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24 May 2025 12:04:33
Tom Cleverly seen at Saints U21 Final! Are Saints about to screw up another appointment? Will Still is by far the better choice, over achieves, tactically very aware, good defensive record which we have lacked for 3 seasons now. This is a bad move when Still is available!
10 Sep 2017 18:35:38
As far as I can see we need to use a 352 going forward dropping into a 532 in defence. Line up for me would be Anyone but Forster, hoedt, vvd, Stevens, Bertrand, Lemina, Romeu, Davis, Soares, Gabiadini and Austin. Does anyone agree?
1.) 10 Sep 2017 19:12:55
something needs to change, IMO it is a combination of tactics and players - sometimes we don't look like a cohesive unit.
5,3,2 OR 4,4,2 - one up front isn't working.
2.) 11 Sep 2017 07:35:06
That could work. However, that seems way too defensive. 5 at the back and 3 midfielders that have no presence in attack. Obviously, you'd have Bertrand and Cedric attacking the wings.
3.) 11 Sep 2017 15:22:27
Saint jay, yeah, that's my vision, apols for not making it clear
hopefully we will adopt a different system soon.
4.) 11 Sep 2017 17:41:36
Saintjay in 352/ 532 the wingbacks are key and need to be up and down the flanks as needed providing crosses in attack and smothering counter attacks offeriing outlets for the centre backs. When attacking Lemina and or Davis would push forward. This keeps options open for passing and switching the play. Everything revolves around a box to box attitude and plenty of crosses.
5.) 12 Sep 2017 12:05:35
Yes, I am familiar with how this works. I just don't see Davis being reliable enough to be added as another attacking threat. We would essentially have 3 CB's and 3 CM's who are defensive minded. You would want someone that can sit in behind the front 2 that can move the ball about fast and get it out to the wing but would also provide support for Cedric and Bertrand. I would say that currently, Tadic would be the best person to do this.
14 Aug 2017 18:15:54
Well the takeover is done. 80% shareholder. I fear this is a big mistake and pray to every god ever that i be proved wrong. This is not a billionaire russian/ american/ Arab but a Chinese company that lost money in 2016. Expect VVD to be sold immediately and others on a regular basis. Have a bad feeling about Lander Sports.
1.) 14 Aug 2017 18:53:41
Hi guys
Regarding the Takeover it didn't take long for the language to change regarding VVD I know its only roumers but according to Yahoo sports Southampto tell Chelsea and Man City they will have to break the world record for VVD if they want to buy him it was only a week ago VVD is not for sale this summer for any price. Is this a clue to what the future holds for southampton?
disilusioned.
2.) 14 Aug 2017 21:07:13
isn't the world record 200 million now? Essentially telling them to stump up more than Neymar for a CB worth 1/ 4 of that at most
If I walked up to you and wanted to buy your car and you told me you wanted, let's say £1,000,000 isn't that essentially telling me to f*** off?
3.) 14 Aug 2017 21:08:40
Is demanding a record fee for a player that is going to leave anyway really a problem? I would argue not.
VVD wants a crack at the title, he isn't going to get that at Saints, and he likes the smell of what the Klopp is cooking. Let him go, but for top dollar.
4.) 14 Aug 2017 21:46:20
World record for defender not any player, so about 55m.
5.) 14 Aug 2017 22:15:47
Still. Free Prawn Crackers at every home game - so it can't be all bad.
6.) 14 Aug 2017 23:37:25
The article I read said we'd told them it had to be 70+ million. I'd take that to be fair, but any less and I'd rather just keep him.
Also to the original poster, it's not Lander Sports that bought us. It's the Gao family (Jisheng Gao) privately - don't know if they have any connection to Lander Sports.
7.) 15 Aug 2017 08:35:16
Gao is the director of lander but as you say the lander deal didn't happen as difficulties pulling the finance from China so gao and his daughter are financing from personal wealth, lander not involved.
8.) 15 Aug 2017 22:35:33
This 80% share deal with Gao sounds good but really in today's terms £210 million pounds seems very little for a PL club with pretty sound finances anyway. I am just wondering whether Katarina is using this as a stepping stone to withdraw completely over the next couple of years.
I feel that having this Chinese involvement may be a way of chucking our cards on the table for speculation from other Asian investors who may want a piece of us in the future. Just an idea of mine which may be completely wrong.
9.) 16 Aug 2017 13:21:43
Well that told me then 😄.
10.) 16 Aug 2017 17:05:56
Not Lander Sports Takeover. There not involved! So you can ease your worries :)
05 Aug 2017 18:01:51
Mario Lemina reportedly due for a medical at Saints. Just what we need yet another bloody midfielder. Absolutely crying out for a CB to partner Jack Stevens but can you see one on the horizon. argh nope .
1.) 05 Aug 2017 18:36:31
Wow. People moan for weeks about us not signing anyone and this is the reaction when we do. Depressing.
2.) 05 Aug 2017 18:55:07
He looks quality, not sure what your moaning about. Probably not a priority signing, but I think he could have a big impact for us.
3.) 05 Aug 2017 19:34:05
Looks quality on YouTube search? I could make me look good on there.
4.) 05 Aug 2017 19:36:10
I think its more that we need a defender goalscorer as a higher priority . over being depressed about making a signing for an area we have more than adequate cover for.
5.) 05 Aug 2017 20:15:32
We don't need a sodding goalscorer! We need a more creative edge in midfield! A number 10. I don't know anything about this guy so I can't comment on what he's bringing to the team. but signing more "goalscorers" isn't the answer. You don't win matches with 10 strikers and a goalkeeper. Yes we need another centre back. Hopefully we are waiting till the end of the window so winners price might come down, since 20 million for a player bought for 5 and who's hardly played in 2 years is extortionate.
6.) 05 Aug 2017 21:12:48
signing another midfielder allows us to move clasie on and/ or possibly use him in a deal with lazio for hoedt.
7.) 05 Aug 2017 21:24:03
Then perhaps the correct thing to do would be sell some of the midfielders that aren't doing that. Free up some salary so we can offer a decent wage and not lose out on our prime targets. because we are overrun with midfielders . tadic, hjobjerg, classie, Redmond, boufal, ward prowse, romeu, Davis, sims and then reed out on loan. Sure let's buy more.
8.) 05 Aug 2017 22:45:58
Yeah, great one. sell. a. couple of. players so all the thick fans can kick off and continue calling us a selling club and slating les reed, accusing the club of no ambition.
We've just broken our transfer record for the 3rd window running. I've read up a little on lemina, looks like he will add some more strength and stamina to compliment romeu. I've just seen that we're linked with ghezzal too, a winger. Again, I don't know am awful lot about him.
This goes to show that saints conduct their business quietly, respectfully and with a degree of class. Not even ED was able to predict this and people have been asking him for info on in comings for weeks. So while you're crying out for a striker, a centre back, and anything else, maybe that's exactly what the club are working on. but nobody knows about it.
9.) 05 Aug 2017 23:09:18
Yh he looks quality on YouTube! But that's a lot harder as a CDM than it is for an attacking player - although I understand your point. If you watch his play he's a powerful player, who can drive into the space and pick a pass. Looks like an ideal partner for Romeu, I know we don't need CM's on paper, as we have Davies, Classie, Romeu, Hojberg and JWP even though he's been playing further forward. For me he looks like he'd add a lot of quality, I imagine we'd probably sell someone maybe Clasie as he's been linked with a move already? Manager has said he knows nothing about this though, so may not happen.
10.) 05 Aug 2017 23:33:30
I think it's only the THICK fans that try to pretend a cb isn't top of list, and this new singing is just an investment that is young already played for a top club and can be sold for more if he does well.
Proof is there when the managers say I don't know him were looking for the right players .
Great the right player is the one that can cover for the sulking dick.
It's called a cb
And to wait till end of window
Season has started by then .
Fans are pissed because again investment comes before what the team could do with .
I agree we have goal scorers I also agree we have midfield.
So all we need to wait for is a player in the cb position to fall into the investment category then were good to go for season let's hope another team is nice to les to accept a low fee in an inflated market to justify buying a cb
To replace the cb he promised would be sold for a nice little profit lol.
11.) 06 Aug 2017 02:25:37
I am genuinely depressed by the comments on here. Just because we signed lemina doesn't mean we're ignoring all other positions. People bitch about us not signing people and then do this when we sign someone. Those of you conplaining don't deserve good things and should crawl back beneath the rock you came from. You have no understanding of how life works. It's not as simple as 'oh, we need a vvd replacement'; 'let's go sign another world class cb for 15 mil and replace him'.
12.) 06 Aug 2017 09:20:20
Have we signed Lamina? Nothing official and many sites are quoting his price at £12 million but anyway until it happens and announced by the OS it is all just media talk.
13.) 06 Aug 2017 09:22:02
If he adds more steel in the middle then I'm not complaining. Despite our number of midfielders, the likes of Clasie Davis and JWP aren't exactly the bulldozer type and they'll get overrun by more overall dominant physical midfied like man utd. More options other than Romeu and arguably Hojbjerg. But the club must act again, we definitely need a CB and some injection of goals, whether its coming from someone who can finish or someone who can lay it on a plate for others!
14.) 06 Aug 2017 08:54:07
I'm not sure anyone was saying it was, nor is individual opinion a reason to be quite so personal. but then I guess some people just have to go there. Anyway the feelings being aired by more than half the posters here and across all social media platforms is they HOPE that the club aren't hoping that gardos, bednarak, Stephens and yoshida are premier league ready for a whole season and that if the personal in midfield and up front is the same, less jay rod, then we are putting a lot on a change of tactics. No doubt Austin and gabbiadini know where the goal is, pre season has shown that but everyone is still entitled to voice and have individual opinion. its as right as yours is.
15.) 06 Aug 2017 11:42:51
No one's ingoring the fact that we need a CB, should be number one priority IMO, followed by a forward, I'm sure they'll come a bit out of the blue like this one has.
{Ed002's Note - Wimmer remains of interest.}
16.) 06 Aug 2017 13:15:39
Apparently, the Point some people are missing is that, Pellegrino likes to play with 2 CDMs and that Lemina can also drop back as a central defender and can also play at full back. Versatilty is the word.
17.) 06 Aug 2017 14:09:07
No one is missing a point a conference manager
Would probably want two good solid CDM in front of such a weak defence.
You cannot pay 15 m for a quality cb in and inflated market and expect to sell yours for 50-70.
Any poster who didn't call others thick are not the aim of my post .
Sorry if u didn't read all post before.
And I bet people that think people can fit under a rock
Jumped ship to support United when we got relegated under muppet Lowe .
As I said I didn't Throw insults at anyone that don't insult throw themselves.
The vvd situation has been like this since April.
Les did the deal he also knew this would happen.
If your team cannot defend it doesn't really matter good you mid and forwards play defence will always let it down and make the team sit deeper and deeper.
And we do not have a mane on field to put them on there back foot.
Allows decent teams to push up on you with less chance of being counter attacked yourself .
You know like conceding goals directly from your own corners .
The reason poch and Koeman where able to do what they did was solid defence from two good CB
Fonte lovern
Toby fonte
Vvd let down by fonte
Now
Yosh Stephens.
18.) 07 Aug 2017 10:14:27
I think the new CDM will be a good addition to the squad. I watched the Sevilla game on Saturday with what I assume is our strongest 11. And looks like the favored formation is 4-2-3-1. As good as Davis is I do not think he is good enough for what everyone wants. He gives the ball away a lot. He has a good work rate, but I think we've needed someone else. This will make our squad more versatile in midfield. JWP looks to play a more attacking position this season. I think we should look to offload Hojbjerg on loan, as he won't improve warming the bench.
We had a problem last season with goals. We kept 7 clean sheets with VVD injured, so I wouldn't be 100% worried about our defense. Obviously, it would be good to get another CB in as we did leak goals.
23 Jul 2017 11:39:36
So now Southampton are pleading poverty and we can't afford to compete in the market. So where has all the combined profit of player sales and tv income gone? The maths do not seem to add up as far as i can see. We sell high buy cheap attain a fairly high position earning more revenue than most. Yet still we plead poverty?
1.) 23 Jul 2017 12:57:31
since when have the club 'pleaded poverty'?
Pellegrino's “There are some positions I would like to bring some options but it’s not easy for us to compete for players with quality" comment?
More of the fact the the quality of players needed to improve on what's already here are also players who'd be wanted by bigger, more attractive clubs, so it's hard to get them to agree to come here. Not that the club have no money.
2.) 23 Jul 2017 14:34:08
Market is inflated and players will go to a club that pays money not develops them nowadays cannot believe how greedy some are. If you are in 2.5 mill or 5 mill will it change your life-no. Do an advert do some commercial stuff to make up the difference and go to a club that will play and develop you then move on to the BIG club. Only issue now is players see us not letting players move on which was always the bonus if they saw us as a stepping stone.
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21 Jul 2018 18:12:52
Even as a pre season friendly that was a pathetic display against Derby.
1.) 22 Jul 2018 13:52:11
We beat Sevilla in a friendly last season and were nearly relegated.
21 Jan 2018 19:26:12
Give me Thomas Tuchel Quincy Promes and Ineachioo plus A N Other and I would say we would fly up the league. Time the board took their balls in their hands and speculated to accumulate.
1.) 21 Jan 2018 20:12:15
Ok so we're bottom 3 but today we played better for the entire game not just the first half so that's a step forward
We looked better all over the pitch tbh I don't know whether the conditions played a part but who cares
Brighton bring it on.
2.) 21 Jan 2018 21:40:07
I think Promes would be quality, we could use more pace. Dembele too in a dream world.
18 Aug 2017 09:46:05
Very worrying piece in the Times saying new owners want players sold befor anyone is added to the squad. No investment into player funds and loans taken out to buy the club need repaying as they are personal loans against new owner. Looks like VVD will be sold to offset some of owners personal debt. If true then my fears are being realised sooner rather than later.
1.) 18 Aug 2017 10:32:48
And obviously it goes without saying that we should listen to everything we read in the papers! The messages from the club have been 'VVD is not for sale' and it's 'Business as usual' - The Times probably have more sheets to fill than they have news at the moment ;-)
2.) 18 Aug 2017 11:31:38
I am sure ownership will transfer from personal to landher at some stage in the future if the need arises. I am encouraged that he put his own money in rather than his companies ( think glazers borrowed the whole amount) and have treated Man U like a cash cow ever since with the club paying for all there personal expenses as well. Grow our brand in the states with UA and Asia now and although not Man U income incomes could certainly vastly increase.
3.) 18 Aug 2017 11:54:03
If there is truth in the article then obviously it is worrying. but surely it would go against kat liebherrs ethos of doing what is right for the club.?
4.) 18 Aug 2017 23:12:34
I just don't believe this due to the fact that why would kl authorise the takeover if they had to sell players and not put in funds to the club just to pay back the club.
5.) 19 Aug 2017 01:56:27
Yh tax is a killa these days lol
Money money money.
6.) 19 Aug 2017 01:57:02
Still Stephens is manning up.
30 Jul 2017 21:14:03
Can anyone with a more financial brain please tell me why, if Saints are up for sale, do we not have more and wealthier suitors?
1.) 30 Jul 2017 21:48:38
Well I'm no whiz but I'm guessing money. The world of finance is a little rocky at the moment and let's face it we aren't talking pocket money. how many people and how often do ownership change hands. If saints are actively "for sale" which I'm not sure they are but they still are probably considered small fry and a relatively small club, recently promoted and recently out of administration. What's the room for growth and expansion and is there more available for the money. are probably asked also. I dunno because If I had 200 million in my bed side I'd have a crack.
2.) 31 Jul 2017 00:31:56
Because the ROI is relatively low and the risk is high.
26 Jul 2016 13:06:33
Was hoping the interest in Bas Dost would be firmed up as he's the ideal replacement for Pelle, but looking like Galatasary are in for him now.
1.) 26 Jul 2016 14:30:39
I thought wolfsburg were determined to keep hold of him?
2.) 27 Jul 2016 01:18:06
How many times have us saints fans heard that one.
15 Jul 2018 09:49:43
Why would he want to stay in north west? His family are from Winchester he has friends in Southampton he is a Southerner so why do you think he is so enamoured with the North West? He will go where they pay him the best money.
Mike southampton.
{Ed001's Note - because he has lived and settled down there over the last few years playing for Burnley and Liverpool I presume. How on earth would I know why he prefers the area? If it was all about money to him, he could have gone for a lot more money than Liverpool's offer. The lad is happy with what he has monetarily, it is about his career and personal happiness for him. He joined Liverpool to achieve a dream, and now it has not worked out, he just wants to go and play footie. It is not about who pays him the most, it is about first team football or he would be staying put and earning double the salary at Liverpool that he would get at any of the teams interested in him. Perhaps you should not make judgements on people you clearly do not know at all.}
12 Jul 2018 14:37:28
Apparently it's down to paperwork issues in Germany from BMG side.
09 Jan 2018 12:50:27
Why the hell do we need yet another midfielder. We are swimming in them for God's sake. Strikers are what we need .
11 Sep 2017 17:41:36
Saintjay in 352/ 532 the wingbacks are key and need to be up and down the flanks as needed providing crosses in attack and smothering counter attacks offeriing outlets for the centre backs. When attacking Lemina and or Davis would push forward. This keeps options open for passing and switching the play. Everything revolves around a box to box attitude and plenty of crosses.
13 Jul 2016 21:25:39
He is not as good as Soares and we only need players that will push each other to perform.
15 Aug 2017 20:12:41
Not if we start making them in China ourselves for 2 bob and sell em for 50 quid after the current deal is over. #sweatshop.
30 jul 2017 21:17:32
liverpool ashamed of nothing upset by everything.
26 Jan 2017 22:49:49
As the amount of stake purchased in the club has not been announced how can you say they own the club . They are purchasing a percentage not the club. They may have an intent to buy later down the line but please wait till the facts emerge befor such rash statements. Personally i am concerened due to the companys history and unknown intent but let's see what happens.
11 Jul 2016 12:46:10
The reason people say we are a selling club is because we are. The reason people think that Katarina is lining her pockets is because the debt of 48 million whilst interest free does not seem to be dwindling at all. Hence the pocket lining. Nobody denies the club is being run well as a business, but football deals in emotions so that skews everything.
If fans want to complain then who are we to deny them that right? So you want to be a positive good sheep who follows true and straight, fair play to you, i commend you. However constantly selling 3 to five players each season runs an inherent risk of one day failing.
The season it does fail, the house could come tumbling down. I congratulate the board for what they do, but please please allow people a different point of view to your own.
02 Jul 2016 13:43:13
If his wage demands are not high he could be great influence.