan 2020 21:11:11
It doesn't really make much sense to me. Cedric has been good for us this season, granted he has stated he wants to leave. But we let first team regular like him go out on loan until the end of season and then he leaves for free in the summer when his contract expires doesn't make financial sense.




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13 Nov 2019 08:34:17
I agree Rich, Boufal is probably our most creative player, even though he is wasteful, he gets in good positions on the pitch and is unpredictable. I feel he should be getting more game time than he has been.

RH needs to use the international break to regroup and go back to the basics. If he wants to use his 4-2-2-2 he needs to drill this into the squad. Setting up to defensive does nothing for us. If we utilise and use the 4-2-2-2 formation correctly and press as a squad of players we will create chances. At the moment we are just sitting back and waiting for the opportunity, we need to start getting into the faces of our opponents. Pressing up top will relieve pressure from our defensive, if our defensive shape is good enough then other teams will struggle to break us down.





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26 Jun 2020 12:07:58
I do like Valery, but he's not quite there yet. I wouldn't mind if we keep him playing for a couple of seasons to get him to beyond the level where we want him to be at. Clearly Ralph sees something in. Watching KWP last night, I don't think he did a bad job, that being said we dominated the second half and all of Arsenals chances came on the counter.

I know we were after Maehle from Genk. I don't know what's going on with that one know.




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08 Mar 2020 10:01:01
I think the red was the right decision. However, we've seen them not given on plenty of occasions this season. I think the referee puts himself in an awkward position for the rest of the game as he used the monitor to make decisions (as I think the officials should) . However, he doesn't then use it for the penalty. Which, I don't think should have been a penalty as Saint-Maximin pulled Boufal in the build-up, which caused the ball to hit his arm. Justice was done as McCarthy saved the penalty. Then you had Manquillo's tackle on Bertrand, which they didn't even look at? It was late and he's two-footed him in the chest and he's late, I think that tackle was more intentional then Djenpo's.

I didn't think we were ever going to win with 10 men, but everyone put a shift in, Ings chased absolutely everything. Both CB's did a great job and even though Valery made a mistake leading to the goal, he had a very good game. It was always going to be a difficult game for him as Saint-Maximin is one of the fastest wingers in the league. I think the difference came when they brought Joelinton as that allowed Almiron to drop deeper, where he plays better. It's promising how strong our back 4 has become and how much better we defend with JWP and PEH as our holding midfielders. We missed Armstrong and Redmond today, Boufal is a good player but he gave the ball away in a lot of good areas. He's got a chance though in the upcoming weeks to make his case to become a first-team player.




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02 Mar 2020 08:03:26
After watching the highlights, we couldn't cope with West Hams front 3. Bowen and Antonio gave Haller so much support. Maybe we weren't bullied but in all of the instances Haller was too strong for our CB's and GK. I think Stephens and Bednerak are a good pairing for our CB, dunno who else we might bring in. But if we've got Valery and KWP who can't get into the first team, we need a new RB and I haven't been convinced by Bertrand for a long time now, we need to consider replacing him.




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01 Mar 2020 12:58:35
I feel like West Ham are a massive bogey team us. The only thing I've seen is the score, but it sounds like they bullied us, which is what they normally do.




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25 Feb 2020 19:16:17
All three certainly deserve a place. I'm not sure how Ings would get on, as England don't play the same style as football as we do. Southgate would have to alter the lineup to suit him. JWP should get a call up, he's proven that he's a versatile DM, a position that the England team doesn't really have a preferred player of choice (apart from Hendo) . I also don't see why Stephen's couldn't get into the squad, considering Southgates called up Mings and Tomori in the last few outings.