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12 Jan 2018 10:24:46
Ed's, please can you tell me as I have been reading from multiple sources that we have only recieved 17 million up front for VVD?

The Times reports that the sum will be paid in instalments and that they are only guaranteed to get £17m now.

It means that the south coast outfit could be looking for more modestly priced players than some fans would have expected, and whether he costs £8.8m as per his reported release clause or £4m, Prijovic would certainly be an interesting addition to the Saints squad.

Is this why all we are hearing about is Loans. This is extremly worring.

{Ed002's Note - The fee is payable in instalments as all large fees are generally - few clubs have the cash flow to pay up front. Similarly, if Southampton were to look at Walcott for example, they would perhaps look to paying £10M up front and £10M next January (or whatever). I would forget any release clause for Prijovic.}

1.) 12 Jan 2018 16:43:02
OK thanks Ed002.



07 Sep 2017 09:18:33
I have a slight worry in that I don't see CA featuring as much as he would like this season unless Gabbi gets injured or his form is terrible. Does anyone or the ED's Know if Gabbi is first choice striker every time and CA will just have to play second fiddle, maybe some Sub apperances? For me CA has to play regular for Southampton to get the best from him.

{Ed002's Note - I don't know Ben.}

1.) 07 Sep 2017 09:27:01
Good to hear from you Ed002, I read some messages back around transfer deasline and there was some idiot giving you a hard time. True Southampton supporters that comment on this forum appreciate all yours and the other Ed's effort to answer our questions. Please ignore the idiots. Keep up the good work buddy.

{Ed002's Note - Appreciate that Ben.}

2.) 07 Sep 2017 16:20:03
I agree with you Ben, Charlie A (and for that matter Shane L) are at their sharpest when they play regularly. Reality is, Gabbi is pure class, but I think he would benefit immensely from having CA playing with him. Until the manager gets it into Redmonds and Tadic's head that they need to pass to a player in a better position rather than shoot, it won't matter who we have up front! I would be even more radical and put Shane L as one of the wide men, the same role as Jay Rod pre injury. He is never greedy, can pass, cross and score!
I would like to ask Ed has he ever encountered someone like Redmond who, how do we say politely, rates himself and his ability to score, far higher than anyone else! In other words how do you get them to pass to someone in a much better scoring position . so frustrating .

{Ed002's Note - I recall Mourinho saying Kalou always ran too far before passing. Robin Friday quitre correctly knew he was better but I was not living in England when he was playing. I am sure that there are others.}

3.) 07 Sep 2017 17:24:34
Hi Ed, just looked up Robin Friday . great article in the Guardian 2009 . didn't have a clue who he is . I do now :-)
ps at least Kalou passed!

4.) 08 Sep 2017 10:59:53
I'm assuming the "idiot" you're referring to Ben is me, just for pointing out that we'd been told that vvd would be 100% leaving but he didn't. If you go back to my original post that you're referring to I didn't give ed a hard time at all. I've always been very greatful of his answers, info and patience with regards to transfer knowledge of our club. I've never hounded him or called bulls**t on his info. it was a jokey comment about him getting that ONE thing wrong when he seemed to be so sure of it. I didn't expect such a touchy response. Maybe it didn't read quite how I meant It? How that makes me any less of a supporter than others on here I don't know. Some of the crap I've seen written from other fans like 87, constantly attacking the board, manager, players and constantly calling out ed is a joke of a "fan". What I wrote with regards to vvd once the window had closed was meant to be take lightheartedly, not as a personal dig.

{Ed002's Note - I am sorry, I explained things as they were and I would never write anything like "100% leaving". You can answer the questions from now on.}

5.) 08 Sep 2017 15:51:27
Ed 002 is right Milky he never ever said VVD was 100% leaving, what he did do is answer the posts to the best of his ability on the information he was aware of. He stated quite correctly that VVD 's position at the club was untenable which let's face it, it is. I know you say it was light hearted when you posted rather smugly that VVD was staying and if I was an Ed I would have reacted the same way as he did, We ask for information and the Eds give us as much information as they can and remember most of it is their opinion. I have never known an Ed like 02 who goes out of his way and at great length sometimes to explain the complexities of things and we would certainly miss his input.

6.) 09 Sep 2017 08:54:17
Milky. why?

You made your point, albeit like a 6 year old girl, in your original post. It did read badly and I commented at the time along with others.

If you want snippets of info you otherwise might not get, or you want your questions answered, stop being a di**!

For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure the phrase used was "I fully expect VVD to leave"

7.) 09 Sep 2017 11:38:10
Milky u are just a hyped up computer warrior
I will say what I feel like about the board and there way of doing things.
And any crack pot that celebrates because the board couldn't sell a sell out sulker
Needs to be checked up
Yippee we have a cb that don't what to be hear or play.
In my opinion if he does come back into the fold it will be to help his career nothing to do with are team.
I would rather drop a few places than help him
Anyway just my opinion.

8.) 09 Sep 2017 17:21:57
I totally disagree with that comment 87 if he comes back into the fold and does well we can justify the asking price. I agree he needs to go if he doesn't want to be at Southampton but the board standing firms sets a message out to others which is good for the club. Not trying to pick an argument but there are positives and negatives from vd staying.

We are loyal to Southampton so think he's a tit for the way he has behaved but let's be honest if we were in a similar situation with our own jobs to get around 3 times the salary. We'd all take the chance.

9.) 09 Sep 2017 19:49:16
The reality is a deal has to be done you can go for x and you can go in x then it stops all the rubbish that is going around. I was quite smug watching a fire Liverpool back line today then had to watch an inept performance from us against an at best average team. How many times will out me big money signings not deliver why didn't we buy traore or likewise 13m skin player burn pace and duff a cross at least he doesn't cut inside going to be a long hard season and all our decent youth strikers are on loan.

10.) 11 Sep 2017 10:10:26
Milky, I don't think you meant any offence, but. if you are going to write something on the lines of "don't cry about it" expect a backlash.



04 Aug 2017 10:41:49
I would be interested in knowing what any of the Edd's have to say on the current VVD situation?

I'm firmly in the camp of he will not be sold untill next season at the very least. And i'm happy for now the media is portraying Southampton with this strict stance of we WILL not sell this him in this window.

Do you guys have anymore information other then what is being reported? Or would any of you be happy to just simply give us your thoughts on the matter? thanks in advance.

{Ed002's Note - I have explained before that his position is untenable and Southampton are aware of interest in him. Nothing has changed.}

1.) 04 Aug 2017 10:51:04
Ed's already said a month or so back. "VVD and Bertrand will both leave this summer".

2.) 04 Aug 2017 14:34:06
But he is not for sale, when the window is closed and he is still with us he will play again.

3.) 04 Aug 2017 17:11:17
He won't be here Ben as Ed.002 said his position within the club is untenable, we may not like it but that's the way it is. It doesn't make sense to flog a dead horse regardless of how it makes you look. Sell him for top money, we won't remember all this once he's gone. Might take a few months but he will just be a thing of the past, all of this stupid saga could have a very bad influence on the squad and our season.



20 Sep 2016 13:27:42
Is it just me or is anyone else wondering what is happening and taking so long for Fonte to sign a new contract? It was said an agreement was mad and it would then be formalized and signed after the transfer window closed?

Eds do you have any idea if and when the contract might be signed? thanks guys.

{Ed001's Note - it is not even a month mate, I wouldn't get too worried yet, finalising small details can take forever sometimes. If talks break down something will come out, and that is when it is time to worry. When it is quiet that means they are fine.}

1.) 20 Sep 2016 15:01:07
OK Ed001 I just you :)

2.) 20 Sep 2016 15:51:20
I meant I trust you :)

3.) 28 Sep 2016 11:30:34
Fonte has apparently come out and said that there isn't one on the table and they haven't discussed one in a while and he's just concentrating on playing. I wouldn't be surprised if he moves on in January.

{Ed001's Note - then something has happened to change things. There was certainly a discussion with his reps and the club about a new one. I can only think that the player was not interested in a new deal at the moment. The player only becomes involved when things are agreed and he is given the details to look over. It is between club and agent up until then, in almost all instances.

The other possible alternative is that the person I spoke to, who was involved, was passing on details in order to push the club into sorting out a deal and now Fonte is trying to force the club's hand as well. In that it was his reps that were approaching the club for a new deal for him and they were the ones refusing to give one.

It is difficult to be sure, as the club give out little to nothing in the way of info, so you are relying on one side of the story coming from the players/agents end of things. That means the info can often be suspect, but, when it comes to new contracts, you can normally trust it. The only thing I can now be sure of is that the club and the players advisors/reps/agents/intemediaries (whichever you want to call them) are not on the same page here. Which is interesting in its own way, as it shows something is up, but it just leaves more questions, rather than answers!}



23 Aug 2016 10:57:59
So the Zaza story is back, I don't know a lot about him but he seems to be a fairly decent player, Edd's do you know how true our interest is? thanks.

{Ed001's Note - I don't know sorry. Last I heard he had been priced out of a move.}

1.) 23 Aug 2016 11:56:13
The price banded around is 25m euro. West Ham have turned their attention elsewhere. To me, it looks like the agent talking to the media trying to link us and others to the player to get more interest and money. Call me a pessimist but that's how it looks to me. Also I'd be loathed to see the club pay so much for an unproven player in this league when we would really need to rely on him.

2.) 23 Aug 2016 12:42:40
thanks Ed001.




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05 Jan 2018 11:19:54
I will probably be shot down here but I look at our squad and all I see are clones! our players are just so similar.

I worry we don't have diversity in our squad. Where are the characters in the side, the type of player that will stand up and fight?

1.) 05 Jan 2018 11:38:06
Talk of Carillo from Monaco and Carroll from Wet Sham
Now that could be a plan B.
What about Martin O Neill as next manager if he could be prised away?

2.) 05 Jan 2018 12:00:55
One guy I think it's a bit of a shame to miss out on as our manager is Chris Coleman; what he did so well at Wales is build a true team of players working and fighting for each other.

Not too sure about ONeill personally.

3.) 05 Jan 2018 12:03:44
I would say that Carillo could be an interesting addition - On paper he looks like the Target man we need (and never replaced when we sold Pelle) - But he is an unknown in the Premier League, and you could argue that in our lowly position we require proven performers. Andy Carroll would be just that, but we could never afford his wages.

4.) 05 Jan 2018 12:07:21
Saint Ben character is instilled in players by guidance and motivation and giving them self belief. All those years ago Brian Clough had an ordinary side which he turned into a European Cup winning club. He was an abrasive, self opinionated, arrogant man but he did it. Not saying we want anybody like him but we need someone who can put a rocket up the arse of some of these talented players we have would help. Somebody like Bally or Strachan would do me.

5.) 05 Jan 2018 12:56:27
I don't really agree with you Ben, I think all 3 of our current strikers have different qualities. I think the same about Tadic, Redmond and Boufal. I also feel the same about the likes of Ward-Prowse, Romeu and Lemina.
However, I think on paper certain players will play better with others going forward. For example, Tadic always plays better with a target man in the team. He seems to put in better performances with Austin.
But I think that is one of our problems, it's hard to know what players are actually invested in the club. We've seen a couple of good performances by an individual and suddenly they're praised by everyone and every team in the big 6 want their signatures.
I think it's hard for players to be invested in the club when this is the issue.

6.) 05 Jan 2018 12:57:46
Strachan is available, and a bit left-field; but so is Roy Keane if you want rockets up bottoms! ;-)

I would have loved Chris Coleman as our manager - As I've said before, as a club we're more set-up to suit an International Manager (ie. The club signs the players, not the manager) - Coleman is terrific at molding a team with the players at his disposal.

7.) 05 Jan 2018 13:07:47
Saint Chris - as much as I agree about the manager I don't think you understood what I meant about the players. Roy Keane springs to mind, he was never shown how to be aggressive and stand up for the team, it was part of his DNA.

In my humble opion we have to many players that are clones of each other. We could do with some players that will stand up and fight and be accounted for, players with a bit of bite! like in times gone by. Jimmy Case, Francis Benali, Neil Ruddock.

8.) 05 Jan 2018 14:08:09
Think SaintBen was talking from a personality perspective rather than on-field styles, in which case I can see what he means but think it's just a feature of the modern game. Modern football, and Southampton more so than many, is all about professionalism, and I think many of our players are of this mindset. Southampton is a step in a career, and I don't get the impression (this bit is actually based on talking to someone who worked at the club last year) there's too much of a personal bond within the squad.

This is a good and a bad thing. Saints lead the way in terms of performance metrics and use of technology throughout our youth and senior teams, and create a very professional environment. On the flip side, there does seem to be a lack of emotion and fight.

9.) 05 Jan 2018 15:00:12
Saint Ben the players you mention were what football was all about, I could name many more like Billy Bremner, Bryan Robson etc. but unfortunately the way football has changed regarding physical contact they would spend most of the season suspended 😄.



31 Aug 2017 14:07:03
Swansea WOW! Bony and Renato Sanches, why couldn't we be in for players like these, if swansea can do it why can't we.

1.) 31 Aug 2017 17:29:45
How on earth has Sanches gone to Swansea. Had Clement got something on him or what?!
Quality player how have we missed him.

2.) 31 Aug 2017 19:32:55
I read the rumours last night and thought naah that would never happen guess I underestimated swansea then. but lemina was a great signing for us too.

3.) 31 Aug 2017 22:35:27
Sanches has gone because of their manager . his ex club doing him a favour. Connections!



13 Jul 2017 15:28:17
Man City have offers accepted for Walker and Mendy, hopefully that means Bertrand is staying.

Would be nice if City enquired about Bertrand but we said we are not selling any stars as Les Reed himself recently stated.

1.) 13 Jul 2017 16:24:45
So you'd like city to come after one of our players and potentially unsettle him just so the club can make a statement that it has already made? Ridiculous.

2.) 14 Jul 2017 12:41:16
Excuse me trudnai! you cannot stop a club coming in / enquiring about any player can you, obviously? what I was saying was if they had come in / enquired about Bertrand and we said he or any of our southampton star's are not for sale then that would be a good thing! Jesus.

3.) 14 Jul 2017 17:04:12
I'd rather clubs stayed away from our players so we don't risk upsetting the player by not letting him move. I have no doubt the board / manager would agree!

4.) 14 Jul 2017 21:50:10
that's like wishing someone better looking with more money would try it on with your girlfriend just in the hope she knocks them back ahaha.

5.) 15 Jul 2017 14:43:21
Id her we were in the market for some goal scorers than be talking about selling.



31 Aug 2016 11:55:51
I said it on here before and to be fair got slated but wouldn't Micah Richards be worth consideration and backup to the right back situation? Plus he can play center back if the need arose. I would give him a shot!



30 Aug 2016 11:21:15
Just been reading that apparently Southampton would be open to taking Wiltshire on loan, there are obviously other interested clubs but arsenals preference is for him to stay in England. Eds what do you think of the possibility of this happening. I would imagine a team like west ham would be a more likely destination?

{Ed002's Note - Makes sense if Southampton were to send Boufal out on loan.}

1.) 30 Aug 2016 12:48:16

2.) 30 Aug 2016 13:56:52
More chance of him going to Pompey than us, honest.




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08 Nov 2018 12:53:20
Ahhh Mr Benny boy! how are you? lol I agree with some of what you have said. I can sum up Reed's failures very simply. Sold too much quality in the first team and replaced with inferior rubbish. It really is that simple. You cannot be in the top flight and sell like we have. I appreciate our business model and understand we need to sell but not to the level we have. Reed and Southampton FC have proved the point. You cannot sell first team players to the level we have and expect to be successful in the premier league. You cannot simply rely on youth.



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24 May 2018 16:20:45
Gabbi won't leave. he is happy at Southampton. He will get plenty of playing time under hughes.



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12 Jan 2018 16:43:02
OK thanks Ed002.



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11 Jan 2018 14:16:23
Ed, that is a good way to look at it, I admire your maturity. For me even at 40 now I still struggle to accept it, you would think us saints fans should be used to it by now.

I actually can't believe the liverpool fan on Talk sport this morning, he actually was angry that liverpool's best players keep getting sold! WTF, try being a celtic or Southampton supporter mate! . Anyway keep up the good work Ed's, you all do a sterling job.



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11 Jan 2018 10:14:08
Ed007 - well then I would love to see him play at St Marys. Can I ask, do you not get fed up with us keep coming for your best players? I know its football but like Liverpool taking our best players, I struggle with it. I know VVD is good business but still it hurts for us to sell our best year in year out.

{Ed007's Note - It does pee me off when we're playing in the CL where players like Forster, VVD and Wanyama would make a big difference to our team but as you said, it's what football is these days. In a way though it helps our recruitment because we can offer players a proven route to the EPL so it's a bit swings and roundabouts.}




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08 Nov 2018 13:10:11
good shout little Benny!



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12 Jan 2018 10:37:06
Guys why do you think we are only interested in loan deals? we have only recieved 23 million upfront for VVD and that goes down to 17 million after paying Celtic the sell on clause money. Worring times.

The Times reports that the sum will be paid in instalments and that they are only guaranteed to get £17m now.

It means that the south coast outfit could be looking for more modestly priced players than some fans would have expected, and whether he costs £8.8m as per his reported release clause or £4m, Prijovic would certainly be an interesting addition to the Saints squad.



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05 Jan 2018 13:07:47
Saint Chris - as much as I agree about the manager I don't think you understood what I meant about the players. Roy Keane springs to mind, he was never shown how to be aggressive and stand up for the team, it was part of his DNA.

In my humble opion we have to many players that are clones of each other. We could do with some players that will stand up and fight and be accounted for, players with a bit of bite! like in times gone by. Jimmy Case, Francis Benali, Neil Ruddock.



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02 Aug 2017 13:05:58
The player signed the contract though Chrisdownj, he didn't have to, nobody pinned him down and threatened to hurt his family lol

All joking aside When the window closes he will get his head down. History tells us this with spider wanyamma and fonte. When the window has closed and he realises he isn't going to another club hill will want to play.

Why should Southampton be held to ransome by a player when ever they feel like it? By giving the player what he wants shows all of our stars and more so our amazing young talent coming trough at the club that they can't just demand a move to another club and threaten never to play for us again.

We have to show them it is not going to happen at Southampton. Also why should Liverpool be allowed to just totally bypass Southampton and speak directly with the player? If they had followed the rules and contacted us in the first place they may well have reached an agreenment by now. For me we need to reach an agreement with VVD an if that cannot happen we then simply tell him he is staying untill next season but we will then put him up for sale for the price we deem fair.



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02 Aug 2017 08:57:01
Ed001, can I ask who you support? thanks.

{Ed001's Note - Liverpool mate. But that does not mean I agree with the way they handled things. Nor with the way VVD has conducted himself. I know he signed a new contract with a promise to be sold if teams that met certain criteria came in for him, but there are right ways to go about things. Actually no party is exactly covering themselves in glory here to be fair, but Saints have a good bargaining position with a lengthy contract and other teams are interested that meet the criteria for a sale, so I think it will end up a bit like Fonte, where he just ends up going somewhere to get out, rather than the team he wanted to join.}