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09 Dec 2017 07:48:28
Apparently, Saints have been watching and are very interested in FC Basel forward Mohamed Elyounoussi. Have you heard anything about this Eds?
I think only XXLs will be buying his shirt if he does join!

{Ed002's Note - Mohamed Elyounoussi has been watched by Southampton and Newcastle on a couple of occasions recently.}

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05 Dec 2017 22:19:44
there is a rumour that Fernando Torres wants to sign for either Saints or Newcastle on loan. is there any truths in this and also what does everyone feel if this is true?

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06 Dec 2017 08:01:05
Not sure we could afford him but he knows where the goal is and I think it would be a massive boost to our strikers with his experience he could teach a lot. He has won a lot and I think his mentality could either be great for our morale or very bad if we don't perform with him at the club. I personally think it would be a very big gamble in that respect. We can't feed the strikers we have with the right balls just now. Could be a rumour with him having played with both managers before, 2+2 is 4 -1 that's 3 quick maths. Could just be that though a rumour.

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06 Dec 2017 16:09:17
I can see him going to Newcastle . big salary and would suit them. not a typically saints kind of player or transfer.

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09 Dec 2017 08:02:03
I read and posted a few weeks ago, that he had actually been offered to Southampton . How true this is I don't know? Torres ( I hate to Say) was one of my all time favourite players to watch when at Liverpool, Majestic and Lethal and for that reason only, would welcome the signing.

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27 Nov 2017 08:59:33
surprised no one's blaming Forster for Everton's goal.

"He's 6 foot 7 he should be reaching the top corner from the opposite side of the goal. What use is having a big 'keeper if he can't do that? "

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27 Nov 2017 13:34:02
Yes sainty saint, I have been saying for ages the only reason people are moaning about forster is because we are not scoring goals and the poor guy gets the blame. don't get me wrong he should shoulder some blame but its like I said to a friend after the burnley game, if we scored 3 goals would any one have moand about the 1 goal burnley scored?

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27 Nov 2017 16:26:10
Its probably the fact he's rumoured saints top earner and you expect something from a premier league gker. What he loses in mobility he should make up for in commanding his box and scaring the s@*t out of anyone going near him or his goal. he obviously has allowed his form to dip, hence being dropped by the England squad. He looks half assed at best. nonchalant would be the nicest word I could use to describe him. although there is an air of arrogance. He does a job sure but would like a decent back up option to keep him on his toes and keep him working hard.

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27 Nov 2017 17:18:41
Wow it's always tough to remember nobody is perfect! But I think the the placement of their goal was perfect mind you! You may agree or not?

Forster does need to hard on his acceptability to let in the long shots but apart from that I think many of us have been overbearing in our criticism towards him.

No doubt that's partly due the results we've been getting of late. Why any of the other so called England goalkeepers are ahead of him simply amazes me!

Pickford was outstanding for England last week mind you. However his Everton form shouldn't put him ahead of our man nor can hearts form! For that matter.
Some of our supporters have forgotten what it was like being a Saints fan when we was relegation fodder for most of the 1990's maybe they wasn't born. so can't possibly remember.
I can it was fun beating the odds season after season.

However, we have move on from those days and we expect more! But maybe we should start to point out more often our players finer points. It's easy to pick holes in others when mistakes are made.

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28 Nov 2017 18:03:50
Whether the criticism has been over the top or not, if you think Forsters performances this season have been acceptable, you need a trip down the opticians.

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29 Nov 2017 11:54:11
It is well known that people had big doubts about FF when he was at Newcastle. Big parts of his game have not improved and I honestly believe that with a better goal keeper, we would have more points on the board.

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30 Nov 2017 13:02:33
Quoting his Newcastle career is totally out of context firstly he was young and still learning his craft secondly when was the last time Newcastle produce a world class players
from their academy.?
he needed to go to Scotland for that!

I'm not claiming he' s without fault he cleanly has frailties but I am looking to my follow Saint fans for a balanced approch to their views in fairness of criticism toward any of our players! We should always be mindful that we supporters of our club and it's players e. g. can you say he is worst than west ham's Heart or Everton's Pickford both are ahead of him international?
Personal I wouldn't.
I would like to see us avoid emotional criticism towards our players other wise we risk being looked appon as people like Donald Trump unhinged.!

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01 Dec 2017 15:59:01
It’s why they sold him!

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02 Dec 2017 16:53:54
4theloveofgame - it is you that has taken my post out of context. If you re read my comment it isn’t all factual. As saint0001 said, they sold him for a reason and since then, he has not improved as the faults remain. I think you will find my comment was both balanced, fair and factual. Like you said at Newcastle he could blame his age, not any more!

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02 Dec 2017 18:19:00
Yes sorry, it was me hands up! My apologies.

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19 Nov 2017 17:49:54
Hi guys just read the match review on here from a Liverpool perspective and Saints were described as abysmal, no attacking threat and scathing about, Van Dyck, Bertrand, Cedric and their defensive capabilities. It doesn't make pretty reading, I feel sorry for our fans who travelled up yesterday and watched that s---. I think the club should offer to refund them at least!

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20 Nov 2017 09:36:36
If anyone should know about a lack of defensive capabilities it is Liverpool. They were alright testamerday as we had no attacking threat. They also had mane Henderson and Coutinho back so that wasn’t great timing from us. I don’t think it’s down to the manager as it wasn’t down to puel last year I think it’s time for a major shake up and if we can get 60 odd m for VVD after paying off the hoops we should sell him and move in . The whole team appear to be playing with fear and yet again tadic makes one mistake and Salah scores a great finish we need some out an out pace up from and that makes teams keep some players back for the break away and we don’t have that. Survival this season then we need a serious reorg after that.

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23 Nov 2017 03:12:38
I toldly disagree! Sorry. but our manager isn't the right man for us it seems. we all know this is a result business however far more important something is the performance it's self! If we played well but lose we can handle that no worries.

On balance I think we saint fans do not tend to rush and press the panick button when things start going wrong. After all those of us who are long in the tooth have been there and seen it all before.

That said we've had the best opportunity for years to get a good start to the season with the team's we've played. No game is easy of course but tactically our manager is up the river without a paddle. No shots on or off target in a few games this season already? These poor performances is down to lack of conference our players have in the manager and his style of play he has asked of them.

I see some of you blame the players for their efforts and form that's a shame when we've all seen them play outstanding for us in past! Do they become poor players over night? Or might it be something to do with the board selling some of our world class players and losing a couple world class managers by doing so.


I will always be greatful to Markus and KL but it can be safely said she has had a exit plan for sometime. But We are in a
far better place because of them. So they have my respects. KL has the profits so win win end of.

We may need to go through the same process with the new owners as well in time we will see if that is to come true. Only they will need to claw back around 300 million! To do so.

Time to be ruthless get rid of the manager asap replace with Koeman!
Remember the top six teams rarely lost a world class players season after season like we have and still move forward like we did. The board may of felt confident after hitting the jackpot a few times but nobody keeps winning all the time.

World class players don't grow on trees. Sale one and the others lose faith in the board and club as a whole. That is what happen here!
Reality bites.

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26 Nov 2017 19:01:19
So today same players and manager and u still don’t disagree he didn’t gloat or told you so but just reiterated his beliefs and mantra the team played well 1-11 regardless and the crowd helped. Let’s joinn forces behind him he could be anything and the Clive be anything with him. Bring back koeman are you taking the piss everyone players and staff hated him. I’d rather stick than twist at the moment.

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27 Nov 2017 17:52:09
Ok we will have to agree to disagree about Kidman yourviews are just as important as my are.


What I personal liked about koeman was the way he handle the media personally I hate them generally as they are parasites.

I couldn't possible know if the players hated him as you said as that's hear say! The fact remains he got us in Europe which ment he got results. Which ment he did job well like him or not!

The reason we didn't progress well in Europe was because wanmama antics refusing to play! Who's to blame for that?

As for Norman's short lived Everton career wow after one season he took them forward masively leapfroging us!

Then giving him just 9 games this season to gell together so many new players is nonsense! Just because their new chairman is ex KGB Russian.

{Ed001's Note - he was sacked because he was an arrogant tit who was hated by the players and staff at the club. He refused to fulfil his contracted obligations with regard to community activities, both at Saints and Everton and was roundly hated by all the staff at both. Nothing to do with your nonsense about the new chairman, when the Everton chairman is in fact the same one, Bill Kenwright, who has never been anything to do with the KGB. Why spout such ignorant lies?}

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28 Nov 2017 10:32:05
Ok sorry for the misunderstanding on Everton chairman front: kenwright has always been a cool guy. So it's my mistake but I was trying (badly) to reference Everton's controling owner e. g. the one with the real power! He is connected in Putin and the k. G. B and his money. So said a T. V documenty I saw two weeks.

As for his refuseal to fulfilling his contact with us you are again correct!
However, I blame both party's for this. firstly Koeman, yes he not without blame.

But I blame our board mostly. Because they had the power! But they chose to showed weakness instead. Letting him go for 5 million to Everton, when he got us in Europe. Therefore under valuing the job he did for us.

If our clubs board showed some consistances which I feel they must.

The answer every single time should be the same. Which is your under contract your going nowhere full stop! Which means he couldn't of excepted the Everton job in the first place.
Losing 5 million compo would mean little to a club our size at the end of the day. Showing some balls and consistencey would prove a point to the media, players and managers alike. Stop messing with us.

let players contacting run down if they wish to move at the end it fair play. If we pay 18 million for a player who score 20 plus goals per season and signed Five contact his value to us is approx 3.6 million a season real worth ( plus wages) peanuts! In the footballing world today.


As for your claim all the staff and players didn't like him one bit if true ( again that is hear say)
Please point me towards a video clip to watch to prove your point?
Then I'll give your view some weight.
That said nobody gets on with everyone all the time. Frankly it's not his job to be liked nor is it the most important personal quailtly to have in a manager Getting job done is.! Nobody can argue he took us forward therefore did his job well.
Koeman took us forward in both his season with us! Otherwise Everton wouldn't of headhuntered him.

I'm short I'm not asking you to like him just merely respect the great job did for us.

Frankly in a fantasy world if I was in the saints manager Job I'll be hard nosed about it full stop! I'm not the type person to start Licking players asses. Tell them to Shutup your paid to do a job get on with it! If you refuse to play I will break them. Likewise I'll deal with media in the same way ( have they shown us respect)
In my view No! So I wouldn't be showing them respact. It is better to be feared as a manager then liked.

{Ed001's Note - whatever. Your ignorance is astonishing, which is no wonder as you are dismissive of anyone else's view. I really can't be bothered with you. It is pointless talking to someone who doesn't want to listen so I won't.}

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29 Nov 2017 11:50:04
I am just impressed Ed managed to understand this.

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30 Nov 2017 10:07:34
4thelove, it was well documented that koeman was strongly disliked by first team players, some staff and pretty much all the younger players.

I believe the quote from mane was "he's an arrogant asshat". Koeman got lucky to not get sacked by saints. If it wasn't for Shane long going on a goal scoring run (hard to believe I know) a couple of years ago that pulled us up the league, koeman could have lost his job then.

He absolutely tore Matty targett to shreds in front of the whole squad, ward-prowse hated him. Even for a Dutch bloke koeman is arrogant and it was only a matter of time until things turned very sour at everton. Koeman is great for a season, and then things tend to go wrong for him.

At saints he did sod all community work, refused to promote any youth players, and didn't spend long enough at the training ground or on the pitch. seems he made those same mistakes at everton too. Getting 5-6 million for him was bloody good business for a manager who refused to commit to us and sign a new contract. This information was leaked over 18 months ago. But obviously because there are no videos of staff confirming it, it's all rubbish? Jeez.

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30 Nov 2017 13:54:26
MilkySaint you make some fair points here!
well said I take on board. However note no youth player has broken through since he's left so maybe he had a point here in his views.

I do recall mane turning up late for training a couple of times as well so has reason to dislike him for fining him and dropping him as well.

As for comminity work I can't be sure he refused to all that was asked of him but do know he came to look at young youth player here in Botley for some one on one training a few times.

I can't support his actions towards Matt Target even though I personal think Matt will never be of premiere quaitly. As I believe he'll be soon be sold on.

Also I can't agree with you in hindsight can you honestly say another season under Koeman wouldn't of been far better then it was under C. P?
and the flat boring season we had?
No with all his faults another season under Koeman over the season we had with C. P and a possible another season in Europe would be my personal choice.
It's also about our apporch of forcing managers, players to honour their contacts!
invoking this consinsdencely would mean we wouldn't need to put up with player saga's season after season.
we've put up with this s. t for years
believe me when I say if I was The Saint manager in a fantasy world I would told V. V. D your never be sold by Southampton nor will you play for as again forcing him to wait until he was 30 years to play a professional game again only then when we are perpare to rueing a player will we get the respect we deserve.

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03 Dec 2017 12:39:21
It's not the managers choice. It's down to the board. After selling lallana etc and fans kicking off we has to set a precedent and tell vvd he's going nowhere.

Last season we had McQueen and sims come in to the squad and play Well. If they can continue to improve then they are potential first team players in the next couple of years.

As for last season under puel, we finished 8th in the league and reached the league cup final (which we deserved to win) without key injuries to vvd and Austin and without the jose fonte issue maybe we'd have done even better.

We told koeman to stay and sign a new contract to show his commitment. He didn't want to so we replaced him. How can you expect players to sign new deals and commit if the manager refuses to do So?

So no, I don't think another season under koeman would have been "far better". it could have been far worse.

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04 Dec 2017 13:57:01
You can't really expect any manager to commit themselves to Southampton at the time with our track record of selling some of best players season after season?
when they have ambision of their own which isn't being reciprocated at the club they are at!

Ok we got to a final fair play to C. P and we played well in that match and we was unlucky to lose you are correct. One match doesn't make season of watching boring entertainment value football.

The fact for most of the season it was boring to watch sideways passing just to keep the ball. Finishing 8th on a total of 46 points over koeman's two season finishes of 7th 60 points high tempo style and pleasing to watch follow by a 6th on 63 points total. if that isn't going backwards I don't what is?

The fact remains players and in some cases managers don't have the time in their careers to wait around till everything fits into place for them to succeed where they are at. In hindsight I am sure Koeman thinks he should of stayed here with us. At the time I bet he thought he was being undermined. His efforts not truely valued.

But Everton fc offered him more personal money and more money to spend on the squad. However, if we stop! and thought about it.

Poeple/ owners at Everton also tend to be impatient. Success is required now! And needs to be Constancely moving forward progress all the time.

Koeman couldn't deliver that so was sacked by Everton's controling owner!
Interesting to note That Everton have just replace him with the person who finished one place behind koeman in 7th in the season 14/ 15 who was sacked in that year at west ham? For playing borning style of football.

Doesn't that make you wonder how lucky we have been to of had Markcus and Kat as our owners these last few years?

No in hindsight I'll take Slow, steady and balance progress over the poker style of Everton owners today for sure.

while it maybe difficult for me to except we have needed to lose many a world class player to remain where we are today a mid table team. Note none of our ex players have won anything yet in their careers since leaving us! So maybe we are all wrong sometimes. We easily forget the club itself is the most important thing in the end. The caretaking roll Markcus and K. L have done for the club and supporters has been fantastic and we need to step back and try to remember that.

We may lose a few world class players and managers along the way but they are not the most important thing to hold on to the club is forever a deadicated follower of Southampton.

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04 Dec 2017 19:28:49
I agree with that completely 4thlove.
Many fans have moaned about us selling lallana etc but we needed to in order to build a squad capable of staying in the league and also improving. Without lallana, Lambert, Lovren and Shaw being sold (for well over their value) we wouldn't have got mane, pelle, alderweireld-van dijk- bertrand, romeu, hoedt, probably forster, Cedric, Austin, gabbiadini, lemina. It's progression. what have the players done since they left us? . mane looks potentially world class. Lallana has improved but is very injury prone. everyone else has done sod all since and look half the players they were with us. We've built steadily. Yes, last season was poor by our standards. but poor still got us to 8th, a cup final and we should have gone further in Europe. the board recognised this and replaced the manager at the end of the season. not mid season panic and getting Sam allardyce in! I like the way our club is run. but football is not an exact science. Sometimes things work out and sometimes they don't. We learn and we build and we progress. That's the Southampton way.

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06 Dec 2017 10:52:27
MilkySaint, I am in complete agreement with your views, here! Non the less it's challanging time being a being Saint fan putting up media exploits of continually undermining our snakes and ladders progress. Up one minute down the next.

I wonder if you was Saint manager what would you do in the january and summer Windows?

if you was given the resources required to allow you do whatever you wished keeping it within the bounds of reality of course.

That said it's hard to know if our new majority owners will keep to same ideals we have had these last sevenal seasons?

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06 Dec 2017 16:59:10
I'd like to see us move tadic on and attempt to get a quality, creative number 10 type player. someone with a little bit of pace too. someone like lanzini would be within our budget and who I think could improve the team. I'm sure there are more and possibly better alternatives in europe.

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14 Nov 2017 07:26:49
So ED'S any ins or outs you think will happen surely VVD to Liverpool has to start as with a new window the tapping up is a thing of the past and they can make an offer without fear of a complaint.

{Ed002's Note - Why would the "tapping up" be a thing of the past? The complaint still sits on file. They formally withdrew all interest at the same time they apologised - would they be withdrawing their apology? If so then an offer is possible butLiverpool have been looking elsewhere at centre backs. Southampton want to add a striker - Paco Alcacer has been trying to force a move out of Barcelona and they will accommodate that once they have a replacement - the summer would be more likely and although Southampton are interested, he will have potentially more attractive options elsewhere. A loan for Stevan Jovetic has been suggested but if he moves I think Newcastle will provide a home, thereby freeing up Aleksandar Mitrovic who would be a good option.}

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14 Nov 2017 15:20:33
thanks Eds I assumed clearly wrongly that they could argue a change of position now its a different window and make some reason without fear of reprisal. As no formal offer was put forward I thought it would be difficult to prove rumour and speculation. Would love Mitrovic who has masses of potential would be cheap but is clearly a bit hot headed. Be nice to see a saints forward roughing up the defence for a change, he could develop into anything so potential which suits the model.

{Ed002's Note - It wasn't rumour and speculation, Liverpool again acted illegally and what Klopp did was entirely unacceptable. If they wish to finally make an offer for the player the owners who yet again trailed slime to the door of another side to give a grovelling apology in order to avoid charges will be an absoolute laughing stock. The complaint remains on file.}

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15 Nov 2017 11:53:37
Finally, after all the speculation I was wondering where are we are all at?
As supporter's in this day and age should we remain loyal to players? Like the old days. Through think and thin or should we adapt to the mindset of players like v. v. d who clearly felt our club had or has no real desire to truly win anything over the need to make a profit first and full most!

What am I talking about? Well in my view I am bother that Shane long works like a dog in every match but hasn't been effective in doing his job ( scoring goals or helping others to score. ) yet the club sold Saido Maine who scored goals for fun without continuely work as hard in every match! as long does. Le tiss never worked hard but was supremely effective in scoring goals!

Selling saido has taking us backwards and down the league
yet our club had the so called blackbox that identify's the quality of each player. cross refrancing their quality's and desided to sell the best player of the pair for a hugh profit.

Isn't fair then that V. V. D saw this too and asking himself what are his dreams and desires. And isn't it our job to point this out to the club and ask why?

It makes no sense why let Koeman go year before his contract was up! just to cash in. While forcing another person to remain at the club he no longer wishes to be at?

It seems to me we should be asking these types of questions at the board and I am wondering our we going repeat this all over again now the club has new owners who as business minded people may wish to seek a return on their investment over the next few seasons. This the loop continues.

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16 Nov 2017 16:50:11
4thelove, how can you have so little understanding of what has happened with our club in recent years with regard to koeman etc?

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18 Nov 2017 11:14:14
Sorry but I am at a loss to your meaning in your reply. If you could explain why you believe I have little understanding as to what has been going on at the club we love and support.

All I am saying our club bangs on about it's blackbox using it as they do to identify the players they wish to bring into the club to help improve our team and to monitor the players we already have.

As far as I can recall Saido never asked to move on and Shane long has never scored more then 15 goals in a season so why sale saido and not long first? Saido is clearly the younger and better player.!

As for Koeman the club needs to be consistent in their approch and actions.

Koeman said himself he expected Southampton to say we are not releasing you from your contract.

Fair play to our clubs board they did say they longer wished to sale our best players at the end of last season and they stuck to their word hugh progress in that regard. But a lot of damage was done. If they continue sticking to these new approch and slipping back to old ways.

Players need faith in their teammates, manger and club alike I like to think loyalty counts for something but the last time it happen at our was when we wentdown to league one and we asked Kevin Davis to stick with us!

The new owner's will no doubt look to get their 200 million at some point but we need to pressure the board don't to do it the same way by undermining clubs currant outlook saling our better players. A ruthless approch is needed sale players quickly that don't match expectations centre forward should be scoring at lease 15 goals a season subject to injury. Shane long isn't that good of a player full stop. We should sale him in the summer and try and buy Tim winner.

{Ed001's Note - Sadio did ask to move on, just like he did when he joined you in the first place, after going on strike at RBS to force a move through.}

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12 Nov 2017 17:40:27
Fernando Torres has apparently been offered to Saints on a loan deal, What do you guys think? Loved him at Liverpool, But since then, questionable.

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12 Nov 2017 19:09:08
All day and night long.

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13 Nov 2017 08:23:54
Cant see this one happening, wages for one would be to much and let's be honest what pace has Torres got lol, he is at the end of his carrer. We need pace up front. I just don't know why CA doesn't get a proper crack at it. The manager obviously doesn't fancy him. I would have CA up front with Gabbi behind. Watch the goals start flooding in!

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14 Nov 2017 07:25:16
CA good finisher but pace really slight contradiction there. We need a target man we never replaces pele and need someone in the mood to hold up and bring others into the ball from midfield. Buy it give Sam a chance. If u want pace bring olufelo back.

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14 Nov 2017 08:28:00
Contradiction! CA would be faster then torres LOL!

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14 Nov 2017 08:31:09
CA could be a traget man! we just need to start using him, and I don't me 5 minutes at the end of a game!

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02 Nov 2017 11:47:04
I am going to be extremely controversial here but I just need to say it whether others agree or not. Watching Saints this season is pretty desperate going and frankly depressing. I don't believe we appointed the right manager to replace CP who in my opinion should have been given another season or at least till this Christmas. When Pelligrino joined as people said we were going to produce fast paced flowing football similar to Pochettino but I fail to see where anybody got this idea from as he spent last season at Alaves setting his team up very defensively to stay in La Liga which he achieved and should be applauded for however I think CP could have done that as well. I think from the rumours that CP lost the dressing room and ultimately his job due unsettled players. On reflection the likes of Dusan Tadic could have been at the heart of this with his whinging and wining which let's face it we see him doing on the pitch every week acting like a spoiled brat and overreacting to just about every contact from an opposing player. I have been a season ticket holder for over 40 years and hardly ever miss a game even through the dark days of League 1 but do you know what if the weather is crap on Saturday I would seriously consider giving it a miss and listen to Soccer Saturday instead, I haven't felt like this since the days of Ian Branfoot so I find that very worrying from a personal point of view. I honestly don't think our squad can play high pressing attacking football anymore, not because they are not good enough players, they can't because either they have not ever been shown how or the management won't let them. I believe the fear is in the management team which is being so negative and this is being transmitted through to the team thus creating the toothless performances we have sadly had to put up with. Pellegrino has got to be brave and change things NOW, we are playing City very soon which gives us the perfect opportunity to give it a go. We will probably get beaten even so but one thing is certain if we try to defend against them they will murder us with possession and I think the likes of FF not conceding is just a pipe dream. Anyway that's the way I see it, football should be about entertainment even when you lose, I remember those days and hated losing games but at least you could reflect on the game afterwards and know that you tried everything to score. That seems to be a thing of the past over the last two seasons apart from one game, the final against Man U showed we can do it. The difference was it was not in the league so no points were involved so it seems to me we just set up to try not to concede. I hope I'm not the only one that sees it this way if I am maybe it's time to hang my season ticket up forever.

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02 Nov 2017 13:18:17
Hi Saint Duke. I've posted a reply on the banter page if you have a few minutes to read it.

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02 Nov 2017 13:43:48
I totally agree with you, I have never been so depressed watching us this year, all we try to do is keep the ball just passing from Full Backs to Center Halves to Midfield, the back again, NOT gaining any territory, and get nowhere. The players surely can't enjoy this type of football? The only players that will not complain are the ones that should NOT be in the team, the wining Tadic, & Redmond, what does W Prowse offer us, and that excuse for a Goalkeeper, I will not make my thoughts public, as I could get in to trouble!
We have to get more energy throughout the team, and start getting more players into the box. KEEP Two players upfront. Our Full back have just one player to hit if they play the ball forward, give them more options.
We are NO better with this Manager, and I think we are at times worse. The enjoyment of looking towards the next game has gone, I am the same as most of the crowd at St Marys Not expecting a lot.
The team is not giving us anything to cheers about.
Come on M. P get the team do what we used to do best ATTACK, it the only way to Win games. Bring back the feeling of use looking forward to going to the game and supporting our team.
G Smith.

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03 Nov 2017 14:56:21
Agree with a lot of this, although disagree with any suggestion MP's job should be under threat. The problem stems back to Koeman in my view, who started the trend of changing the way we play football, and I think that MP should be judged on next season once he's had more of a chance to stamp his mark on the team.

I understand your frustration, but we all know that if we had been giving it a go, losing, and were sat in/ around the relegation zone right now you would be calling for MP's head, so he's in a difficult position. Your point about City for example, yes it'd be nice to give it a go, but that's the kind of thinking that can get you beat 6, 7, 8-0 against them right now. They're that good, and I can see an argument for trying to frustrate them by sitting deep.

It's going to be a long season of mid-table mediocrity but I think as fans we need to avoid treating MP the same as we treated Puel. Puel had to go, but it was the fans (and maybe players, I don't know what was going on in the dressing room) that made that the case unfortunately by turning on him. Let's not do the same with this manager. If things don't change next season, then we should start talking about whether he's the right guy. Until then, let's be patient and accept that we need to get rid of a few players who can't cut it (cough, Tadic, cough) and bring in a few hungry attackers ready to work hard and prove themselves. After this has happened, we can judge MP on the results.

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03 Nov 2017 19:45:00
123 I understand your post completely and agree with most of it. If you look on the banter page I responded to Figo about me stating that Pellegrino should be sacked, I never said that and don't want that to happen. I simply stated that I personally didn't think he was the right appointment. You make a point about not taking it to City, but maybe just maybe we need to do that. We have some good technical players and they need to be used to bring out their skills. City will be sitting there thinking that we will go there and put everybody behind the ball and they will coach their side to expect us to do that. Let's do what we did in the Cup Final last season and show that we can take them on, if we sit back we will lose maybe only 2 or 3 but don't you think if we have a go it might make them think a bit as City are not the greatest defensively. We are too predictable and just about every side in the PL has worked out the best way to set up against us, let's change that.

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04 Nov 2017 21:19:54
Stats wise are we looking any better now than we did under CP this time last season?

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05 Nov 2017 00:20:19
Will we should have kept Puel rather than employ a new manager that is more negative than he was.

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12 Nov 2017 17:36:26
I Agree . I didn't think Puel done much wrong. 8th and a Cup Final, how can that be classed as a poor season . It now looks like it was the players on the pitch letting him down at the end and continued into this season doing the same.

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25 Oct 2017 22:13:29
Now Leicester have confirmed Puel, what are people's thoughts?

It seems an odd appointment to me in light of Leicester's style of play but it will be interesting to see whether Puel tries to change his approach or whether Leicester change tack.

{Ed002's Note - Very good manager, not the club for him.}

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26 Oct 2017 09:01:03
Hi Ed's. What's your opinion of him, in terms of Southampton getting rid of him? Do you think we were right in doing that or do you think we should have kept him on?

{Ed002's Note - I think he should have stayed. He is a good guy.}

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22 Oct 2017 00:15:27
Hi guys, I thought that the way the teams were set up looked a lot more balanced with Bertrand going forward on the left and creating chances. WBA are a typical Pulis team as Lee Dixon said on TV playing with almost a back six plus the awful weather conditions, we looked much better going forward, all the players worked really hard and MP made some daring substitutions which came off, Redmond looked more disciplined and creative and Boufane's goal was an absolute peach, it reminded me of Ryan Giggs goal vs Arsenal, great contender for goal of the season. When you are playing against a big, disciplined back four crosses into the box are a waste of time and I would like to see more variety there and corners. Great free kick from Bertrand! We are not there yet but if we can carry on from here the season looks brighter. Regards VS.

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22 Oct 2017 23:05:07
Good post, agreed. Really positive substitutions that changed the game. WBA are a tough side to break down 😇.

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21 Oct 2017 12:16:22
can we get quincy promes from spartak?

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22 Oct 2017 11:15:34
No he is on a promise!

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20 Oct 2017 17:34:54
Blimey, according to his Twitter and Insta pages, Virgil is finally ‘ready for the weekend’. It also seems according to the same social media outlets, Wesley ain’t that chuffed about his upcoming weekend.

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18 Oct 2017 09:02:40
Paco Alcacer linked from Barcelona on BBC.

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19 Oct 2017 07:56:14
Here's hoping. (bin Redmond, VVD and Tadic for some cash)

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19 Oct 2017 11:13:33
Not sure we need another striker - wingers and attacking midfielders are a bigger need for us right now.

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16 Oct 2017 14:14:24
Reading the Liverpool forum and they are still desperate for VVD it seems. Also Clyne is being slated and they inference is as soon as they can he will be sold on as he is not wanted.

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16 Oct 2017 23:08:22
I feel for luke Shaw. he's been publicly torn to shreds and looks broken. I know his 100 grand a week and perhaps questionable attitude but his talent is undeniable. hopefully he can find fitness and maybe a move that suits him.

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17 Oct 2017 10:01:30
Luke Shaw .
At Southampton he was treated the Southampton Way, treated as a young man, a young man with exceptional talent . who played his heart out for us, was rarely injured or missed a game, who's fitness was never in doubt as he bombed up and down the wing = England left back.
I followed him on twitter . a game of bowling with his buddies, Nandos with his mates, golf with his mates . all the things that a 17/ 18 year old should be doing!
He moves to Manchester . what do they do, shove him in some plush City Centre hotel to live . only 'mates' around, not real mates but footballers who regard themselves as celebrities! I think the first event he attended was a boxing match (from memory) where all the Man U players had ring side seats .

That same evening there were a few of Saints players in Ceno's sat eating, chatting, no show offs, just sensible guys having a chat and giggle .

So from young man going to Nandos with his mates, playing xbox . to part of the Marketing Giant that is Man U .

He was still a boy . sad . great player . great attitude.

{Ed001's Note - Clyne was similar, moved to Liverpool and it all went to his head. The clubs made a mess of things in both cases.}

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17 Oct 2017 16:38:49
It is such a shame .
I look ay Lemina we have just signed from Juventus, articulate, sociable, cheerful . plays his heart and socks off .
It seems for us, that character is a huge part of the selection process and then they are encouraged almost into a family way .
Luke Shaw didn't go from being injury free, very fit, England left back to this . shame .
Clyne was also superb .

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17 Oct 2017 16:38:49
It is such a shame .
I look ay Lemina we have just signed from Juventus, articulate, sociable, cheerful . plays his heart and socks off .
It seems for us, that character is a huge part of the selection process and then they are encouraged almost into a family way .
Luke Shaw didn't go from being injury free, very fit, England left back to this . shame .
Clyne was also superb .

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23 Oct 2017 18:47:28
Some of you guys have short memories, sorry . Luke Shaw was always injured when he was here with muscle strains.

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16 Oct 2017 11:32:56
On a positive note think Lemina is going to be an incredible purchase whether we can hold on to him could be another issue. Seems to of adapted and is bossing the game already. Great to Gabbi back amongst the goals. Not sure what FF is doing at the moment and that has to put the fear of god into those in front of him.

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16 Oct 2017 12:51:31
What does Charlie Austin have to do to be given a chance? 10 minutes at the end of a game is not enough. Long has had his fair share of chances. CA has to be given a run / starts in the team to show what he can do!

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16 Oct 2017 13:25:44
Hi Ben, I partly agree with you what about Austin and Gabbiadini up front and Long replacing Redmond on the wing, he is certainly more direct and aggressive and would give other teams more to think about and possibly restrict them moving forward. It makes you wonder at the wisdom of selling Jay Rodrigues!
Regards vs.

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16 Oct 2017 16:26:22
Good shout Vintagesaint, for me I just want to see Charlie on the pitch, and I do think it could work with Gabbi, long haworked out on the flanks for us before so yes I could see that working.

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16 Oct 2017 20:35:23
Guys, all well and good saying let's play Gabbi, Shane and Charlie. but that's all 3 of our strikers! Any injuries, we're in that brown stuff.

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16 Oct 2017 20:54:06
Hi staffs, I take your point but 9 points from 8 games is relegation form and if you look at our run of games over Xmas and run up we will not be picking up many points there. The only consolation is we are not the worst team by any means but let's not kid ourselves we are poor but not the worst but is that the height of our hopes and aspirations mid table mediocrity? The game is awash with money but I believe the standard of football has declined and Saints unfortunately epitomise this and it's not a complicated game and we look poor too often. Regards vs.

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17 Oct 2017 03:33:19
I like this scenario but it doesn't account for Davis and I think Davis needs to be in the team. He's a massive miss for me.

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17 Oct 2017 23:41:57
Hi VS. Good points again well made. Yes we need to get out of the current form. Personally, 352 with an improved Boufal could do it. But hey, who are we lol.

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08 Oct 2017 20:03:46
Reckon Walcott would be great addition. ATM anything is an upgrade going forward and he terrifies defences when in form.
Never understoood why people worry about our affording player wages and initial fees. It’s not like it’s our money!

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09 Oct 2017 02:00:22
it's not our money but it's our club and I'd rather the club didn't blow money on over priced and over paid prima donna's and end up in a situation like 2009 again or worse - end up like pompey.

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09 Oct 2017 13:47:34
We’ve no idea what finances are available so just have to trust the club to spend within their means. Our (tight) history of spending suggests we won’t be doing a ‘Pompey’ in a hurry.

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09 Oct 2017 18:47:14
Agree with Saintysaint, and also there's the fact that if we're going to spend that kind of money and change our wage structure, I just don't think Walcott is worth doing it for. He could offer something of course, but I don't think he's a game changer. He's not much better than he was 10 years ago, which is almost unforgivable imo.

Let walcott rot at West Ham or Everton like every other over the hill top 6 player. We'll keep finding players on the rise, rather than on the way down.

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10 Oct 2017 08:09:08
I agree that the club has limitations and these shouldn't be compromised; however I put on here a while back that I think Walcott would be a nice addition, while some argue he hasn't been that much better at Arsenal, remember when he played and got game time each week he was practically on the score sheet every week - something we have to consider seeing as our "goal scoring" looks epic in training and abysmal in matches. He has the confidence to run and pressurise defences, I think he is definitely worth a punt. He will do well wherever he goes I'm sure, so why don't we take advantage of it instead of West Ham (who are bloody awful) and Everton who are panic buying and spiralling into the Championship.

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10 Oct 2017 13:15:51
Walcott would be a good addition. f for 5 mill and 50k a week. not 15 mill and 120k+

He's not the player he was a couple of seasons ago and he's not the player that he should have developed in to. His development was completely stunted by Wenger, same with ox, probably the same with chambers. I don't think he has he confidence to do half of what you're saying as I think the confidence has been stripped out of him by being dropped or benched or not having a secure enough place in the team.

Plus, I don't think he would actually add much different to us. He's available and he used to play for us so in some people's eyes that's enough for us t9 completely tear up our wage structure and pay over the odds for someone who is now a very average player. Can't even get in to a shocking England team. He'll go to west ham for astronomical wages and make best friends with Andy Carroll on the treatment table.

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06 Dec 2017 08:45:55
If we are to bring Walcott back then let's do a Liverpool make known we are intrerested via his agent and wait until summer and get him on a free!

Otherwise it's risk I wouldn't take. Remember it will take him a while to slot back into the team effectively and we should expect a few bumps in the road before we see him firing the goals in.

Also we need to consider who we are going to drop we can't keep all players happy!

If it was me making the choices I'll start by slowly dropping Davis great guy good player but can't go on forever at almost 34 we need to think about.

Also I would sale Shane long another good guy who works hard but let's be honest this season has not been effective to play for me. so if we can get around 8 million for him then time to say thanks and good luck.

We also need to remember some of under 23's are around this age and haven't made more than 15 starts for us. So time to move a fair few of them on.

A good deal for us I think is buy some of the ENGLAND kids that won their world age group's I bet Man city wouldn't mind us taking couple as long as they have a buy back clause. That be a win win. 4thlove.

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