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27 Nov 2016 16:30:50
How true is it Koaman wants Van Dyke, and Liverpool want Van Dyke and our Academy player Sam McQueen. and Content to Man United.

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27 Nov 2016 18:00:03
wutwut?

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27 Nov 2016 18:50:45
Man city want virgil as well. Can't imagine he would go to everton considering we have just beaten them!

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28 Nov 2016 11:24:52
Every team would be stupid not to be in for VVD. Top 3 CB in prem no doubt. Strong case for the best so rumours are always going to be strong. He will 100% stay at saints past this January and rumours are SFC are keen to hold tight past next summer also.

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29 Nov 2016 11:37:26
No way he will leave this winter - unless someone like Barcelona pay out 70 million or something ridiculous like that. I think he could be offered captain - especially if Fonte really is trying to get a final payday at MANU - which I still also doubt.

But longer than that he is definitely a champions league player - no doubt at all and he is 26 next birthday - so its his time to move on to one of the top 10 european clubs - which is not Everton or Manchester United currently. If we nick the CL - then just maybe he will stay one more season.

Just be glad we had him at Southampton for 2 years and proud that we have developed yet another world class player.

As a side debate - ED or anyone - where have all of the great defensive players gone? All of the good ones seem old now - the one young spacial talent (Stones) was snatched for £55 million - I can't recall anyone coming out of our academy with solid defensive skills Prem ready. Do we focus on developing defenders as well as the midfielders we seem good at developing? I guess we do - maybe someone who knows more about the academy could fill in - I am genuinely interested.

FU2.

{Ed001's Note - Stones is not a young special talent, he can't defend and Everton have a better youngster in Holgate. You have Jack Stephens coming through.}

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30 Nov 2016 08:21:48
At last someone agrees that Stones can't defend. I thought I was missing something! He is shocking. Just because he plays for Man C doesn't mean he's a good player. I wouldn't take him on a Free.

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24 Nov 2016 23:36:46
Fonte to Utd in Jan, hence no Europa League appearances, apparently.

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25 Nov 2016 00:32:07
CP said he had a pain in his foot so that's why he didn't play last night.

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25 Nov 2016 07:39:26
They can have him he's been acting like a spoilt brat since the euros and really bought into the hype and thinks he's bigger than the club so bye fonte jog on and be like most of the players that have bailed on us and disappeared up your own ass with a bigger bank balance.

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25 Nov 2016 15:53:13
Any evidence to back up that statement about Fonte, sfc4eva?!

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25 Nov 2016 20:20:47
How well has he played in the very few games he's played this season considering he played nearly every game last season and wanted to play them virgil plays and shoulders all the load even when he does play your not telling me peul wouldn't play them both if fonte showd the commitment.

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26 Nov 2016 15:49:39
Has Fonte's pay rise gone through yet it was never reported to say it had. I'd be pretty hacked off if I hadn't got the payrise promised.

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27 Nov 2016 09:02:32
He signed a new improved contract before last season started now he wants an even bigger slice of pie 12 months later and he's throwing his toys out until he gets it or a move away he's dilutional he thinks clubs are queuing up to take him on a mega money deal the only club that was rumoured to want him was utd strange that come to nothing after we played them joss mind games perhaps?

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27 Nov 2016 19:23:42
Jose to score next weekend, and screw Pardew!

That would be justice.

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29 Nov 2016 20:21:09
If he is sulking and trying to push a move through to Man Utd, surely he would be playing out of his skin to keep their interest? I don't imagine Fonte is the kind of player that would be like this at all, he's just had a lot of attention put on him after the euros and then utds interest. Also vvd has come on so well this season it makes Fonte look that little bit off par. He is a cracking player and has written his name in southamptons fcs history.

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24 Nov 2016 14:56:30
Ok so van dijk rumours pretty much everywhere, true or not I'm not debating, whether or not he will still be here I'm not debating. What I do question though is the 30 million pricetag. surely it's got to be north of 40 million. john stones .50 million?

{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with John Stones.}

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24 Nov 2016 18:11:20
Oh how I've missed your satire. backto your usual self I see edd. I reread my comment just to check I wasn't being thick but no definitely just making a point if a club is prepared to pay 50 million for john stones then I would imagine that would put vvd somewhere north of 40 million. I merely made a comparison.

{Ed002's Note - The price of VvD has nothing to do with the price paid for John Stones.}

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25 Nov 2016 13:37:20
John stones has set the market price city we willing to play go a young centre half that is talented. Comparisons are perfectly justified if it wasn't 40 m plus or a deal with a player we want I'm sure there will be no deal. Need to get McQueen tied down and decide if we ant to push on or stagnate if we had kept pelle we would be through and probably 6 points better off in the premier I know he wanted to go and who wouldn't for those wages but a shame with no replacement.

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25 Nov 2016 14:35:19
There was a replacement for Pelle available for €2.5million; Sandro Wagner from Darmstadt, he was the 2nd highest German goalscorer in the Bundesligue last season with 14 goals. He was interested in Southampton but is now at Hoffenheim.

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29 Nov 2016 20:25:07
I agree with ed, you can't compare stones to vvd, in fact you can't really compare any fee paid for one player to another. Stones was happy at Everton and wasn't pushing a sale through, city have money to spend available compared to many other clubs, stones is ENGLISH which makes the fee somewhat more inflated plus the term of his contract and his wages, signing on fee, agent and the window the business is done in. Plus the stage in the window that the transfer is competed makes a difference.

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30 Nov 2016 09:51:04
if stones was happy at Everton did they make him leave to got Man City. Of course a fee ha a reflection on the market price of a similar product/ person how do you think the market is formed. As do the length of the contract and the salary currently being paid and the status of the club.

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01 Dec 2016 17:28:37
I don't think a lot of people on here understand how transfers work - plus they yap up anything in the newspapers (the sun had 18 of their 20 journos say we would be relegated, daily mail said why go for an unknown like puel who will fail and get Michael O'Neil instead) .

Anyway, when buying a player the club have to payout the contract. Van dijk is on £3mil a year - times by 5 years left and that's immediately £15million in value. Now, his individual value based upon potential and current ability easily exceeds £30mil - I would put it at £40mil. So, the cheapest he will go for is £50mil, but I anticipate one of the big clubs spending closer to £60mil- there is going to Ben a massive bidding war and we're going to profit from it. No way will Liverpool be able to outbid the Manchester teams, 0"7: he won't leave in January unless a club pays above and beyond like £70million as someone mentioned.

Never listen to papers as it's all made up. Papers thought mane was worth £20mil - I told my friends £40mil and he went for £38.5mil. Luke shaw £10mil? WENt for £30mil. Paddy power are offerings 4/ 6 on Van a dijk to go for more than £50mil - so even bookies reckon it's odds on.

{Ed002's Note - This is absolute nonsense. There is no paying up of the contract.}

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15 Nov 2016 12:02:13
Daniel sturidge. that could be the 15 goals any truth to the rumors anyone think?

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16 Nov 2016 13:18:35
Wouldn't mind him it'll take a chance on berahino they can't want to keep paying him and worth asking him if he wants to come and be improved by what is clearly a very good coach.

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17 Nov 2016 15:06:01
I still haven't seen enough of berahino to know what the fuss is over? A sulky git who strops to get his way. 2 years this has rattled on with him it definitely needs to end but I wouldn't want sfc to be his next club.

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19 Nov 2016 18:42:05
If Sturridge left Liverpool, he'd go somewhere like spurs, Arsenal or possibly West Ham. We wouldn't pay his wages. They would.

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13 Nov 2016 01:06:32
Hearing the Morgan Schneiderlin could be on his way back to Saints? Sounds unlikely to me but would love him back. Any truth to this?
I've heard Palace and Spurs want him too.

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13 Nov 2016 10:23:58
I would like him to PSG or Marseille then he might get back into the France squad.

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11 Nov 2016 11:37:35
So if Van Dijk does end up going to Man U or even Liverhampton I would expect a hefty fee for him as he only signed a new long term contract. Any news of a possible replacement or who would people like to see? Me for one I would like to see him stay at least for another season.

{Ed002's Note - I would not be suprised to see Southampton move again for Matthias Ginter if they need a new centre back.}

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11 Nov 2016 16:57:57
Well if the Chinese are coming with all their dongs no one will be going anywhere.

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11 Nov 2016 19:22:55
Hope he can stay 1 or 2 season .

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11 Nov 2016 20:20:15
I think the mega contract was done for exactly that reason, ensuring we would receive top money. I think he will go at the end of the season. It even feels the media, commentators and pundits are doing the sales pitch. 40 million though surely. the thing that could make it hard is if fonte goes aswell, replacing both centre halts at the same time could be tricky. but not sure fonte is on anyone's radar. peaked?

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12 Nov 2016 15:56:56
So the media and so called expert pundits are putting virgil up for sale because he's playing well and must be too good to play for saints even though he just signed a new 5 year contract which means we don't have to sell anyone the mega sky pay out we get pays for the improved contracts that our best have signed so let them talk if we don't want to sell we will stand firm for a change and tell anyone who comes sniffing to do one.

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12 Nov 2016 21:36:01
Erm not meaning to be funny and by no way do I want it to happen but have you seen the last few years. Anyone with a cheque book has had their pickings. Whether you or I like it van dijk will not be a saints player forever. The positive is Southampton know this so have whacked a huge contract on him. Anyone ever heard of a player signing a new 6 year contract. after 6 months.

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16 Nov 2016 08:49:32
if that Chinese lot take over, we will sell and not buy, they ran at a £48m loss last year and will look to recoup that plus the buy out fee.

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19 Nov 2016 18:40:00
Luke shaw signed a long extension the year before he left for Utd. All a long contract actually does is inflate the fee of a player, not keep him. Plus Southampton are notorious in the last 10-15 years of selling players as they grow. The only positive is that very VERY few of them actually go on to achieve anything. Most of them fade away after leaving is. The exception is Bale obviously, but aside from that, who has actually left and bettered themselves? You could argue Lallana has, but not by much.

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20 Nov 2016 13:23:29
I'd say lallana has improved obviously bale and think clyne has just stayed decent like he was at saints if shaw can stay fit I think he will be special.

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21 Nov 2016 19:27:51
We said all that when Theo and the Ox left us, but my point is that very few actually do any better than they did when they were here. It's just a case of the players that are here seeing that and realising that the grass isn't greener.

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25 Nov 2016 12:59:36
Perhaps Southampton would look at Rubem Semedo and Mathias Ginter.
I'd hope they looked at Kolodziejczac, too; rumoured pre van Dijk, has worked with Puel at Lyon, getting little playtime at Sevilla yet is clearly talented.

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02 Nov 2016 22:51:57
Ends any info on this Chinese takeover? Tbh I'm a little disheartened by it if true. I like d the fact we weren't all about money and mercenaries. We were doing it our own way, Swiss owned. If we are bought out I hope we keep our values.

{Ed002's Note - Since China opened up it has thrown a massive potential market in to the mix for professional sports (not just football, but there are other growth sports as well) and a number of Chinese companies see the potential for significant income form the game. Chinese money is already flooding through football with ownership and/or investment in clubs as diverse as Inter Milan, Espanyol, Den Haag, Milan, Sochaux, Aston Villa, Milan, Atletico Madrid, Slavia Prague and significantly, City Football Group. City of course owns Manchester City, New York City, Yokohama F Marino and Melbourne City - and are looking to expand in to China and South America. For years the professional game in China was under a cloud of corruption (including match-fixing) and the Chinese, and to be fair FIFA, have worked very hard to resolve the issues. The game is on the up there and they have the money to pretty much do what they want. They now a shift will be coming in Europe and I would expect to see further investment in European sides - there is one organization looking hard at Germany and another already successful in buying in to Italy. They of course have to work within certain legal ownership frameworks and that will restrict investment in certain countries. Do not be surprised to see another English side be taken over by Chinese owners in the not too distant future (let me suggest Lander might look to Southampton as a viable option since their preferred choice is gone. Meanwhile, the profile of the game at home is increasing and the market to be tapped significant. I spent several months in Hong Kong working in both 1988 and again in 1990 and it was clear then that the mainland needed a step change and it could get leverage over so much - since then that has happened. Six months working out of Beijing in 2005 (until they pretty much forced me out) showed that changes were happening - since then I understand from colleagues who do visit that it has moved on a lot.

In terms of my personal view:

The Chinese are intent on cleaning up their act and want to promote sport within a nation that has only recently fully opened their doors to the outside world. There is a significant shift in wealth to the Far East and in particular China. They will invest and build in their own leagues and they will go to other parts of the world to learn. Chelsea has lost one player to China and has had an approach about a second. Other players from the EPL will follow with at least one Manchester City and at least one Liverpool player having opportunities in China for next season that have not been taken up - but in the longer term they will cherry pick and then look to grow. This then leads to potential movement of players within the consortia (as Udinese has done with Watford) and that is something we will see more of but there are pleanty of walls in the way based on (a) convenience, and (b) potential abuse of national or international FFP rules. They will learn from the mistakes of others and they will soon be looking to add coaching capabilities by recruiting from other leagues. It is progress - like it or not.}

The coming years will see lots of changes. You know about the pan-European breakaway proposals, well there is going to be a counter-proposal backed by UEFA to try and save their own skin which is soon to be tabled (at the end of August to the "elite" clubs and in December to everyone else). There will be more global City Football Group style collectives appearing. There will be growth in China. And so it goes.}

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03 Nov 2016 07:46:44
Wow, ed, brilliant reply. Thanks!

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03 Nov 2016 17:09:41
Cheers ed, great response. it may well be progress and it's the way the world is going. Everything just keeps getting bigger and more global, more and more money, less and less heart and soul.

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07 Nov 2016 15:06:38
China has already stated through its Premier (leader) not league! - that it would like to host the 2026 / or 2030 world cup - and is busy cleaning up its game but also investing widely in a more competitive league.

China won't want to get wiped out in the first rounds as sports excellence is a very highly held political status for China - plus Russia have a world cup too - so why can't we prevails.

Large businesses with excess capital / lent at very easy rates from Gov controlled banks - have been 'encouraged' to invest to make the league more competitive. So the Chinese investment up and to 2030 is going to be strong - however - after this date - if say China gets humiliated by getting pasted in the group stages because they have not earned through competition their starting place in the finals or if the investment situation changes and money is not so cheap and easy - then this could all come down pretty quickly once the world cup is done.

So take the Chinese investment with a big dose of forward planning for 2027 or 2031 as the tide may well go out then.

FU2.

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20 Oct 2016 13:20:40
Redmond not playing tonight.

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20 Oct 2016 16:47:29
Supposed to have a minor injury.

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18 Oct 2016 16:12:41
According to rumours we are linked with a move for a midfielder called paul-georges ntep from rennes. Anyone know anything about him?

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18 Oct 2016 14:36:11
Keep seeing online about mauro icardi being linked with Saints. I don't know if it's false or recycled or what it is. Has anyone heard anything else on this?

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16 Oct 2016 21:20:42
What do you think about saints signing memphis depay? I reckon he would do well at the club.

{Ed002's Note - They have not shown any interest and he is over-priced, so it seems unlikely.}

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17 Oct 2016 07:04:07
Probably go to Everton if they want to splash the cash. Or milan.

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17 Oct 2016 14:33:21
No thanks. We have a good balanced squad. Over ta ed and over paid.

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05 Oct 2016 19:07:18
Looks like we link with a Venezuela international ace 22y/ o from malaga.

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07 Oct 2016 14:05:29
That's where we got Juanmi from!

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02 Oct 2016 23:35:24
Can you all remember when we were baying to sign martins indi? Stoke have him now and he's rubbish.

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03 Oct 2016 14:56:02
And imbula was banded around. glad we didn't go in for him aswell.

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03 Oct 2016 15:07:01
There were a LOT of players that people thought we should have been signing, purely for the fact that someone else wanted them too. whether it's there quality, or temperament or personality or maybe a lack of consistency in their game I hope this is proving to our fans that the club knows what it's doing when it comes to player transfers. No more slating the board please.

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05 Oct 2016 10:41:43
Yeah course. Because our key signings did great for us didn't they? Osvaldo, Juanmi, Ramirez. Mane, Wanyamma. we all sign players with promise that either work out and leave or don't work out at all.

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05 Oct 2016 10:57:03
You think they would be the same players if they played and trained for us?

As a club we do get more out of most then other teams.

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26 Sep 2016 17:49:27
HATEM BEN ARFA
According to reports in the Daily Mirror, Paris Saint-Germain’s out-of-favour playmaker Hatem Ben Arfa is a target for the South Coast outfit. The 29-year-old only moved to the French capital during the summer, fresh from helping Nice, then managed by Claude Puel, to an unexpected top-four finish in Ligue.

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26 Sep 2016 18:36:36
Can't see it happening unless tadic was likely to leave. Boufal and redmond as well as tadic. I think if we are going to buy in January it needs to be a centre half and possibly a striker if j-rod can't get fit for an extended period.

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26 Sep 2016 22:27:00
we don't do lazy and age is outside of our philosophy considering current options. c'mon, realistic rumors please!

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26 Sep 2016 09:30:50
Ralph Krueger has coached his team to the final, against the odds. This is a serious achievement.

Rumours of him getting offers from the NHL, hopefully we don't lose him as chairman. I think he brings a lot of top level sporting experience to the club, albeit a different sport. But still dealing with top pro's.

Would be interesting to know how many chairmen have his kind of credentials in sport?

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28 Sep 2016 15:39:01
Ralph for England!

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