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31 Jul 2018 09:56:20
Any INs/ OUTs before the window shuts, Eds? Targett? Lemina? Any CB? Any striker? (OUT) How about INs? Are we still in for the CB? Santos, Mina? Wingers? Ghezzal? Kostic? Any new AMC/ ST coming? Seems Forster will go out on loan to Burnley.

{Ed002's Note - It remains more or less as I explained.}

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01 Aug 2018 12:24:18
Apparently we are now interested in Moussa Marega from Porto (22 goal in 29 games last year) for about £22m.

And Newcastle/ West Brom talks over Rondon have broken down.

Regardless of whether Fulham sign Targett or not surely we have to make a strong effort to bring in a striker.

Haven't we?

02 Aug 2018 14:29:24
We are very stupid if we let Targett go. We are crying out for another CB. Apart from Vestergaard all the other CBs just not good enough for the PL and Hughes likes to play with 3 CBs.

We also need a striker. Austin and Gabbi are good enough, but we need a target striker! Long haven't convinced. Sam is?

Another winger wouldn't hurt either. Moi clearly good enough for the PL. Armstrong looks bright! Davis and Romeu are?

02 Aug 2018 20:12:56
I'd really love to know where Sam Gallgher stands with saints.

I think he's looked bright in the small number of minutes sparky has given him and I don't think he could do any worse than Shane Long unfortunately. He's played tough Championship football with struggling sides that have had managerial changes left, right and centre and still managed to score a handful. Albeit, hasn't scored a huge number but has had difficult cirumstances on loan to Blackburn and Birmingham who both struggled for form at the time.

I'd be very disappointed in Saints if they were to let him go because it seems like a prime oppurtunity for his chance in the squad. Although I agreed it would be a risk, but I want to see Saints go back to when we were taking chances on our homegrown players because it has paid off. I'd also like to mention whilst i'm on the subject that Targett has been absolutely fantastic in this pre season and needs to be kept in my opinion and i'm really hoping Targett, Gallagher, Sims, Reed and McQueen get their chances this season and do us proud.

That's my thoughts on some of our younger players and homegrown players, i'm not saying they should be starting just because they're from our academy, all i'm saying is that they may have something to offer.

First time poster so be nice lol.

03 Aug 2018 03:09:53
We have to keep Targett. His stint at Fulham sparked his confidence and we saw glimpses of what he could do when Koeman temporarily switched to a back three back then. Shift Bertrand to the left of a back three or sign Gibson, let Targett and McQueen battle out the left wingback spot. Find a buyer for Long and sign a proper target man.

03 Aug 2018 05:36:55
Agree totally with both previous replies. I'd keep all the mentioned "youngsters".

Only problem with Bertie on LCB is that he's best going wide forward and sending inch perfect crosses like the one for McQueen in Celta game. Even though he might be our best CB after Vestergaard.

Lille's RB in rumours so maybe Cedric leaving?

But we have many questionmarks. Yoshi? Bednarek? Hoedt? Stephens? Romeu? Davis? Redmond? Long? Currently good enough for the PL?

03 Aug 2018 17:41:38
Romeu is perfectly good enough for the prem.
Redmond simply needs more fan support and the right coaching. he's 24 so has time on his side. Long needs to go and probably Davis only really on account of his age. Stephens Bednarek and Hoedt also need the fans behind them more. Yoshi can still do a decent job but wouldn't be problem if he goes. I believe generally that this transfer windows been good, at least better then last one and players in general need more belief and support instead of crap aimed at them. like to see youth used more this year.

03 Aug 2018 17:48:26
Think we're being a bit harsh on Stephens here. There's potential there, and CB's often develop later.

It's time to just keep Gallagher and see what happens. The loan system serves a purpose, but it's time for him to sink or swim. That doesn't mean start him, it just means keep him around and give him whatever opportunities he can earn in training (Cup games, injury fill-ins, etc. ) .

04 Aug 2018 13:19:36
3 of our centre backs are very young and all have great potential. Most CBs don’t fully develop until they are in their middle 20s.

31 Jul 2018 01:42:39
Eds is it true that Burnley are looking to take Forster on loan after the injury to Pope?
I don't think there's any chance he'll dislodge Heaton as replacement and Burnley already have Lindegaard and Legdzins in their ranks to back him up so would they really need another goalie?

{Ed001's Note - they are looking over the possibilities about what to do at the moment, but they have not made any moves to sign a keeper that I am aware of. The big worry is that Heaton might suffer a recurrence of his injury.}

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31 Jul 2018 16:23:27
I won't hold my breath, then. Thanks, Ed001.

{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}

29 Jul 2018 16:10:47
ALLEGEDLY Paco Alcacer interested in a premiership team any idea who that might be . Heard Watford possibly. Hope you can help ED, and thanks for all your hard work you put in.

{Ed002's Note - I don't know who interest him but of the interested sides, Leicester and Southampton offer him the best options. There might be a chance Everton enquired. I am not aware of an approach from Watford but they have enquired about a loan for an EPL forward so they are looking.}

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29 Jul 2018 17:13:44
Many thanks ED.

25 Jul 2018 23:01:53
What's everyone's thoughts on the current transfer window for us for us? We haven't been very convincing in preseason.
It's an odd one, we've clearly now used up all of the VVD money, hence why MH has said to the press we won't get any new players until we sell them. If that's the case, how come we've let 3 players go out on loan. Do you think the board don't want to take the potential transfer loss?

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26 Jul 2018 07:08:44
Personally, I don't read too much into preseason results.

We let players go on loan because its the smarter long-term move. Players with potential can go, and potentially excel and improve their transfer value, rather than selling people like Boufal and Carillo while their value is at an all-time low. Also, football finances just don't work as simply as fans like to make out. In getting these players off the wage bill, the board will see it as freeing up £X million. Transfer fees don't tend to be the most expensive part of a signing, and in accounting terms football clubs view them as being spread over the length of a player's contract. So when we sign a player for £10m, and £2 mil a year for 5 years, the club will view this as £4mil per year (this too is simplified of course) . By loaning Clasie, Boufal and Carillo, the board will have freed up, for argument's sake, £5mil in this years accounts which they have the option to invest. So it does still help our finances in the short term.

26 Jul 2018 08:51:32
Loans free up some wages (can only increase a certain amount each year due to FFP regs) whilst keeping the player on our books so if they have a great season they come back to us full of confidence or worth more if we sell on. If they have a terrible season it's no worse than them sitting on the bench/ not even making the squad.

26 Jul 2018 15:30:15
Seems like we've brought in replacements for players that have been loaned out apart from up the front where in my opinion was the place that needed most improvement. I don't think that we have enough firepower in front of goal.

21 Jul 2018 12:33:53
I've heard Aspas of Celto Vigo is being tipped to come to the saints think this would be a great option for us.

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21 Jul 2018 15:00:39
Now that Everton have signed richarlison (pants pulled down! Lol) I'd really like to see us go for lookman.

22 Jul 2018 22:21:07
Agree on both of these. Although I've not seen any mention of Aspas, and it seems really unlikely we'd be able to get him.

19 Jul 2018 17:26:53
I have a friend who is part of the scouting team at Wolves (which according to him has been made fairly redundant now) and I asked him if Wolves were looking at Danny Welbeck now that Arsenal are looking to shift him on. He said he hadn't heard anything for them, but apparently he heard that Southampton are looking at him, though could be priced out of a move.

This is more or less third hand information but thought I'd pass it on in case it turns out to have any substance. Don't know if the ed's here could expand on it at all?

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19 Jul 2018 19:01:01
Thanks for the info mate and for being up front about potential flaws in the source! Wish more people did that instead of pretending they're Les Reed's best friend lol.

19 Jul 2018 20:05:06
I'd take him, but only at a VERY reasonable price.

19 Jul 2018 22:55:17
I wouldn’t take him the guy couldn’t hit a cows a** with a banjo.

20 Jul 2018 13:41:40
I'm quietly hoping we don't sign another striker and give Same Gallagher a proper go. I think he could be a great striker if given the time, he's already proven himself a goalscorer in the Championship and between him and Austin I can see us getting goals.

20 Jul 2018 16:57:56
Yeah I would like to see the same thing sham. however I do also think it would be nice to see Gabbi have a good season as well. Between those three we could see a few goals. Still hoping for Long to go though. Just hope Gabbi gets decent service and that Austin stays fit. Have to admit I don't really know much a bout Gallagher though apart from the fact that he's big and can finish quite well. Be glad as for more enlightenment as to the man.

20 Jul 2018 19:37:20
I disagree with the long out views. I think he was great for us down the left wing. He creates so many problems for defences with his pace, pulling away playwrs allowing a striker to slot home. I don't see him as a goal scorer but that of a problem on the pitch for defenses.

23 Jul 2018 10:35:32
Yeah brilliant at creating problems and running round like a headless chicken, but his finishing is poor and also seems to create problems for us a well.

23 Jul 2018 14:30:36
Gallagher is big and he is a strong player, but his height kind of makes him a misleading player. He is absolutely not a big target man type. He is quicker than he looks and it's his tenacity, stamina and persistence that really do it for him, alongside good movement and awareness. He's more like a traditional poacher with the added height.

He's been a fairly regular goalscorer in the champ with teams that weren't great. Give him some good service and I think he's exactly what we're looking for; a Charlie Austin-type whose legs don't fall off every 20 minutes.

No sense in not trying it as it's not like we have to sign him to find out. Keep hearing that we're going to sell him but I think that's something we'd regret if he goes to a team who can get the ball in to him. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be angry if we sold him and replaced him with someone 'better', I just think right now it's a case of the grass always being greener kind of thing, which is not the Southampton way at all.

25 Jul 2018 06:16:29
6 goals isn't a "regular goalscorer" record. But to be fair that was with birmingham. Scored sweet fa with the dons although he reached double figures with blackburn, just barely. 11 goals is his most prolific record a season and he's reaching an age where I feel he shouldn't be considered a hot prospect anymore. I like the kid but I'm not sure he's going to the player fans want him to be. I'd love to be proven wrong though.

18 Jul 2018 16:23:14
Hi Ed's, do you think we might sign Danny Ings despite it recently being said that saints aren't interested?

{Ed001's Note - not unless the price drops.}

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19 Jul 2018 07:11:34
Agree with that to be fair. Think Ings would be a good signing, but if the rumoured £20m asking price is right then that seems like a hell of a lot for someone that injury prone, and who has barely played in 2 years.

19 Jul 2018 10:27:41
Really think we should be looking at Gameiro from athletico he’s dropped behind griezman and now costa so will be desperate for game time but most importantly he knows where the goal is.

19 Jul 2018 20:07:46
I think. he's too similar to what we have (gabbiadini) and way too lightweight for the prem. We need a focal point for our attack. We've got a poacher (austin) we've got someone who can run in behind or off the wing given the right service (gabbi) we've got a defensive forward that will run the channels and press high and do the dirty work (long) we need a target man. We've got Gallagher but I don't think he's ready yet.
Eds do you know of anyone we've shown an interest in that fits that description?

16 Jul 2018 23:55:51
Jose Fonte now a free agent. Useful squad player or over the hill/ don't need? Can see it from both sides myself.

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17 Jul 2018 04:41:11
Hi 91 we robbed west ham when we got £8m for him from them so let him retire gracefully, the world cup showed his football career is over
Regards vs.

17 Jul 2018 16:49:39
Yeah I agree with VS. Seems like we'd be signing him for the sake of nostalgia rather than because we think he'll help move us forward.

He left in an ugly way as well, I say leave that chapter closed.

17 Jul 2018 20:58:29
Fonte has got 1 maybe 2 seasons at best so no it's not the southampton way.

18 Jul 2018 09:24:12
I don't even think he's got that to be honest pony.

19 Jul 2018 07:11:57
He had 1-2 years left 3 years ago.

16 Jul 2018 22:23:21
The daily echo and adam blackmore have claimed the links for danny ings are completely false and saints have no interest in him at this time. we are clearly in need of a new striker, and will carillo gone someone must be on their way. But who?

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15 Jul 2018 07:55:05
According to today's news we have made official bid to sign Danny Ings! 💪💪💪 Any truth in this, Eds?

{Ed001's Note - I don't know about any bid, but they very rarely happen these days so you can ignore the term really. Certainly Saints are amongst a number of clubs who have enquired and been given a number if they want to sign him. No idea or interest in talking finances or what the numbers are, but I was told Southampton are one of a number who have not been put off by the amount and it will be down to Danny himself to choose between the teams interested. He would have, out of choice, preferred to stay in the north-west, but that looks unlikely, with Bournemouth and Soton two of the main interested parties, but I wouldn't rule out a return to Burnley because of their location. They also have European football and Sean Dyche to make up for their lower wages. There is also Newcastle and Fulham to consider.}

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15 Jul 2018 09:31:40
Thanks, Ed!

{Ed001's Note - welcome.}

15 Jul 2018 09:49:43
Why would he want to stay in north west? His family are from Winchester he has friends in Southampton he is a Southerner so why do you think he is so enamoured with the North West? He will go where they pay him the best money.
Mike southampton.

{Ed001's Note - because he has lived and settled down there over the last few years playing for Burnley and Liverpool I presume. How on earth would I know why he prefers the area? If it was all about money to him, he could have gone for a lot more money than Liverpool's offer. The lad is happy with what he has monetarily, it is about his career and personal happiness for him. He joined Liverpool to achieve a dream, and now it has not worked out, he just wants to go and play footie. It is not about who pays him the most, it is about first team football or he would be staying put and earning double the salary at Liverpool that he would get at any of the teams interested in him. Perhaps you should not make judgements on people you clearly do not know at all.}

15 Jul 2018 15:15:18
DIngs is from the southampton local area, supported Southampton as a boy, and probably (probably) therefore still supports Southampton now. He’ll sign.

Hopefully!

Also, I’m pretty happy with the other signings made so far this summer - Angus Gunn (tick), Jannik Vestergaard, Stuart Armstrong, (this is will be a challenege for both predictive text and spell-check. ) Mohamed Elyounoussi - all good quality, could prove to be good value for money signings and longer term as well as there here and now. Looking good for the new season ahead. To be lucky enough to sign Danny Ings to that would really top it off. Positive

Also, finally while I’m here and talking football - I’ve got to say a big congratulations to Gareth Southgate and his England squad. National pride restored, and has actively connected us all with the Three Lions again

It’s Home

All the best everyone

Saint Etienne.

15 Jul 2018 18:32:48
Lallana was/ is supposedly an Everton fan, grew up around the south coast and still wanted to go to liverpoo. Plenty of players have played for rivals of who they supposedly support.

This country's not very big, it takes a relatively small amount of time to get from one end of the country to the other, I highly doubt proximity to family/ friends plays a part in where a player chooses to play

This logic of "oh they're from such and such a place, they support such and such a team, they'll go there" is silly.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love for Ings to sign, but he's going to go where he gets the most of what's important to him, whether that's game time, money, Euro football, sentimentality, whatever.

{Ed001's Note - it is game time he is after.}

16 Jul 2018 10:03:01
Adam Blackmore has tweeted saying just whispers and no truth behind Saints and Ings.

Not a great signing anyway if it was to be true.

 


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