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31 May 2018 16:34:10
Eds do you know how's the progress of sam mcqueen's rumoured move to bristol? And will that mean Bertrand is staying or are we looking for another left back?


{Ed001's Note - I don't know sorry. Bertrand has been asked to stay by Hughes.}

1.) 31 May 2018 17:13:39
Thanks for the info ed. If bertrand does stay I hope to see the bertrand under koeman than the one under MP2. Maybe its the tactics but he has to step up and regain his old form. Top 2 best english left back at the time. If we do seel McQueen I hope there's a buyback clause inserted. He's a solid performer, although not as good as targett, who I think is very much capable of making the left back spot his own when bertrand leaves.

2.) 01 Jun 2018 14:03:39
Personally I’d move on from Bertrand this summer. I think we need to either start Targett or let him leave at this stage, and while Bertrand is quality his attitude last year was poor.

I’d take Zouma but he doesn’t seem to have developed as he should have. If we want to lay 3 cb’s though then he’d make sense as another option, and one with big potential.

3.) 02 Jun 2018 03:18:38
Would take Joe Bryan from Bristol City to replace Bertrand all day long. Unlikely but a swap + £ deal, McQueen for Bryan would be a good bit of business.

4.) 02 Jun 2018 11:14:10
Just Food for thought, When interviewed and asked the question, "who was the toughest opponent he has faced in the premier League since he has been here" Bernardo Silva replied "without a doubt, Ryan Betrand, so much so, that I got substituted in the last game of the season"



27 May 2018 05:31:28
James Maddison rumours won't go away it seems. Harrison Reed could persuade his current temporary teammate to St. Mary's rumours. Not sure this has any substance but surely worth a discussion. Thoughts?


1.) 27 May 2018 16:24:21
Great gossip tip there, Vick

Gotta day, I agree. Think this one could have some truth to it. The Harrison Reed connection being a big persuasion, well, that’s assuming Harrison returns to Saints. I am a bit worried, think he’s now 23 and might not get the chance at Southampton so could move and he might even stay at Norwich. But, ever being the optimist, “The Southampton Scholes” (Harrison Reed) will return (along with Targett - great game against Villa, well played young man! ) and Gallagher and could then bring his mate Maddison with him

Ward-Prowse, Harrison and Maddison as the Saints midfield. Sounds like a law firm or estate agents! Anyway. I’m all for it

Sign Maddison now, before Liverpool/ Spurs/ WHam do

I’d love to get Jack Butland (him over Hart, but happily settle for either) just don’t think we’d allow our budget to pay for him

I’d also take a slight risk and get Promes

Oh, one last thing, I’d prefer not to sign Shakira (sic) but wouldn’t dislike it if we did sign the Stoke playmaker

Saint Etienne.

2.) 29 May 2018 14:26:19
Personally I would sell ward prowse he don't bring enough to the team, crossing a ball should be minimum requirement in premier league, Harrison reed has been out of first team picture for 2 years that tells its own story, maddison being untested in pl is not what we need at mo imo. We have too many similar cm players atm think we need more creativity going forward,2 cf to rotate with gabby and 2 quality cb to rotate with hoedt and bedarnek I just don't think yoshida and stephens are up to it.

3.) 30 May 2018 06:51:06
Sorry mate but I don't think which division a player plays in should discredit his ability. Mahrez came from the lower leagues of France. Schneiderlin and Lallana were championship players once.
And as for creativity, James Maddison has the third highest number of key passes in the whole of Europe, behind only Dmitri Payet and Hakim Ziyech, and more than De Bruyne. Had he had better forwards than the ones at norwich, his assists would easily reach double figures. I'd definitely welcome him and believe he can make the step up.



27 Mar 2018 11:16:43
David Wagner linked to the managerial post.


1.) 29 Mar 2018 08:40:56
Poor mans klopp.

2.) 29 Mar 2018 16:58:17
Are you saying that as a good or bad thing saints0001?



23 Aug 2017 07:18:41
Saints scouts in attendance at Porto game. Wondering who could they be looking at there?


1.) 23 Aug 2017 08:31:20
Literally any one lol. and not even for this window. Probably someone lined up for 12 months time. That's how we operate.

2.) 24 Aug 2017 03:17:49
Maybe Aboubakar. There was previous interest before he joined Porto. We do a lot of scouting in Portugal though. Could have been a general mission.



10 Aug 2017 03:16:14
Eds are there any clubs interests in Gazzaniga, Gardos, Clasie, and Long?


{Ed002's Note - (a) Spurs, and it should have been done by now. (b) Not that I am aware. (c) Not that I am aware. (d) Nothing serious but if were Llorenti were to leave Swansea they may be an option.}

1.) 10 Aug 2017 08:04:43
Cheers ed, thanks for the info. Shame about gaz. Big FF could do with the competition.

{Ed002's Note - I am very surprised that it has not been completed already.}

2.) 10 Aug 2017 16:25:13
Same here Ed's I'm pretty sure that Gaz wasn't even given a number when we announced players numbers. I'm not fussed, he is a terrible GK.




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26 May 2018 06:57:46
Not exactly an inspiring appointment but we could've gotten worse out there and Hughes is definitely an upgrade on our last two. He knows the league, he knows the club, and he's got passion. QHe's in the driving seat now and I will back him fully despite the numerous times I posted that I wanted someone else to take the reigns. Sparky is a Saint once again. Let's hope the board back him and he learnt his ways at Stoke. COYS!


1.) 26 May 2018 07:25:59
Vick not sure that where Stoke ended up was all down to Mark Hughes only time will tell. All in all over his five seasons there his record was pretty good for a club always looked upon as being unfashionable. The passion and determination he instilled into underperforming players here at the end of the season ultimately saved us. He may not be everybody’s choice but that’s life. We were for us very successful for a couple of seasons but that was mainly due to some excellent signings like Mane, Pelle, Wanyama, Toby etc. If we still had players of that calibre in the side MH would get us in the top eight almost definitely. I hope we see next season as a rebuild season and at least give the likes of Sims more of a chance . Good luck Mark.

2.) 26 May 2018 09:05:40
Completely agree, not who I’d have chosen but it was always the most likely option and I can see why they’ve done it.

Now let’s go find the next generation of Liverpool stars!

3.) 26 May 2018 10:33:52
Let’s now hope that we have a manager who stays and brings stability throughout the playing and coaching staff. There will be a few leaving, Carillo one of them please, and I think a couple of signings being a pacey forward and a centre back. Reed played really well at right back for Norwich second part of last season so he might well offer cover for Soares, Gallagher Sims and Targett must be given there chance which I feel means Bertrand and one of 3 strikers will leave plus one of our wide players.



15 May 2018 02:17:53
Chances to bring in Slav are getting extremely thin. Gutted if we miss out if they get promoted.




09 May 2018 01:59:36
Fantastic result and safety all but secured. Would be nice to be "mathematically" safe if it wasn't for Moss though. Wouldn't want the jacks finally showing up and putting 10 past stoke now do we?

The question that needs to be tackled: Should Sparky be offered a long term contract? Would be harsh on him to kick him out after what he has done but I'll be honest if Fulham don't get promoted I think the club should go all out to bring in Slav. That being said I wouldn't mind if MH stays on at least for the season. He has more passion for the club in a strand of hair than both our past two managers combined! Couldn't get any worse than those two.
Thoughts? Sparky to stay? If not, who?


1.) 09 May 2018 09:54:00
Firstly, it was great to get the win last night. Agree it’s a shame that we couldn’t have taken maximum points from Everton but I think that’s down to us as much as John Moss. Last night’s match was huge in light of the final round of fixtures so well done to the team. But we’re not safe yet and the players cannot believe they are. We can’t expect Man City to turn up and play in third gear, we have to be ready for them to be at their best. The good thing is, we don’t need to worry about what Swansea do now as we can focus on doing the job right in our game and even a loss should be enough to keep us up.

On the Mark Hughes front, I’m very pleased he’s been able to turn the team’s fortunes around thus far but my concerns about him are long term, not short. He’s an experienced manager with a settled coaching team who’ve come in and brought belief and more structure to training and the squad has benefitted. But that doesn’t mean his team building has suddenly improved, his tactics, his long term man management. He’s had a bit of a run in with Boufal but he’s easy to kick into the reserves as he provides little. How would he deal with unsettled key players? We may have some over the summer.

Also, his record with us is lost 4, drawn 2, won 3. Still too many in the loss column at the moment. We have conceded 13 goals in those 9 games which is too high. I personally think its too early to call whether he deserves to keep the job based on results as 10 games is too few, but thus far the results haven’t been stellar, the performances have been better in snippets but still inadequate at times. Last night wasn’t a comfortable win. We got the lucky breaks we didn’t previously but it was pretty unnerving to watch.

Saints need a manager who is going to identify the core members of the squad for the long term and build a team around them. Recruitment is key. Stoke’s recruitment with Hughes there was awful. We have no reason to expect it will be better here. (I still think Les Reed needs to be replaced. ) We also need a manager who is going to strengthen the coaching staff and have the team play the football we want to see. A manager who is prepared to give youth players a chance to play in the first team. It was nice to see Sam McQueen play a few minutes last night but we haven’t seen him at all this season and Sims has been restricted to a handful of minutes. Will this change under Hughes next season? I don’t know. Finally, the manager needs to be able to bring the squad together and get them playing better than the sum of its parts. Its not something Hughes is renowned for.

I know he showed passion last night but let's not forget Mark Hughes is a spikey, highly competitive personality. He was ready to go to war against the city of Swansea on Sunday after the hotel fiasco. He has said in the press he doesn’t do relegation and whilst he’s talked this down a little, he believes he’s better than that. His view of himself has been tested in his time with us and so last night’s win must have come as a huge relief for him on a personal level as well as for the sake of the team. I don’t mean to imply that’s the only reason he was so happy, but it certainly played an important part in his reaction.

I personally would still prefer to see an upcoming manager with experience of football in England so the likes of Gary Rowett and Slav, Marco Silva if his head has deflated. A new long term strategy built with input from the manager and the head of football to ensure that we move forward again. Mark Hughes is the easy call and I would be amazed if he didn’t keep his job for next season, but I’m not sure it’s the right long-term call. The owner now has to show his mettle or we may spend another season drifting.

2.) 09 May 2018 11:59:38
Like your post Figo, a balanced view of Hughes and without emotion. People are saying give him the job because he has (probably) kept us up and I can see why people would say this.

That said and for the reasons you have given there is an argument to politely and gratefully part ways, as long as the replacement is not another CP or MP2.

If Stoke lose, looks like 34 points would have been enough as you predicted.

3.) 09 May 2018 13:14:39
Surly carlio has to be the biggest wast of money we have spent going to take some doing to sell in summer and get at least half the money back thoughts!

4.) 09 May 2018 13:18:22
If Huddersfield hadn't picked up all of their last 4 points, I would be more confident. Ha. Swansea look a little toothless but will have to throw it all at Stoke. All depends on whether Stoke turn up and play for pride or not. They could hold Swansea if they do. I'll be keeping a careful eye on the City game tonight as well to see whether they're in autopilot ahead of the world cup or whether the weekend was just a blip.

5.) 09 May 2018 17:56:21
Carillo signing was purely MPs doing and the board backed him. MP was a really nice man but he did not have a clue what type of football or footballer was required in the premier league. He will be loaned out to a French club and we will end up losing 15 million on him. We will get our money back or maybe a small profit on Boufal and I think Bertrand Soares and Forster will leave.

6.) 09 May 2018 18:33:02
Durham on Talksport trying to incite Stoke to roll over to get one over Sparky. The players must be up for Sunday as you get freak results last game of the season and City could do us for 6 if we think it’s completely done.
If we are losing by three or four at half time and Swansea are 2 up they could get another 2 second half.
I know it’s very unlikely but not impossible.
Let’s hope the boys give it all and don’t try and park the bus as it could be dangerous.

7.) 09 May 2018 18:54:26
You really do have to look closely at the celebrations and how much Hughes has meant to many of this squad.

I personally think he could motivate this team to do well next season. Ok he's a gamble but he's much much better than the last two . It is unlikely that Hughes had a great input to the buying of players at Stoke but I think he could be an asset over the summer.

He has a bit of Jose about him. He take a the pressure off the players and takes it himself. I think the boards recent record of purchases has been a bit dodgy so they could do with a bit of experience behind them.

I think if you asked players who want to stay and want the best for SFC I think they would go for Hughes. I am not a great fan of other names mentioned above.

They would be an even greater risk so I would go for Hughes. We desperately need a period of continuity and as an ex Saint I think Hughes is our man.

8.) 09 May 2018 19:02:45
Arsene's out of work?!

9.) 09 May 2018 19:55:50
That thought had crossed my mind also.
Wonder if Leicester are thinking of approaching Arsene?

10.) 10 May 2018 09:14:58
I don't think we can base a couple of big wins. On our decision to keep Hudges. We want someone that can come in and develop a squad, in the same fashion MP has done at spurs. And looking in what the board has done with their last signings, this will has been in their best interests.
I must say, MH decision to bring on MH for an injured JB just after bringing on Long did seem very rogue! But it paid off for us. We were very organised on Tuesday night and our guys were solid from the aerial threat of Swansea. Saying that, we've won games by the scruff of our neck, not all results have been convincing.



21 Mar 2018 16:14:11
Wondering what fellow saints fans which step they want the board to take next provided we stay up.
Would you rather have Mark Hughes continue what he started as in the scenario above there's a case that he has deserved his chance?
Or do some fans think that he is not the way forward and hope for a change of management next season? If so, then who? Names like Graham Potter, Vieira, Jokanovic, Mihajlovic seems to be bandied around these days. Peter Bosz? Out of our reach probably.


1.) 21 Mar 2018 20:50:23
I would like to see more coaches and better coaches at all levels and a review of the sustainability of ‘the Southampton way’. If we are to develop some of the best young players in the country, we need to support them with the best coaching to match that ambition. Perhaps we could look at recruiting some new players in the youth ranks as well to strengthen the under 18s and under 23s to bridge the gap between the first team and youth teams because at the moment, no-one new is really standing up from the youth ranks and demanding a chance in the senior set-up. Our senior team has young players with great potential that need better coaching to realise it too.

I won’t make any call on MH as the long term manager until the end of the season but what we desperately need now is stability. Ideally a younger, hungry manager who has really kept his knowledge at the forefront of the game and is looking to expand his knowledge and take a fresh approach. That to me is not MH but if he gets the team playing well, I may review this. We’ve been linked with some interesting choices but a new manager with no Prem experience will be a gamble so the board must be certain that he is will get the team playing the brand of football we all are desperate to return to our club i. e, attacking, high intensity, battling, exciting. We don’t need another pragmatist thanks.

2.) 21 Mar 2018 21:04:10
I personally have a mixture of thoughts.

If we play convincingly from now, see a massive change in both the structure and attitude of the team, and get enough points to stay out of relegation, then I would like to see him stay.

If things don't change much in the club, but we scrap our way unconvincingly out of relegation then I would be pleased with that, but I would want a new manager to make sure we achieve the best we can next season.

If we fight hard and show a true determination, however we still get relegated, then I would like Hughes to stay.

Finally, If he is a total flop, we play really crap football with no determination at all and we get relegated then obviously I would like to see the back of him.

3.) 22 Mar 2018 09:54:16
Partly agree with you Saint Bod and excellent points made as always Figo.
Part of me thinks that the reason the board appointed Hughes is more because of his passion before his tactical and management skills. Obviously what the players need now is some fighting spirit instilled and managed by someone who at least thinks he knows what he's doing, and Hughes ticks those boxes. However looking forward we will need more than that.
I suspect if we do stay up then the board will put Hughes position under scrutiny and evaluate other options. Our pace of football has been slow at times, we are too conservative and our forwards get isolated too much. We have speed in the squad in redmond and boufal, our left fullback has a wonderful cross in him, and our right back is very good going forward. We've seen Austin's and Gabs finishing ability as well. The board needs to identify which manager who's style also plays to the strengths to the players we have. If Hughes manages to get the most out of the players then he has a strong case. I wouldn't mind him staying IF there are no better managers available out there (which won't be that hard) .
However, my most concerning matter regarding what step the board will take in future management appointments, is if they are willing to pay compensation to get the ideal right man.



13 Mar 2018 02:45:12
Marco Silva in?





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18 Jun 2018 03:01:29
A player with high work rate is always welcomed in my book. I imagine Lozano was already in the 20+mil bracket and after this world cup it could rise even more. With us battling Leicester for Maddison who's already over 20mil as well, unfortunately can't see Les spend that much twice in one window unless he sees last season as a wake up call. I'd like to be proven wrong though. Lozano might be a bit too pricy like Promes, but both very good players.




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17 Jun 2018 11:31:47
Called it a few weeks ago. Although it was just another name bandied around back then but I will be glad if it starts bearing fruit. Much needed competition for tadic and if we do stick with 3-4-1-2 then putting him behind the two forwards will be a mouthwatering prospect.




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05 Jun 2018 15:00:46
12 mil is nothing these days, despite Saints knack of penny pinching. Worth a shot. He's got better stats than most of our attacking midfielders last season.




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31 May 2018 17:13:39
Thanks for the info ed. If bertrand does stay I hope to see the bertrand under koeman than the one under MP2. Maybe its the tactics but he has to step up and regain his old form. Top 2 best english left back at the time. If we do seel McQueen I hope there's a buyback clause inserted. He's a solid performer, although not as good as targett, who I think is very much capable of making the left back spot his own when bertrand leaves.




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30 May 2018 06:51:06
Sorry mate but I don't think which division a player plays in should discredit his ability. Mahrez came from the lower leagues of France. Schneiderlin and Lallana were championship players once.
And as for creativity, James Maddison has the third highest number of key passes in the whole of Europe, behind only Dmitri Payet and Hakim Ziyech, and more than De Bruyne. Had he had better forwards than the ones at norwich, his assists would easily reach double figures. I'd definitely welcome him and believe he can make the step up.





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17 Jun 2018 11:40:24
Forster is one of, if not the highest earner at our club (although I think Lemina and Gabs earn a bit more) and as good as he was at the back end of last season, increasing McCarthy's wages to the point of being more than Fraser's will take a hit on our wage budget. Increasing his wages by that much just because people are uncomfortable with the idea that our current number two earns more than our first choice is a bad move. However, I do think Fraser is on too much to sit on the bench. Would rather move him on and sign someone who will be on less and then increase McCarthy's wages (because let's be honest, he earned it), but rationalized within our current wage budget means so that it stays stable. Wouldn't want our top 5 paid players in the club to have 2 goalkeepers now do we? Just my opinion.




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14 Jun 2018 08:05:01
Lemina playing more forward leaves him little to no time on the ball since its closer for the opposition to get near him. I'd rather he made his dangerous runs from deep and strike panic into defense, providing a distraction to maybe not leave our striker isolated perhaps?




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10 Jun 2018 19:48:44
Why not just drag Jaidi out of retirement? Or better yet, bring back super Jos Hooivelt?




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06 Jun 2018 05:34:18
Supposedly subpar loan at brugge. Wasn't even first choice there towards the end of the season. An unspectacular player really, never did much wrong but not what we need right now. Especially with the number of midfielders we have right now. Should be moved on this summer, as the wages could be put to better use elsewhere. Reed having a more positive loan spell should be given the chance to replace Davis.




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03 Jun 2018 02:42:15
Quite a few columnists and fans are expecting MH to play 3 at the back in a form of a 3-4-1-2 for some reason so I'd go with
Bednarek (New CB) Hoedt
Cedric Lemina Romeu Bertrand
(New AM)
Gabbiadini Austin

FF will probably stay as I can't see any team interested in him. Yosh and Stephens will provide CB competition as Gardos leaves. JWP and Reed can cover both CM and RWB positions although Reed possibly leaving and with pied leaving that would save money on a new RB. I also think Redmond could have a role at RWB, he has the speed and work rate though. Bertrand and Targett to compete for the left side with McQueen's imminent departure to Bristol City, both could also play together with one of them covering the left sided CB spot ala Koeman's style a couple of seasons back. Hojbjerg to push lemina and romeu for places and can play AM as well. Tadic to compete with our new AM, Clasie and Boufal leaving, Davis will probably stay unless Rangers can suddenly pay his wages. Other than that, like FF, can't see him leaving. Long to depart, signing a backup forward and one of Gallagher and Carillo to leave.

Ins: New CB (Pref: Gibson), New AM (Pref: Maddison), new back up ST (Pref:? )

Outs: Definitely out: Gardos, McQueen, Pied, Clasie, Boufal, Long, one of Carillo or Gallagher. On the fence: Reed, Davis.

Just my opinion.