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19 Mar 2017 16:49:46
How bad is Gabbi's injury?

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25 Mar 2017 11:22:30
Was told 2-3 weeks when he did it.

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16 Mar 2017 09:10:30
I don't know if they are just preparing just in case or if there is genuinely a chance of Bertrand going this summer, but I am told that Saints are very keen on Benfica's young left back Grimaldo. Celtic are also keen as a potential replacement if they lose Tierney.

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16 Mar 2017 11:45:17
I hope not Bertrand has been immense for us but I guess everyone has a price. Do you know how much longer he has on his contract?

{Ed001's Note - 4 years I think.}

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17 Mar 2017 20:46:47
England LB, two England under 21 LBs? What a weakness.

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12 Mar 2017 11:43:22
Eds, I'm reading that we're interested in Joe Hart as Everton are keen on Forster. Any truth in this?

Personally I'd be happy with it.

{Ed002's Note - I am aware of two goalkeepers that Everton has shown an interest in but neither are Fraser Forster. I am not aware of any interest in Joe Hart from Southampton but should the club lose FF elsewhere, then Joe Hart would be a very good option - but would he want to be playing in Europe or not? The same would likely be true for Torino who would like to sign him on a permanent basis.}

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12 Mar 2017 16:03:48
Surely Everton are more interested in Hart. he'd probably cost less than forster! I'm not even harts biggest fan, but forster this year has been very poor and I worry whether his injury has effected him long term.

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12 Mar 2017 16:43:36
Yeah Milky that's what i'd have thought. But there are a few other posters who think Forster is worth 6M - 7M!

Personally, I think they're both around the £15M mark. If given a choice between the two i'd have Hart.

The Europe question is the interesting one, but I get the feeling Hart would prefer to be in the EPL, but the Euro contenders all have a world class 'keeper.

I just saw 3 or 4 links to it so thought there may be something in it.

{Ed001's Note - if Forster is worth more than 50p then football is insane. Always been a dodgy keeper and always will be as his footwork is terrible.}

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12 Mar 2017 17:02:38
Interesting review there ed001.

{Ed001's Note - a long time ago now I was having a discussion with a coach at Newcastle about why English footie was struggling to bring through good youngsters. He was saying about the problem being that players were being picked on their physical attributes still and mentioned a couple of players then at Newcastle that were evidence of it. One was a certain Fraser Forster, who went out on loan to Celtic just after. Anyway he was telling me his footwork was appalling but he was projected to be huge, so he was picked as youngster, when there were better options.

I have been watching him ever since, and the coach was right, he is big and imposing but his footwork is hopeless. That means he struggles to command his box, as he can't come out for crosses very easily. He struggles to get across the goal to stop shots he should easily get to with his build. He doesn't set himself well, so even those shots he does get to become more difficult and so he can often put it back into the danger area, when he should have been able to catch or clear it properly.

Interestingly, when he went to Celtic on loan, he only ended up signing a permanent deal after they were turned down by a few other keepers that Neil Lennon wanted to sign. He was almost a last resort signing in the end.}

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12 Mar 2017 22:45:14
So his weakness is footwork, which I actually agree with btw, that makes him "worth 50p"? I would have though footwork was a particular easy part of the game to work on quite frankly. No?

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13 Mar 2017 15:11:46
seems eds001 is a talent scout and could be the answer to the black box if it goes wrong. The reality is there are 3-4 good keepers and the rest are much of a much. Take out Courtois/ Degea and Lloris and the rest are much the same bar Butland who it remains to see how he comes back.
If we have England's 2nd choice keeper and the ex England goalie coach and we can't improve footwork its pretty sad.
as the film said opinions are like aholes and everyone has one and thinks there's don't stink. clearly saints think there is improvement to come he is certainly better than Steklenberg.

{Ed001's Note - you really are proving yourself right about people being a-holes with your comments. Why could you not disagree without being a complete tit about it? By the way, I have had numerous opportunities to work in scouting set ups in the Prem over the years, which I have chosen to reject. It is clear you have no idea what the black box actually is or what it involves, but it does involve extensive use of scouts to check out players.}

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14 Mar 2017 00:09:25
In all fairness ed001, I think saying a keeper is "worth 50p" and "hopeless and always will be" is being far more of a tit than the last fellas comment. You can't needlessly tear into a southampton player and expect a southampton fan not to defend him.

{Ed001's Note - you think that was me being a tit or just exaggerating slightly to make a point? Needlessly? I pointed out what was wrong with him, nothing 'needless' about pointing out a player's deficiencies on a football forum or are you unsure of the point of a football forum? Some of you need to grow up and try a bit of objectivity in your lives. You don't have to defend a knob who gets paid huge sums of money but fails to work on his game to improve it. Why would you even want to defend someone who is stealing your, because it is you who pay his wages either directly or indirectly, money like that?}

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14 Mar 2017 08:49:08
I think we are all aware the black box is a set up rather than a set too box I to was exaggerating similar to your 50p comment and clearly hit a nerve. The difference is fans always want there players to do there best and are reluctant to skate them. Clearly you are not a saints fan and feel the stick is the best method. Thanks for your insight and wisdom I have made several comments over the past couple of years about his weaknesses and he has hidden behind the defence. Unfortunately the board and coaches have heeded these so we are where we are.

{Ed001's Note - hit a nerve? No, if you had annoyed me it would have just been deleted. I certainly wouldn't have bothered to reply. I feel the stick is the right method because I have spent years watching these lazy mollycoddled tools coasting through life barely trying because they have so many fans telling them how wonderful they are, so they never feel they have to improve. They have everything handed to them on a plate and then everyone sits there wondering how come players like Kante, who had nothing but setbacks and constantly told he was not good enough become the best in their position. You don't improve by being told you are great and everything is wonderful. If a player gives 100% in training and on the pitch, then I will back them, no matter who they play for, as that is all you can ask of anyone. If they don't, then they deserve criticism.

Your academy is one of the best because it doesn't mollycoddle players to the extent that most do. Youngsters are expected to work their backsides off to stay in it. A friend of mine bombed out, his choice, because he couldn't handle it, and it was the right choice, because he is a knob who just wants to get wasted and do the bare minimum. Far too many players are just getting away with it and getting fans worshipping them on social media, Mamadou Sakho comes to mind, says the right things on social media so gets fan backing when they should be asking why the club was so desperate to get him out!

They have an opportunity to do something 99.999% of the population can only dream of and then they act like they are entitled to do what they want. Then you look at triathletes etc earning a pittance compared to them and yet dedicating themselves to their chosen discipline. If players were half as professional, the sport of football would be so much better, they would get less injuries and they would be at a much higher level.}

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14 Mar 2017 10:06:11
Many thanks for your insight and opinions eds however my only point would be if the academy is that tough I struggle to believe they would stop that as soon as they make the first team. Forster came out and said he wanted to push on for England no1 this year he is probably not in the top 3 when all fit now. Hart/ butland/ heaton. If we have englands ex goalie coach and this is the case one or both should clearly go. Harry lewis has potential but they sacrificed him in the arsenal game.

{Ed001's Note - Forster came through the Newcastle academy, where it is easy, which is why it has produced a string of duds who have not made anything like the impact their ability should have done. Most of them spend half their careers injured through drinking related issues as the culture is like the 80s football one of getting hammered every chance they get.

If Forster had come through at Saints, I would expect him to have a totally different attitude. A lot does come down to needing to be pushed even when they breakthrough though. Bale, for instance, was forced to push himself as he struggled at Spurs. While Walcott and Oxlade-Chamberlain have coasted through their careers at Arsenal and never made improvement over the player they were when they left Southampton.

Personally I think both coach and player are at fault in this instance. Forster lacks the drive and inclination to improve and the coach is failing to inspire him to do so. But then, how do you motivate a player with no competition and huge sums of money in the bank each week? What exactly can you do to make him work harder in training?}

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14 Mar 2017 12:53:01
More fans have recently been voicing their concerns recently regarding his form though? At least, that's what I've seen. Surely he knows that supporters are starting to be more vocal, plus the addition of a fifth I repeat FIFTH goalkeeper should kick him up his backside a bit more?
Puel should have the guts to drop him and give Mouez or even young Harry Lewis a chance. Players need to know that they need to work hard to get a chance to play. Although seeing that they still get paid even though they aren't currently in the frame, it would be hard to motivate them I guess.

{Ed001's Note - it would be nice to see a return to the kind of thinking George Graham used with regards to player contracts. Their salary was not very good but the win bonuses were huge.}

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15 Mar 2017 11:20:48
Did they get it in plain brown envelopes?

{Ed001's Note - some of it....}

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09 Mar 2017 07:20:42
The Ox looking to leave Arsenal this summer, any chance of a return or will he just be far too pricey?

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09 Mar 2017 09:53:20
Wages would probably be an issue. I imagine he would go to someone bigger who could offer a big wage, city or United. but would love to have the ox back in a central role.

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10 Mar 2017 07:44:46
I don't see him going to a top 6 team, he's unhappy at Arsenal due to lack of minutes and a move to another top 6 team would be the same for him.

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10 Mar 2017 09:45:49
Most of his lack of minutes is that he is always injured. We need players that seem to be fit all the time like Romeu.

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10 Mar 2017 13:14:06
Thats an Arsenal issue, their players always seem to be injured.

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11 Mar 2017 13:50:50
Hate to say it but there are a lot of saints players that are or have been injured recently.

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08 Mar 2017 07:22:43
Eds it seems the papers have started to theoretically tear our team apart (again) would you have any genuine info on players that might possibly leave or have actually caught the eye of bigger admirers? (Cedric to Barcelona being one? )

Personally I think we'll let go of j-rod. I think Harry reed definitely needs some experience on loan too.

{Ed002's Note - The obvious one is van Dijk who both Manchester City and Chelsea have an interest in. Cedric Soares is, I understand, on a list of potential right back targets - but he is certainly not at the top of the list.}

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08 Mar 2017 11:19:09
Cheers Ed. really hope they both stay, at least for one more season. if we can keep our squad and particularly our defense together for next year (and forster get back to form) with redmond, tadic, boufal, gabbiadini, Austin if he stays and long challenging up top (along with Gallagher and sits as youth) we should dangerous. maybe an addition in midfield. another enforcer or deep lying playmaker as cover for romeu.

{Ed002's Note - You are right Milky, Southampton will look to hold on to their players and will likely look to two or three good signings in the summer. They are constantly looking at youngsters (such as Tella) and the signs are generally encouraging.}

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08 Mar 2017 12:22:40
Good stuff cheers mate.

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07 Mar 2017 11:29:45
Vergard Forren signing for Brighton on a free.

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07 Mar 2017 18:29:12
They are paying too much!

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06 Mar 2017 16:35:22
I openly admit, I for one was not happy with the way Saints were playing under Puel. On top of that his player rotation was extreme. In fact I just felt he didn't 'get' the PL at all.

Well what can I say, he has clearly learnt very quickly, changed his formation to one he was totally unfamiliar with, having been a lover of the diamond. He has also realised that he needs to make as few changes per game to be able to survive in the PL (Even Pep G has struggled with the strength and style of the PL)

What we have now is a team playing like a team. Fluent, exciting, dynamic, skillful . an absolute joy to watch . and a striker extraordinaire! Plus signings of Boufal and Cacares. If we can keep this team together, we have an amazing team.

Just watch Gabbiadini on the ball, off the ball. His reading of an attack is quite possibly one of the best I have ever seen. Reminds me of Teddy Sheringham, Ruud Van Nistleroy . Knows when to go, when to hold, when to not go.

Les Reed said we had been watching him for several years! and what a find. While most teams seem to throw money at getting players, we have a structured, patient approach. The football in the EFL final and again against Watford, was pure football!

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07 Mar 2017 17:46:04
Well said les.

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09 Mar 2017 11:10:28
Pure football, apart from the very leaky defence.

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06 Mar 2017 13:35:43
I see fonte is still bleating on about his downward move to that MASSIVE club West ham saying the club is telling lies well I think I'd believe the club before him we don't air our dirty washing in the press unlike him so he can (and does) say anything knowing the club won't reply. Well done Jose you've got no class get over it and jog on with your semi retirement in Stratford.

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06 Mar 2017 18:37:56
I think Les was very careful in what he said. I don't think he ever said that Fonte handed in a written request and this is all that Jose seems to bang on about - the fact that he did or didn't hand in a written one.

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06 Mar 2017 21:58:48
He's been a fantastic servant of the club. He said he took a payday to secure his family's future. Nothing wrong with that, good luck to him.

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07 Mar 2017 11:15:42
I wouldn't say he was great last night. Where was he for the first Chelsea goal? Half way up the pitch and caught in no mans land as Chelsea countered:
Maybe the fact Saints are now above West Ham albeit in goal diff plus game in hand and we are banging in the goals and look nailed on for a strong finish has got him thinking!
He went for the money and its time to close this chapter.

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07 Mar 2017 22:16:00
I agree Guernseyboy, he knows he has limited time left in his career and gone for the big bucks. Having said that we wouldn't be in the PL if it wasn't for the likes of him and Adam Lallana we have to remember that . We owe them really and all this crap booing them really makes me embarressed . We as supporters need to be a bit more realistic, they were great players for us.

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06 Mar 2017 12:21:07
Isn't it funny how fast a season can change? I'm not talking about because we've won two games in row.
But with Fonte leaving and VVD being injured we're now leaking goals. However, the signing of Gabbiadini and we now seem to be scoring for fun.
What is everyone's thoughts on this?

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06 Mar 2017 12:56:54
My thoughts are that the season is over now so it's all irrelevant. We're not going down, we're not getting into europe, so I hope the people behind the scenes are making moves to get our transfer business done early for a change because there are no real distractions from here on in.

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06 Mar 2017 14:54:54
Come on Saint91, still something to play for. look at the incredible run in we had last season, we were in a similar position as we are now. The last 12 games we went 8 wins, 2, draws, 2 defeats. So anything is possible with Saints scoring freely at last, cheers.

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06 Mar 2017 15:50:34
Think he needs to put Cacares in.

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07 Mar 2017 09:59:25
I agree about Caceras. I think we should go 4-3-3 with Caceras, Romeu and Davis in front of the back 4.

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28 Feb 2017 00:23:03
What are everyone's feelings on Fraser Forster this season, I have always felt that he is a very poor goalkeeper, for his size he doesn't command his area enough and is beaten far to often from range. This season he has been mistake prone and has a very poor save percentage. The last few years we have had one of the strongest defensive records in the league which I believe has protected him from any sort of scrutiny.

He seems to be un-droppable, I fully believe that if you swap the keepers from Sunday's final we would have won the game. I would like to see us let one or two of our 5 goalkeepers go and go after a new no1 come in this summer.

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28 Feb 2017 10:49:12
Why do you think we signed the french lad, may as well get rid of keeping coach as well cause clearly not coaching correctly or Fraser not listening, wtf was he punching the ball again after what happened in the semi.

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28 Feb 2017 14:21:54
Hence a and has been a liability for a while. Apart from the odd game like arsenal he doesn't really make a tellin contribution.
His kicking is poor
His domination of the box is poor
He can't get down low quickly
He keeps getting beaten at the near post
What is going on? If he truly is in the reported 90k (I don't believe it) its shocking. He is no an under armour ambassador so doesn't look like they are ready to change him in the near future. I don't want to slate any player who plays for us but he has hidden behind a good defender for a long time till recently now the truth is coming out with injuries and transfers. I think I read he grams the worst shots on target to saves ratio for years recently in the PL.

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28 Feb 2017 17:50:37
Apparently koeman wants to buy him so maybe the money grabbing person can take him off our hands hopefully.

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28 Feb 2017 17:50:39
Are you being serious? All players have there ups and downs Forster kept us in loads of games the past few seasons. Stop slating on him. He will come good again, it's harsh picking out a single player to be bad. If the players ever read half the stuff the goes on here they wouldn't want to play for us.

Get behind the players and cheer their name at the ground when they're playing and they'll soon pick back up. It's ridiculous to say he's a terrible keeper. Last season he went on a run of clean sheets after coming back from an injury. He pulled off some unbelievable saves too. Stop the negativity please.

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28 Feb 2017 18:33:43
We don't exactly want to be negative but you can't take away the fact the he is having a poor season and it is costing us points. You need to compare him with other keepers in the league such as jordan pickford, or tom heaton who have a better save percentage and a worse defence. If he is going to get good again he has got to buck up his ideas fast!

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28 Feb 2017 19:47:12
The problem with gkers is all confidence and any mistake usually ends in a goal. If it were a period is the season or an element of his game that was below standard I would agree give him a chance. he has made some saves, but every aspect of his game has been so bad. I don't know whether it is the coaching that's making him play against how he would naturally but his punching, shotstopping, kicking and dominance is awful. I get with the height you are going to lose some mobility but you should gain dominance etc. I would be licking my lips if I were a striker because the instructions from teams will be shoot on site. if we can see it then you can be sure coaching teams and analysis teams can see it.

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01 Mar 2017 16:38:41
Good keepers should be getting 8-10 points a season not the other way around.

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02 Mar 2017 05:25:35
For those of you who are blaming FF for the third goal you seriously need to wake up. One of the best finishers was left unmarked with a free header a few yards from goal. Any keeper that saved it would have been more luck than judgement and luck isn't with him at the moment.
He is a great goalkeeper who is struggling at the moment. So help get his confidence back and get behind him. He was one of the key players that helped get us into Europe last year. He deserves our support now.

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02 Mar 2017 06:48:38
Would love to know which games, because after the arsenal game away in which he seemed to come back a different player the next three games we had a grand total of three shots on target against us any keeper with a good cdm and back four would have good stats that's why he is being found out now, should be more demanding especially with this makeshift defence.

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26 Feb 2017 23:53:07
Well played today lads. Your team were a credit to you.

I'm delighted Utd won but you deserved something for your efforts.

Great player in Gabiadini hopefully he won't end up in a Liverpool shirt.

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21 Feb 2017 17:27:57
Harry Maguire from Hull. We have been linked before.

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21 Feb 2017 06:39:32
Apparently, Barcelona are watching Cedric Soares, they have him on their list of potentials to solve their full back problems since Alves left. ( source, telegraph)

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16 Feb 2017 22:58:18
At last Caceras comes. Could be the signing of the winter. We create chances and in Monolo we have a finisher, now our weakened defence through sales and injury have a bit of backbone, and more importantly, competition. Caceras is good, because he will force the other potential centre backs to perform at their best or they won't be in. Debut in the final?

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17 Feb 2017 17:57:03
Bout time this deal was wrapped. I hope he has a great time and have something to cheer him up after the death of his brother.

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18 Feb 2017 09:30:15
I agree, shame about his brother. I wish him all the best at saints.

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16 Feb 2017 20:55:51
Saints sign Cáceres. I hope it works out for us come next weekend.

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16 Feb 2017 23:13:29
He'll be the new Dave Watson for us.

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