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19 Jul 2019 12:18:13
eds any ideas who saints are rumoured to be serious about . keep up the good work.

{Ed002's Note - The efforts are on Amazon right now I am told.}

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19 Jul 2019 18:00:02
Believe saints must sell before they can buy . plenty of deadwood to get rid off.

22 Jul 2019 11:17:25
So far this season we've spent the following:

Ings - 18m
Adams - 15m
Djenepo - 15m

And we've made the following from sales
Targett - 11m
Gallagher - 5m
Gabbiadini - 10m (money's been spent)

I would imagine that Ings money was already forecast so that wouldn't come out of the pot of transfers this season. Cutting out the deadwood is going to be hard, but he's what we have and what we could end up making.

Austin - 5-8m
Lemina - 20-25m
Stephens - 5-8m
Hoedt - 8-10m
Boufal - 8-10m
McCarthy - 5-8m
Forster - 5-8m
Clasie - 3m
Carrillo - 8-10m
Cedric - 8-10m

So by cutting out these players we could make 100m (I don't think we'll be able to sell half of these) - RH has said he only wants to spend 15m on players, anyone that comes in will be young and cheap. We're building a squad for tomorrow and not for today. I would imagine we already have the players we want in the pipeline, we're just waiting for sufficient funds to do so.

22 Jul 2019 11:54:23
Sorry Saintjay, I know this is probably personal opinion but there is no way we will get a transfer fee for Forster. It is pretty much common knowledge that saints would happily let him go for free to get him off the wage bill, but there are no takers due to high wage. Think we are stuck with him until contract expires.

I think some of the others would be very optimistic too, such as 8-10M for Hoedt.

22 Jul 2019 14:05:35
I know I was probably being a bit too optimistic earlier - we've shot ourselves in the foot with our players on their massive salaries. Most first-team players earn over 50k a week and they're simply awful and bring nothing to the club, annoyingly we can't get rid of them to lower clubs because they don't want to take the hit.

I only say this for Hoedt because I've read the rumour that his agent has met with AC Milan about the possibilities for a deal of 10m. But yeah those amounts were just pulled out of the sky and bear no relevance to anything in reality.

I don't think we'll be able to flog our GK's, maybe McCarthy but I can't see FF leaving this summer. I think we'll sell Lemina, Boufal, Austin and Clasie, don't think the others will go though.

19 Jul 2019 09:59:14
Wesley hoedt has been offered to AC Milan would be a god send if we get him off our books.

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19 Jul 2019 10:19:50
I think we'll see a lot of movement in the final week of the window.

All clubs are currently going after their 'top targets' of which i'm sure Hoedt, Austin and Lemina are not among; but with squad gaps remaining all teams will start to cast the net wider and go for players that are known to be available.

16 Jul 2019 19:43:54
Its clear that Charlie Austin would rather take his £40,000-£50,000 week off the table for the next year than move on.

He has his love of Horses and Pubs that will keep him busy, whilst Saints have to watch as this diminishing asset "Takes the Urine".

He has no respect for the average Joe (or Jill) that pays good money for there tickets whilst he laughs in our faces!

Hopefully he will be banned from stepping foot at Staplewood or St Mary's, in a years time he will be worth nothing, just as he is now!

Hasenhuttle has inherited a right bunch of freeloaders, you can tell that Charlies antics have stopped Aston Villa even looking at him having spurned West Brom.! Idiot.

Same with Lamina - Look at how wonderful i am, yes he has skills but the attitude and aptitude of a Mushroom. Such a waste of talent, but they all think they are the "Dogs Danglers" but in reality they are mercenaries with little or no morals.

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16 Jul 2019 20:21:45
Just been for a walk with wife, talked about this …. thinking about it, who were the most injured (supposedly) players over the last year or so

Van Dyke
Charlie Austin
Boufal
Classie
Limina
Gabiaddini

Common theme - coincidence - Or abuse of Saints good nature?

17 Jul 2019 20:48:31
What's your point? Bertrand, Long, Ings and others has also been injured a lot. Clasie hasn't really been injured much, just not been good enough.

18 Jul 2019 09:03:05
I don't think there's any correlation between injuries and players wanting to leave. Looking at the list of player provided they've all left for different reasons or will be leaving.

VVD - Wanted his move to Liverpool, forced his way out of the club. Did have a big injury before leaving, think that was just a coincidence.

Austin - Simply not good enough for the future plans of the club, therefore we're looking to offload. Maybe his injury problems have caused him not to get to the level he could be at.

Boufal - Fell out with MH, then loaned away, he had an injury when he first joined but has never established himself in the first team due to a lack of consistency.

Clasie - Was never good enough, he's been loaned out for the past two seasons and he's struggled to get into the first team of those loanie clubs.

Lemina - His injury has had an impact, he's was out when RH arrived, therefore feels like he's been cut out of his main position. But obviously doesn't have the drive to force his self back into the team.

Gabiaddini - I feel like he's actually left on very good terms. He never really had any injuries, I feel like the managerial appointments during his time at the club meant that he was in and out of the first team. Again like Boufal struggled with inconsistency and goal droughts.

Obviously, we don't know what goes on in the backroom. But it must be pretty disheartening to basically hear that you're not good enough and we don't want you at the club. Especially considering Austin is a decent striker with lots of experience and Lemina has played for some of the biggest clubs in Europe. I've said it before, we have a big team with lots of players at the same ability, we have 5 CB's, 5 CM's, 5 wingers and 5 strikers that should be fighting for their place in the starting 11.

I think it's a good sign though, that we're looking to offload more deadweight than before. I'm looking forward to the new season and hoping we can progress and RH can create a really good starting 11 that can beat anyone on their day.

18 Jul 2019 09:47:55
To be fair to Charlie Austin he has always been loyal to the club and hasn't looked for the injuries he's received. He has never been disrespectful of the club or fans and the fact that he is not top drawer as a player is just what it is. Considering he only cost us £4m and his wages are not exorbitant we might as well play him for another year and concentrate on getting rid of those who are basically useless, cause ripples are on massive wages.

22 Jul 2019 08:34:02
Hummmmm, not sure to many supports were happy seeing CA wearing a Liverpool shirt not so long ago!

12 Jul 2019 08:06:19
With all the new forwards and the strength of our youth signings is Shane Long another one to be sold?

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12 Jul 2019 09:02:25
I'm not so sure St Steve, I think he suits Ralph's style of play and still has good pace, think he is a good option from the bench.

12 Jul 2019 09:32:41
I don't think so. Not in this window at least. More chances of Gallagher, Austin, and Carillo all leaving before Long does.

12 Jul 2019 10:15:05
They'll let him see out his contract think he has a year or two left. His sell on value won't be high. He's no prolific but his work rate and small runs can be crucial in some games for breaking down defences.

12 Jul 2019 13:53:49
Don't think he'll go, we'll be playing 4-2-2-2 with Adams and Ings as our main 2. Long will be a sub, his ball chasing and energy is a great asset to have on the bench. But I think if either player gets injured than RH will favour Obfemi over Long.

14 Jul 2019 13:21:06
Sorry to read Charlie Austin has rejected a move to WBA when the. Clubs had agreed a fee because he wants Premiership football (or watching it from the stands) on a nice income to boot. This result will maybe delay the next signing. Doesn’t CA realise he would have been in the Championship next season anyway if Ralph hadn’t stepped in and saved them. I suppose along with FF it’s a cosy existence on those wages for just training and keeping fit (both being 3rd/ 4th choices at present) . I truly hope ambition prevails for them both very soon. Keep On Marching.

14 Jul 2019 17:46:38
Probably the fact that he would rather remain close to the south coast rather than play in the Midlands too. his parents still live locally. he also has a family, Mrs etc. I doubt it's to do with playing premier league, necessarily. if a championship club from London offered to sign him and paid the same wage he would probably go.

15 Jul 2019 10:23:31
Had to laugh CA keeping fit 👍😂.

16 Jul 2019 19:16:51
I'd much rather keep Shane Long and get rid of Charlie Austin, Carillo and Boufal.

18 Jul 2019 13:45:05
I don't think anyone is really surprised by Austin's childish outburst, he clearly doesn't feel that football orientated if he turns down a move to a half decent championship club (West Brom) where he would probably be a good addition. He is getting older so needs to realise that, unless he is a 20-30 goal a season striker - which we all know he ain't, never rekindled the QPR form - then his chances will be limited. I think the only good thing he did all last season was get the winner against Arsenal. His and Lemina's attitude stinks so let em rot training with the kids, they'll soon get tired and moan they want to move on. I think they should wait for a decent offer for Lemina and send hi merrily on his way and pay off Austin just to get rid.

09 Jul 2019 22:14:58
Hi eds. Do you know if there's any truth in the " Lemina to Man Utd " rumour?

{Ed002's Note - Not as far as I am aware.}

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10 Jul 2019 10:19:38
Thanks Ed002. Seemed a bit far fetched to me but nothing surprises me these days.

10 Jul 2019 10:19:38
Thanks Ed002. Seemed a bit far fetched to me but nothing surprises me these days.

{Ed002's Note - I am only aware of one approach and that was from Atalanta who would like a loan to buy.}

10 Jul 2019 15:13:51
I don't think that Saints would sanction that type of deal as we would want to have the cash to purchase our own signings/ replacement. We also have too many out on loan who are unlikely to be brought back into the squad that we need to sell on.

15 Jul 2019 19:42:51
I think loaning Lemina out would be different to someone like Hoedt or Clasie though. He's unquestionably talented, and it could be a good financial move.

I could easily seeing him excelling somewhere like Atalanta and suddenly we're sitting on a £30-40m player.

15 Jul 2019 22:00:48
I see your point Saints 123 but what if he has another poor season? He then becomes another player that we can't sell because we have a £15m player that we would only get offers of £5-£6m for. If he's adamant that he doesn't want to be with us I would much rather take a £15m offer now and move on.

09 Jul 2019 14:52:53
David Okereke signs for Club Brugge. Southampton unlikely to go after another forward. Adam Blackmore said 'perhaps' another #10', but a CB is the priority.

Anyone have any ideas as to why Stuart Armstrong was omitted from the Austria squad?

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09 Jul 2019 16:28:03
Any rumours of CB links?

Armstrong misses out due to illness.

09 Jul 2019 21:44:25
Food poisoning ec.

11 Jul 2019 09:09:01
I haven't seen any names linked, though rumours have spread that Hoedt may get a second chance this season. Therefore we could see a back line of Bednarek + Vestergaard, Yoshida or Hoedt, with Stephens likely to leave. Klarer may make a couple of appearances.
Although, I'd imagine we'll be linked with some players once Lemina is out.

And thanks for the Armstrong update!

08 Jul 2019 07:38:16
Hi Eds, just noticed in the Southamptonfc.com site that in the first team list there is no place for Carrillo and Hoedt. They must be moving away? Any fresh info about their transfers? I also assume Austin, Lemina, Stephens, Gallagher and either McCarthy or Forster free to leave, if the right offer comes. Any info about them?

{Ed002's Note - My notes say that the following are available:
Fraser Forster (G)
Cedric Soares (RB)
Wesley Hoedt (CB)
Steven Davis (CM)
Sofiane Boufal (LW)
Guido Carrillo (S)

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08 Jul 2019 10:58:15
Davis has gone to ranger's permanently ed.

{Ed002's Note - Right.}

08 Jul 2019 12:13:29
steven davis is a rangers player.

08 Jul 2019 13:19:21
Thanks, Eds. Sees like Lemina as well as he has been left out from trip to Austria.

08 Jul 2019 21:14:49
Apparently Lemina has told Saints that he wants to leave.

06 Jul 2019 19:23:12
I've just read on SSN that Leeds have accepted a bid for Pontus Jansson from an un-named Premiership Team. Saints were looking at him last year and again in January - Could it be us? Reckon he would be an excellent addition. What do you guys think?

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06 Jul 2019 22:44:46
Reports that he's either going to Sheffield united or Brentford. Haven't heard any rumours about us being in for him.

05 Jul 2019 17:36:47
Hi ed . any truth in the rumours that saints are in talks with hull over the signing of Jarrod Bowen .

{Ed002's Note - I don't know Mark.}

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05 Jul 2019 21:16:31
Ok cheers . just that he has been backed in to 54 to join saints with bookies.

05 Jul 2019 22:06:28
He's also been linked to Spurs, Arsenal and Burnley.

06 Jul 2019 04:29:04
I think until a load of players leave most of our efforts will be concentrated on finding a new CB instead of another winger or forward, for now.

If/ once we manage to sell boufal, Carrillo, clasie etc it'll free up some funds and make space in the squad. We still have too many players as it stands. We can't just add more.

Got a winger, got a striker, centre back is next on the list.

06 Jul 2019 13:36:09
Agreed with MilkySaint, from reports it seems that Gallagher is close to Blackburn, Austin, McCarthy and Stephens are of interest to Aston Villa, and Carrillo could return to Madrid with Getafe or Legánes.
Boufal still has a holiday to take before returning to the squad but will probably leave shortly.

It seems Clasie, Reed, Hoedt and Cédric will either be reintegrated into the squad or at least reassessed this preseason. I can't see Forster leaving anytime soon.

I expect at least 2 or 3 sales before another comes in.

07 Jul 2019 08:02:29
I doubt Hoedt and Cedric will be reintegrated as it was Hassenhutl himself who sanctioned their loan moves.

07 Jul 2019 10:21:35
I hope not Vick!

07 Jul 2019 11:39:24
I think that Cedric did OK during his time with us but he'd obviously only be back up to Valery now so best if we can move him on. As for Hoedt, I think that he was against the trade descriptions act, touted as a defender but he couldn't defend so get him out ASAP. Gallagher and Stephens were never quite good enough for the Prem in my opinion. Carillo wasn't given a chance really but he doesn't look to be the sort of player that Ralph wants and although Boufal has undoubted skills his attitude let's him down but who knows, he may have grown up a bit and do the business for Ralph. I keep hearing rumours of offers for Clasie so I don't know what's happening there. Austin should go, McCarthy has admitted that he's open to a move and I'm sorry to say that I think that Forster is content to just sit on the bench and pocket his salary. We definitely still need a central defender that can command and marshal the defence and I feel that will be all the players in for this summer.

03 Jul 2019 11:38:38
Hi Eds,

I have seen a lot of reports that Saints tried to take Andre Silva on loan from AC Milan - can't be true can it?
Some say we tried a loan with 18m Euro purchase?

{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}

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03 Jul 2019 15:06:39
thanks Eds, i would be very surprised if true! Especially with who we've signed but you never know i guess. Just wish we would sort out the defence now as that's the biggest concern!

03 Jul 2019 19:24:10
I agree. It is crucial we strengthen at the back. We made so many defensive mistakes last year. I never felt we'd win a game unless we were two goals up and into injury time! But I can't believe that we'll get to the end of the transfer window without signing at least one defender.

04 Jul 2019 09:04:32
Agreed Andrew, I don't think our problems actually come from our attack, when we're losing games 3-2 and drawing 2-2, we've been scoring a couple of goals more often than not against good sides. It's the mentality to hold the lead when we go a goal down. Which I think RH will be able to sort out. But another CB would be a good option, I'd love it if we could switch to RH's prefered 4-2-2-2, but he's said that he doesn't have enough confidence in our CB's from one on ones so I wouldn't be surprised if a CB is a top priority.

Andre Silva, does tick our boxes because he's only 23 and has the potential. But with Adams and Ings arriving I wouldn't see the need to have him, especially with Long and Obafemi as well. Plus I'm assuming playing for AC Milan he will have huge wages.

04 Jul 2019 11:50:38
I agree with you both and have heard and read what Ralph has been saying and it's clear to me that's where he is focusing on but not seeing anyone being linked to us which is strange!

In regards to Silva, I think he ticks every box as I worry about Ings being injured to much and I was told Obafemi was out till December (not sure if that's true) and would prefer him to go on loan and get some fitness and goals as he's unproven really. I would take Silva on loan with an option to buy as Long is off next year but don't think we would sign him.

It seems we have a huge list of players to get rid of and get down the salary costs. I wonder if that is stopping the recruitment at the moment.

04 Jul 2019 14:49:21
Yes, shifting players has now become a priority and may well be holding up further recruitment. But I do expect to see some movement here, with Gallagher, Austin, McCarthy and possibly Lemina likely to depart.
As for CBs, we were vaguely linked with Bristol City's Adam Webster at one point. However, a reported fee of £30 million would probably be beyond us. Whoever we get, there is no doubt we need a better defence next season!

 


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