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06 Nov 2018 11:33:26
News spreading around that the gaffer will get the sack if we don't get anything from the Watford too. Yeah, I got my hopes up as well, until I saw the names lined up rumoured to replace him: Big Sam and Moysey. Honestly I'd rather thry just give the reins to Martin Hunter or even Jahidi or Fleming and give them until a week before January to assess if they're good enough to last at least the end of the season. That way even if they fail to convince it would give the board enough time to identify someone and it would give him a week to assess the squad before the january window opens to do some much needed upgrading.
Also, get Jannik back in the first team ASAP.


1.) 06 Nov 2018 13:46:30
I'm not sure any manager would get a result with our squad but we have to start somewhere I suppose. We could try to nick Bournemouth's scout.

2.) 06 Nov 2018 14:01:06
Vestergaard started in Footy as an attacker. maybe we could stick him up front as the big target man we have been missing.

3.) 06 Nov 2018 15:28:56
Long time reader, first time poster; agree wholeheartedly that Hughes needs to go, I’m less optimistic about us under him than under Pellegrino and he didn’t have a bloody clue. But I can’t for the life of me see why we haven’t been linked with Ranieri? Currently unemployed, took on a Leicester side who came out of a position similar to us the year before they did the impossible, so I guess he would be willing to give it a go? Did a job with not a great Nantes team so don’t see how, in terms of player quality, we’re a massive step down albeit playing poor currently. And even if not him whoever’s in charge next game needs to start Vestergaard, give Højbjerg the armband and drop Long and Redmond for Armstrong and Gabbi/ JWP.

4.) 06 Nov 2018 17:27:22
IF Hughes does get sacked, could the Board explain the recruitment processed used when employing him.

He clearly doesn't have a cv littered with success
He clearly doesn't have a cv littered with entertaining football


5.) 06 Nov 2018 18:55:38
Agree with rich, especially as Hughes has had the back end of last season and a whole pre season. That said I can only see the logic with Hughes as a short term solution and was stunned to see him offered 3years.

Would rather stick with Hughes than Sam or moyes but let’s face it, this came from an I respected newspaper source who have prob just chucked the same old names in the hat.

Big Sam would make more sense if we were cut adrift but right now, there is enough time to give someone younger and modern to take us forward. Not to be 6th or 10th necessarily but to have an identity, a brand of football to be proud of, even if we lose more than we win. Although a younger man is my preference, rainieri does have the personality to make a difference, with maybe his successor as a no2.

When I started supporting saints 4th bottom was always the aim and although not blessed with great players, the spirit was like no other. I am sure MLT helped too!

6.) 06 Nov 2018 21:09:23
Ranieri's an interesting idea. I'd take that over Sam or Moyes for sure.

7.) 07 Nov 2018 00:11:34
Agree with that and also suggest Roberto Martino ( previously muted I believe)

8.) 07 Nov 2018 00:15:18

9.) 07 Nov 2018 07:23:05
The same Martinez who got wigan relegated and did sweet FA for Everton while capitulating when the defensive base constructed by Moysey started disintegrating? The bloke seems a nice guy but I think that's the last thing the players need right now. Some really need a kick up their backside and someone who can balance man management and command respect is the one to do that. Problem is, I don't think anyone's available to fit that category bar Ranieri and possibly Jardim.

10.) 07 Nov 2018 08:18:47
The very same Martinez who coached Belgium to the 2018 World Cup Semi- Finals ( not too shabby )! but the other two managers referred to are also very good candidates.
Keep on Marching!

11.) 08 Nov 2018 00:32:27
He also won the fa cup at Wigan and kept them punching aboveboard their weight until the relegation. Is the belgium manager going to leave a major national side for Southampton? No.

12.) 08 Nov 2018 07:25:16
Anybody considered Andre Villas Boas? does not have a bad win percentage, been out of football pursuing a career in motorsport so questions on how driven he might be (driven maybe the wrong word) but I was trying to think of young managers that we could consider and he came to mind. There is a bad article relating to his time at Zenit St Petersburg. Supposedly considering a return to football and currently learning German so thought to be headed there.

13.) 08 Nov 2018 08:25:29
Those are rather rose-tinted views of Roberto Martinez. Yes he has taken Belgium to the semi-final of a world cup, but Belgium has player for player one of the very best teams in the world so that is playing to par, not over-achieving. Also, let's not forget there were many bumps in the road and close calls. They almost lost to a very ordinary Japan side. They did not have the tournament most expected and the finish flattered them a little.

He did well at Wigan and Everton for a time as he coaches his team to play attractive attacking football. The down side is that he has demonstrated an inability to organise a defence. So his positives are that he would bring an identity to the side and the football may be more attacking but the club's league position may not vastly improve as we could concede as many or more than we score. Plus, as posted above, he's unlikely to want to do both jobs and why give up coaching one of the best footballing nations in the world?

Ranieri is an interesting name but something happened at Leicester that saw an extraordinary collapse of form after winning the league. That's perhaps psychological and to be expected but form didn't pick up until Ranieri left.

14.) 08 Nov 2018 09:29:13
Martinez has been highlighted as an option for Real Madrid, so I think he'll have set his sights a little higher than Saints.

My worry is that if we do identify a good, young, tactically astute manager who can breath life into our attack with his great motivational outlook. If he's any good we'll struggle to hold onto him. I'd love to bring in that mould of manager who is actually a Saints fan (but I struggle to think of any experienced or successful enough? )

15.) 09 Nov 2018 01:31:55
Figo- agree with most of your comments re World Cup players (Belgium) but to bring together players ( 12 with EPL experience) majority from top 4 EPL clubs plus inter-continental players all used to various club methods and reimpose your own management style/ coaching/ training methods/ planning/ instruction/ motivation/ tactics squad/ team selection/ discipline and understanding are key requirements at this level and deserve recognition
Keep on Marching.



04 Nov 2018 23:54:09
Well that was utterly embarassing. At least the Arsenal drubbing some time ago we had a few fringe players playing.




31 Jul 2018 01:42:39
Eds is it true that Burnley are looking to take Forster on loan after the injury to Pope?
I don't think there's any chance he'll dislodge Heaton as replacement and Burnley already have Lindegaard and Legdzins in their ranks to back him up so would they really need another goalie?


{Ed001's Note - they are looking over the possibilities about what to do at the moment, but they have not made any moves to sign a keeper that I am aware of. The big worry is that Heaton might suffer a recurrence of his injury.}

1.) 31 Jul 2018 16:23:27
I won't hold my breath, then. Thanks, Ed001.

{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}



04 Jul 2018 09:38:30
Reading whispers that all three relegated teams last season; Stoke, Swansea, and West Brom, are all open to the possibility of bringing Forster on loan for the season, with the Swans already lost Fabianski, and rumoured departures of both Foster and Butland, if successful, would spark some movement.
Don't shoot the messenger.


{Ed001's Note - West Brom just signed a keeper from Man Utd. Stoke also signed a keeper yesterday.}

1.) 04 Jul 2018 10:31:37
Whoops, guess my source was a bit outdated then! Thanks for the corrections ed001. Apologies for the fake news. Nothing to see here folks, carry on. Forster is still sticking around (Unless ed001 wants to prove me wrong a second time? I'm counting on that actually lol. Sure hope someone's willing to take him) .

{Ed001's Note - he is on the market and he is keen on first team football.}



31 May 2018 16:34:10
Eds do you know how's the progress of sam mcqueen's rumoured move to bristol? And will that mean Bertrand is staying or are we looking for another left back?


{Ed001's Note - I don't know sorry. Bertrand has been asked to stay by Hughes.}

1.) 31 May 2018 17:13:39
Thanks for the info ed. If bertrand does stay I hope to see the bertrand under koeman than the one under MP2. Maybe its the tactics but he has to step up and regain his old form. Top 2 best english left back at the time. If we do seel McQueen I hope there's a buyback clause inserted. He's a solid performer, although not as good as targett, who I think is very much capable of making the left back spot his own when bertrand leaves.

2.) 01 Jun 2018 14:03:39
Personally I’d move on from Bertrand this summer. I think we need to either start Targett or let him leave at this stage, and while Bertrand is quality his attitude last year was poor.

I’d take Zouma but he doesn’t seem to have developed as he should have. If we want to lay 3 cb’s though then he’d make sense as another option, and one with big potential.

3.) 02 Jun 2018 03:18:38
Would take Joe Bryan from Bristol City to replace Bertrand all day long. Unlikely but a swap + £ deal, McQueen for Bryan would be a good bit of business.

4.) 02 Jun 2018 11:14:10
Just Food for thought, When interviewed and asked the question, "who was the toughest opponent he has faced in the premier League since he has been here" Bernardo Silva replied "without a doubt, Ryan Betrand, so much so, that I got substituted in the last game of the season"




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08 Dec 2018 03:38:01
What we have to remind ourselves is that we shouldn't expect a 180 turn in performance against Cardiff or even Arsenal for that matter. In fairness Ralph has had a day or two on the training ground and it takes a period of transition on how he wants us to play. Seeing that he prefers high energy pressing style, it might take some time for the players to get up to speed seeing how unfit and lethargic they were under MP2 and Hughes. If things don't go our way straight from day one then there's no need to panic and don't let the negativity creep in just yet. I do expect a better performance than before though, and a different approach, but realistically I could see them playing a 'not so mastered' version of RBL's tactics against Cardiff. But given time I'm optimistic it'll reap rewards.


1.) 08 Dec 2018 11:02:27
Totally agree, I loved reading how straight talking he was, anyone not pulling their weight will be gone but I agree fitness and confidence aren't something that can be switched on and off. confidence may take a boost and I'd settle for a draw today, although for me a win is the only result that will do.

2.) 08 Dec 2018 12:22:35
Totally agree about allowing time, especially for the fitness as you can’t fix this in 2 or 3 days. It will take weeks and months to undo the lack of fintness in the players.

That said, I wouldn’t Ben at all surprised if he has an immediate impact, Cardiff have done well and will fight but our squad is more than capable to beat them, whilst our players will want to impress. I can see either 2-2 or 2-3 to us.



07 Dec 2018 03:00:47
Agree with what Ralph said regarding our squad size. If we fail to ship out or get in any players by february and counting the loanees out this season then this is our squad next season:
GK: McCarthy, Forster, Gunn, Lewis
RB: Cedric, Valery
CB: Vestergaard, Yoshida, Hoedt, Stephens, Bednarek
LB: Bertrand, Targett, McQueen
CM: Romeu, Lemina, Clasie, JWP, Reed, Armstrong, Hojbjerg, Davis
WG: Boufal, Elyounessi, Redmond, Sims
ST: Ings, Gabbiadini, Austin, Long, Carrillo, Gallagher, Obafemi

A total of 33 players. Whether we stay up or not next season a clear out must take place.


1.) 07 Dec 2018 09:05:19
Realistically I could see: Gabs, Austin, Long, Carrillo, Gallagher, Davis, JWP, Reed, Clasie all leaving. I could also see Lemina leaving providing he has a good season, I think he'll be great under MH.

2.) 07 Dec 2018 09:54:28
Realistically it was always 'have 2 players for every position', but in fact we have much more than that. What about injuries I hear you say? Well, if we do find ourselves short, what a perfect opportunity for a U23 player to make the step up and stake a claim. Happened recently with Yan Valery, and he hasn't let anyone down (could even be seen as an improvement over Cedric! )

3.) 07 Dec 2018 16:15:33
GK: Hopefully Forster to go for about 6m, Lewis can go on loan
CB: Sell Hoedt, get in someone who has the ability to defend - maybe a chance to send Bednarek on loan
LB: I’d keep them all or maybe send McQueen out to the Championship again
CM: Davis has been a great servant to the club but I feel maybe now is the time for him to go, Hojbjerg and Lemina do a better job than he ever could again I feel. Also probably one of Clasie and Reed needs to go. I like him but feel Clasie’s time is up, would be good to see Reed make the step up else he could be tempted elsewhere
Wide Men: I’d like to bring Boufal back into the frame, if not use finds from selling strikers and bring in someone like Hannes Wolf
ST: would like Gallagher to stay, still don’t feel he’s had a proper chance. I can’t see all of Long, Carrillo, Gabbi and Austin going in one go, hopefully Long, maybe Austin will need to go if he can’t get fit. Still feel Gabbi can come good and would like to see Carrillo played in a two up front and see if he can repay his price tag

Hopefully we can see four players and recoup about 15/ 20m in order to buy a CB and attacking player in January, although I would take just one of those if they turn out to be a good buy.

4.) 08 Dec 2018 09:44:30
Can I start something for a bit of fun. I am old school, and although in know we will never return to the old system of 2, 3, 5, remember the wingers, I am an advocate for high press, and the ability to play from wide, then let everyone else worry about what we are doing, rather than us dealing with everyone else’s formations. I love 3, 5, 2, so that we have defending and overlapping full backs.
McCarthy. Stephens, Maya, Bednarek. Cedric, Emile, Lemina, Armstrong, Targett. Ings and Gabbi. Surely we could do something with this formation.

5.) 08 Dec 2018 09:59:41
Why not go one step further!
McCarthy in goal, Vestergaard to stand in the middle of the box and deal with crosses and long shots, Romeu and Forster stood either side of him with the instruction to put it in the stands no matter what, Lemina the pivot in the middle, double up on wide men - Cedric and Redmond and Bertrand and Moi, Austin goalhanging and Ings to do the legwork!
Would probably have been more effective than anything MP2 could have thought up!



04 Dec 2018 02:05:39
Might be a bit overexcited and admittedly jumping the gun but I decided to read a bit into reviews on Leipzig's tactics while Hassenhutl was in charge. I have a feeling if or when he does join the setup, Oriol Romeu will be reborn and he will be Ralph's own Diego Demme and be our midfield lynchpin. Aside from that he loves quick players and midfielders who can press and attack so I'm hoping he can squeeze a bit more from Redmond, Lemina, and Armstrong. I doubt that any Leipzig players would follow him here though.




03 Dec 2018 10:42:16
It's Hassenhutl, Jardim, or Flores for me. Any of those three and I'd be happy. No reed replacement in yet?


1.) 03 Dec 2018 18:01:40
Any one of those 3 but Hassenhuti would be my first choice. Whoever comes in would struggle to do worse than MHs 13.6% win ratio.

2.) 03 Dec 2018 20:46:59
Hughes’ win ratio was terrible. I like the bloke so much though so am always going to be slightly biased in my views

As I write this it is assumed RH will be appointed manager within the next 24 hours. Flores (legend, and ex Watford coach) would have made me happy. He was so likeable in his stint at Vicarage Road and has that style, and something about him which would have been easy to get excited about. We probably aren’t rubbish enough or struggling enough to need to turn to Big Sam, and I think a fresh/ cool modern name such as Hazelnut (by the way everyone, that is not a typo or predictive text, it’s what I call him) or Cheeky Sanchez Flores (sic) would be the right person to turn things around and take the club forward. To bring on the youngsters and get back to the magical exciting days we had under Pochettino and Koeman. It’s a shame they’ll just be using us as a stepping stone to bigger and better things, but that’s football. I think LFC and Spurs will be drawing up the contract as we speak LOL.

3.) 03 Dec 2018 22:42:04
Apparently Hassenhutl has agreed in principle to become the next Southampton head coach.



29 Nov 2018 11:44:05
So, it's either Sousa, Rodgers, Flores, Bosz, Jardim, or even our very own super Kelv.


1.) 29 Nov 2018 19:07:13
Or Hughes? I would take any of the above.

2.) 29 Nov 2018 21:37:39
Rodgers or Jardim for me but do you honestly believe that either of them would want to come to us?

3.) 01 Dec 2018 04:34:56
Seeing that Rodger's is employed at the moment at a team competing for the title and as it stands is still in the running in the Europa League, I highly doubt it. Jardim might be persuaded knowing that at least he has a transfer window to work on should he agree to manage at least until the end of the season, just need to get Macia over the line.
Personally I'd go for Flores or Jardim.




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05 Dec 2018 15:59:36
Good stuff. Thanks, Ed002.




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05 Dec 2018 10:31:20
Not at all Rick. I didn't mean to come off somewhat harshly with the poorly chosen words in regards to how you reply but I apologize and do appreciate you taking your time for this one. Of course aside from the usual facebook armchair supporters, I do think any sensible person would realize that players are as much to blame as Hughes and should be just as in the crossfire. The demand to overturn our manager stems from the fact that he could be replaced anytime throughout the season, whereas players can only be moved on in a transfer window. Plus that managers control more of the entirety of the team in regards to tactics, mentality, man management and all that, it really puts Hughes in the firing line. I think hiring someone who's a serial promoter and twice saved a team from relegation, at least on paper looks like heading into the right direction. And I think that is what most people would point out when asked what qualities the new gaffer has over Hughes.




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04 Dec 2018 03:08:24
Plus anyone would be buzzing if they got a manager who managed to guide his team straight to second place right after promotion from the season before, and successively retaining European football the season after that.




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04 Dec 2018 00:33:10
I don't know how long you've been here Rick but his name has been mentioned here more than a couple of times. You seem kind of leaning to hughes and I've seen you defend him here from time to time (or as I see it) and I respect that, you make good points as welk, yet when someone tries to counter your argument you go into hiding, only showing up to make new statements every now and then.




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17 Nov 2018 04:28:52
Thought we'd be looking at that guy Webber from Norwich? Is there any truth in that, eds? Many thanks in advance.


{Ed001's Note - I believe, at least that is what has been suggested from the Norwich end though obviously you have to take this with a pinch of salt as it is in their interests to say this, that he is not ready to leave the Canaries just yet. He has so far just rescued them from financial difficulties and supposedly wants to at least attempt a rebuild. Like I said, that does come from the Norwich end, so it might just be them trying to put other clubs off making him offers.}




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04 Dec 2018 14:10:09
A 4-2-3-1 like:
Cedric Stephens Vestergaard Bertrand
Lemina Hojbjerg
Redmond Armstrong Elyounessi
Or even swapping one of the holding midfielder for Gabs into a 4-4-2 looks pretty good on paper.




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03 Dec 2018 03:19:39
Don't know what's up with his record in England but did pretty well with Basel, Tel Aviv and Videoton, also his first season at Fiorentina. Agree with your other suggestions there.




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03 Dec 2018 02:08:03
Redmond was very good as well with his pace, trickery and direct running. Once he learns to improve his decision making and passing in the final third, he'll be a handful. Credit where it's due to Hughes, got guts to start Obafemi against a team like United and it worked well seeing how much the lad pressed and unsettled the opposition. Lemina got stuck in well but like Hojbjerg sometimes took too long on the ball. Yoshida and Vestegaard for majority spells was solid as well. Liked the attacking intent overall. Well played MH.




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01 Dec 2018 04:34:56
Seeing that Rodger's is employed at the moment at a team competing for the title and as it stands is still in the running in the Europa League, I highly doubt it. Jardim might be persuaded knowing that at least he has a transfer window to work on should he agree to manage at least until the end of the season, just need to get Macia over the line.
Personally I'd go for Flores or Jardim.




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18 Nov 2018 06:27:43
He didn't rotate that much during Leicester's title winning season.