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29 Nov 2018 21:39:49
Read that Jardim is interested in Southampton job but that our player recruitment policy is deterring him. Maybe if we got the new DoF first (one who will get us back on track a bit), then he'll want to join.


1.) 01 Dec 2018 03:56:29
Just need to get some one in and fast 2nd from bottom now with a tough couple of weeks dontbreally want to separate from the pack to much.



06 Sep 2018 01:01:59
What's your realistic prediction for winter break and final season position? I think around the winter break, we will be 8 - 14 place and come the end of the season we will be finishing around 10th position (maybe even challenge for 7th and 8th place) . Feel it might be a little optimistic but I think we can do it.

Not sure if mark Hughes is the way to go and say we are in the relegation zone come winter break, should we stay with Hughes or get a new coach? Who would take over as manager?

I see us taking 3 points vs Brighton which would be nice to gain momentum for upcoming games.


1.) 06 Sep 2018 12:22:09
Hmm not entirely sure. hopefully top half both times but.
yeah agree with the Hughes point.
yep hopefully three points against BHA, but there a decent side and cannot be written off. seem to like beating man u so.

2.) 06 Sep 2018 13:25:21
I have to let my head rule my heart and say that I think we will finish the season around 13th or 14th place. Not sure about MH but we have to give him a run until Christmas and if we're in bottom 6 look for someone else but that makes it awkward for the January transfer window having someone new that doesn't know the players or what positions that need strengthening. Also depends on who is available to come in and take over. With our recent record of manager ins and outs a lot of managers wouldn't even look at us.

3.) 07 Sep 2018 12:49:42
Its still very early days but I think we'll eventually finish somewhere between 10 and 15. We'll see the trend of the top 7 or 8 being streets ahead of the second tier teams who duke it out with each other in what will be a tight finish.

I don't think Mark Hughes will go unless we are playing terribly and back in the relegation zone with no hope of turning things around. He will likely get more time than the previous two managers as the board seem to rate his experience.

By the winter break we'll see the league taking shape in its two tier structure, but spots between 9 and 18 will probably be separated by no more than about 10 points. We'll be in that mix somewhere but I only see us picking up around 15 points between now and then.

4.) 08 Sep 2018 18:32:10
Hi guys

I think we have made a reasonable start to the season nothing earth shattering but fair. I think the key to improving is to cut down on the stupid sloppy mistakes e. g. Everton away last year 3 points instead of 1. I was encouraged against Crystal Palace admittedly without Zaha but to score 2 goals and keep a clean sheet shows promise. I understand people's reservations about MH but last season there were not many managerial choices and I was encouraged by our transfer dealings, it looks like Danny Ings could be our missing link as long as he stays fit. I
also believe this club needs a season of relative stability where we are comfortable league wise hopefully providing the platform for good cup runs and no more nailbiting finishes. I
haven't seen too much of our football this season and let's hope MH doesn't tinker too much with the formation. As figo wrote there are few points covering many places in this league and the ability to cut out sloppy mistakes, lapses in concentration ( how a player cannot concentrate for 90 minutes baffles me? ) can make all the difference between a good and mediocre season. don't forget we also had a new owner at Xmas, I think the first 4 games have been an eye opener who would have credited Watford and Bournemouth being at or near the top of the table, it just shows what can be achieved with a modest budget, and good training and motivated players. We all know this league is a marathon not a sprint but I am optimistic we can have a good season playing entertaining football and looking forward to Saturdays. Regards vs coyr.

5.) 09 Sep 2018 18:32:31
I like the look of this squad.

All of a sudden there is character flowing throughout the squad. This has been missing.

Based upon this and the potential of many in the group I predict an improving situation as the season develops. 7/ 8th for me, and somewhere along the way a strong cup run.

6.) 12 Sep 2018 12:49:47
We all get very optimistic don't we after 1 victory!
I would be delighted with a top 10 finish/ if we finish with more than 50 points.
However, I can't see this happening. We now struggle to get regular victories. And I think all other teams around us are as good as us if not better, with the transfer market being what it is it has allowed other teams in the bottom half to strengthen their squad. The likes of Brighton, Bournemouth, Watford, Newcastle are all at the same level as us. Because of this the premier is so much tighter, 2 seasons ago we finished 8th but only 6 points off Watford who finished 17th.
A few seasons ago I would have said we were the best team outside the big 6, now I just can't get behind that statement.

7.) 13 Sep 2018 17:15:06
Hi SaintUS - Another great topic you’ve brought up

I think we’re good enough to be just below Everton (assuming they have the season they ‘should have’) in the top 10 - between 8th and 10th (so 9th then! )

It’s a bit of a dog eat dog division though isn’t it. One moment you could be looking like a lost cause and heading down down deeper and down, the next could be one little spark to change the status quo and pick up a few wins or points and go right up the league table and be hanging around just outside the big boys. Alongside Arsenal then!

I won’t rule out relegation for the Saints But I’d also not rule out use finishing top six or seven. No idea, and that’s part of the ‘beauty’ of the Premier League. The beautiful game and all that

Keep Hughes. I like him as a man and as a manager. I liked him loads as a player too. Think he’s starting to find his best team - although it’s often at the expense of my fave players (What a goal Steven Davis scored for Northern Ireland the other day, quaaaaality player) but yeah. Backing Hughes all the way.

Three points against Brighton would confirm my enthusiasm. Defeat may just curb it.

Good stuff, good mix of comments. Up The Saints!

8.) 14 Sep 2018 17:54:22
Wow, I am loving some of the positivity - I want some. I don’t rate Hughes but would take him happily over MP2 but not CP, Koeman or of course MP1. I’ve been of the same opinion in the 12 games or so he has managed and although too early to fully judge, I have not seen a recent signing that could develop into a great player and high sale. This is supposed to be our module, or so I thought.

Honestly speaking I am struggling to see past 14th. I think we can feel somewhat fortunate to be on 4 points, although I missed the Everton game.

9.) 14 Sep 2018 19:48:11
Haha Saint Etienne. Just need Rossi and Parfitt now. lol.

10.) 15 Sep 2018 14:14:33
It's very hard to judge, but between 11-14th is what I expect. Looking at the players we have by position, it's false to believe that Newcastle, Watford, Bournemouth etc are at our standard; the bench however is a different matter.
Hughes isn't a bad coach and he has clearly tried to improve upon his coaching weaknesses: being vocal during the game, creating stronger relationships with the players and developing other systems. I think that we can progress under him to the level we were just before Poch came in - with a core of young, hungry English players (Targett, Sims, Jones, Slattery, Obafemi (Irish, yes) and others) that can emulate that promotion team. But in the longer term we need someone more dynamic, I like Giovanni van Bronckhorst of Feyenoord, so that we can return to European heights.



20 Jan 2018 23:08:37
Watch us lose tomorrow, sack MP, bring in 3 new signings, and go on a beautiful run if winning and end up in 7th or 8th place at the end with a run in the FA cup.
Ooh how I dream.


1.) 21 Jan 2018 09:15:07
Your dreams include us losing?

2.) 21 Jan 2018 10:46:09
Yes, today yes.

3.) 21 Jan 2018 11:22:52
Marco Silva just been sacked by Watford, personally wanted him at the start of the season as what a job he did with Hull. MP not good enough in my opinion, would love to see Silva come in.

4.) 21 Jan 2018 11:28:26
I'd throw this game for a change in personnel at the top
TBH they are the inform team in the league so I think they will win convincingly.

5.) 21 Jan 2018 11:30:53
Totally agree Bailey. Now is the time to sack MP and get Silva.

6.) 21 Jan 2018 11:52:39
Agree with comments regarding Silva, good manager.

7.) 21 Jan 2018 12:00:40
Bailey just beat me to this, I was about to raise the Marco Silva conundrum. is Watford have sacked their Portuguese manager Marco Silva, on the back of an 11-game run without a league win which was (probably) caused on by Everton’s pursuit of him in November.

So, assuming Spurs put a heavy defeat on Saints today, this could be a case of “perfect timing” - I doubt he’s be any “worse” than MoPel.

I’d consider it IF we were changing manager. I’d still like to believe Ronald Koeman would be the right choice though.

8.) 21 Jan 2018 12:03:53
How about we win and if the board want a change to silva they do that and we get 3 points. A win here or there will not change the boards opinion they either want him or don’t. Silva has hardly set the world alight after a good start. Would imagine if Everton want him he will sign and go there when big sams contract end of season is up. Can’t beleive fans want the team to lose to get him out what if that happens we change and go down by 2 points all happy?

9.) 21 Jan 2018 12:17:00
I love the enthusiasm mate, top notch.

10.) 21 Jan 2018 12:37:25
Wonder who Watford would be considering it about to appoint as their replacement for Marco Silva?

This manager merry-go-round gets a bit crazy, the same names or maybe another fresh faced bolt out of the blue. 10th place and something like 5 points above the relegation zone (this is very much a dozen club relegation zone season) - could be an interesting vacancy. One of our own club’s former managers could be in with a shout. I’ve no idea who’s watford would appoint though. A tricky one to bet on!

11.) 21 Jan 2018 13:35:39
Silva did do well at Hull and early on at Watford but he is clearly an ambitious manager who, once courted by a higher tier team, expected Watford to let him go so early into his first season. Everton may have been tempting for him but for goodness sake, show some professionalism and resolve. Watford didn’t owe him such an early exit. He would do exactly the same to us. We may be lucky for longer than Watford in terms of no opportunities coming up at a richer club, but we deserve better. If we were to countenance signing him, it would have to be under the strict assurance from him that he will not consider leaving until his contract is up. But then, we’re back to square one again. Waste of time.

12.) 21 Jan 2018 16:48:41
Those of you saying you want us to lose today, just so you can be proved right about MoPel, should be ashamed. I'm shocked that Saints fans would be like this - surely you all WANT MP to turn it around, no matter how convinced you are he won't. And you claim your opinions on the issue are rational! There's nothing rational about hoping we lose.

Marco Silva's an interesting one. I agree with whoever said he's ambitious, maybe overly so, and if someone comes knocking he'll be off. If it was me interviewing him, I'd want to know how ambitious and where he sees us in this plan. Understandable that if Arsenal come knocking in 1/ 2 years time he'd want to go. If Everton would be enough for him to want out, then I'd say thanks but we'll find someone else.

13.) 21 Jan 2018 17:36:18
Watching the game is literally a count down until Tottenham score. It's painful.

14.) 22 Jan 2018 09:45:26
Targett gone on loan to the Cottagers! Does this suggest imminent incomings?

15.) 22 Jan 2018 10:47:05
It would suggest to me that Fulham signing MT, is a sign that Sessegnon could be on the move.

16.) 22 Jan 2018 15:07:35
Agree it could be a sign that Sessegnon is on the move. I don't think you should read too much into it from our point of view though. Targett is our 3rd choice left back and has likely just been loaned out for game time. We wanted to bring players in before the loan, and I don't think it will make that much more urgent since Targett has barely been used all season.



19 Jan 2018 07:38:21
Saw something on Sky sports linking us to a £30 million move for Promes from Spartak. Anyone believe we would actually pay this fee? Would definitely give us that edge.


1.) 19 Jan 2018 08:36:35
would have to be a loan with an option can't see him wanting to play championship if we don't sort this mess out. if we buy him would imagine tadic would move on.

2.) 19 Jan 2018 09:12:49
I saw this, if true, I would be delighted. 30M, in todays market is a snip IMO, but would smash our record. This guy is class and would bring some much needed positivity.

3.) 19 Jan 2018 12:30:33
Do hope it’s true. If we sign him maybe he could Examine Les Reed’s head! as he’s still the best ME in my book.

4.) 19 Jan 2018 21:11:36
If we want to stay safe we have to start paying. £30 mil for him in my opinion is a steal.




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11 Nov 2018 04:58:17
Hi all,

Asked a while ago about your predictions for our position around winter break time and although we might go on an unbeaten (all wins) streak, which I highly highly highly highly highly highly highly highly highly highly doubt, we will be more than likely 16-20 place. We are tied, but ahead, with Cardiff with goal difference.

If MH is let go before winter break/ transfer window, when is the best time? The upcoming international break? Right before the window opens?

Also, anyone think cortese (or however his name was spelled) would come back? We did some good stuff with him (although I did read we were spending a little too much for our position) .

How about RK, think he'd be interested in a round 2 with saints? Seems to have us in back of his mind especially when it comes to our appearance in last years carabao cup.


1.) 11 Nov 2018 07:32:13
Wouldn't want Cortese back, it wasn't just that we were 'spending a bit too much' it was that we were spending a stupid amount which was all being covered up by offshore loans - something that has played a part in where we are now

Koeman is apparently interested in coming back - supposedly he was at the man city game and met with the owners briefly. Seems a bit strange though as the Holland job was something he always wanted to do. How much of an upgrade would he be though? Remember winning 1 game between November and January in his last season? That was with Fonte/ VVD/ Wanyama/ Mane/ Pelle and an in form Long in the side.

2.) 11 Nov 2018 11:36:18
Would I have Cortese back. YES
Would I have Norman back. YES
Cortese was forward thinking and we needed to spend in order to establish ourselves in the EPL. Would Cortese come back, not while Kat is still there. Would he get on with Joe an, probably not lol
Koeman to come back, rather him than others being touted. Vastly different proposition now to without the core of the team he had before
Ah well, I can dream
Re game vs Watford, shame Ings wasn't replaced by Obafemi and given a good chance. Good to see Yosh back, like to see Bednarek back in, Sims and Reed to come back too.
Dream on😇.



04 Nov 2018 15:55:32
The good news is we would be relegated. The bad news? Shane long will probably still be starting and fail miserably even in League 1.




20 Sep 2018 10:09:15
Hi all,

I have been posting discussion topics and they have been receiving fairly good responses by our members here. Thanks for that.

Looking at our next 3 games against Chelsea, liverpool, and Everton, what is the realistic expectation for points gained, especially after our Brighton s*** performance (apologize for hinting at the dirty language but I feel we should have taken all 3 points. )?

I see us losing all 3 games. Liverpool and Chelsea I can see us losing by more than 2 goals and Everton might be a close-ish game but still don't see us winning. I now see us as relegation fighting as early as winter break. If so, we have to seriously think about coaching change right? Also player changes need to happen. I know some players give their all most of the time while others seem to just go out there to get their paycheck. Any thoughts on this by any of you?

Maybe I have been playing too much fifa and football manager but I think I could do a better job and get results with our squad. Our 4-4-2 system doesn't work. Need to focus on our strengths. We have a good midfield who need more guidance, wingers that can attack and support stickers, and good defence who also need guidance. I think a holding 4-3-3 might be best.

We could do something like this:
---McCarthy ---
---Bertie, hoedt, vestergaard, Cedric---
---lemina, Danish (cdm), romeo
---ely, ings, redderz---

We obviously need a better right winger and also another midfielder. Romeu and hoj can fight it out for cdm but we still need another strong attacking midfielder to partner them. Any ideas?


1.) 20 Sep 2018 15:17:04
I agree, don't see us taking anything from these games. Would be amazing if we were the first team to beat Liverpool and Chelsea this season. But realistically, we'll lose. I think Hughes shouldn't have been given a full time contract at the club. Looking at other managers the are currently out of the job:
- Vincenzo Montella
- Markus Weinzierl
- Ralph Hasenhüttl
- Juan Carlos Unzué

I agree with the 11, I don't think we need anymore wingers or midfielders. Elyounoussi has the potential to become a good winger. Don't think we currently have the correct coaches in the squad to help improve and motivate these players.

2.) 20 Sep 2018 17:01:44
Even if we were doing a bit better I don’t think many would expect us to get points from Liverpool or Chelsea given the starts they’ve made. There’s little point in reading much in to either result and any points that can be picked up should be seen as a great bonus.

You missed out the Wolves game which comes after Liverpool. That’s a game we should be looking to get something from. They’ve made a good start but their quality is patchy and we have a chance to knab a point at least if we approach the game properly.

Couldn’t give a monkeys about the Carabao cup so the Everton result is of no concern to me either. The other important game coming up is Bournemouth, after Chelsea. Shame its also on the road but it presents another opportunity to get something. Bournemouth have been flying but we don’t play them for a few weeks so plenty of time for them to go off the boil.

I’ve never had faith in MH. He was hailed a hero for keeping us up but his points tally was pretty much the same as we were achieving under MP2. In the end, it was more about Swansea’s failings then our success in deciding which of us was to stay up. He was a sticking plaster but we needed a long term appointment. Someone who would come in with a vision for the first team; a project to enhance the team, the playing style and the league position through quality coaching. That’s not MH. To offer him a new contract in the summer was folly. Its another short-termist appointment that’s more likely to see us appointing another new manager at some point in the next year than looking forward to the next three seasons or more of consistent leadership.

The team’s still all over the place. The signings made over the summer were positive and we still have a good squad of players, but there are fundamental issues that have not been addressed by MH. This was perhaps forgivable when he took over with 8 games left to keep us up. But now he’s had a full summer to prepare, make signings and get his ideas across to the squad. We should have started to see signs of change if there was going to be any but there’s nothing but the same dross as last year. Worse, after 60 minutes of the season, MH abandoned the 5-3-2 he based our entire pre-season on and we’re using a formation that doesn’t fit our squad. I can’t help but think, given the number of times MH is quoted as saying he thinks we’ve a talented squad and he doesn’t understand why we are where we are, he thought the job was going to be easy. Not so much last season, but certainly this. Why else would you change so little in the team and expect things to turn around by themselves?

I’ll continue to defend the players as, until they receive adequate coaching and tactical preparation for matches, they are being set up to fail. I don’t think any just turn up to collect their pay cheque as they’re paid whether they play or not. Rather then being incompetent or uncaring, they are low in confidence, poorly coached, poorly prepared for games and being asked to play out of position in a system that doesn’t permit them to play to their strengths. If your square pegs are struggling to fit in the round holes you’ve cut, only an person blames the pegs.

3.) 21 Sep 2018 06:29:34
Yep my bad. Forgot Everton was a league cup game that I do not care about. And also we play bourn. After Chelsea. Think if we lose to liverpool and Chelsea, we should at least get wins against wolves and bourn.

4.) 21 Sep 2018 10:20:32
Ah, if only football worked that way.



12 Sep 2018 07:14:27
Just been pondering, do you think if we would have kept MP or RK as our head coach and didn't sell our best players that we would be in a similar position as say, Tottenham? Just been looking up our old squads and highlight videos on youtube and made me think.


1.) 13 Sep 2018 01:33:48
Hi Saint
I think the club are in a no win situation, the players want to play at a higher level potentially greater chances to win trophies play European football, earn more money. Without a backer with very big pockets ultimately our realistic goal is to be among the best of the rest. When Chelsea played Newcastle played last week, the average cost of a Newcastle player was £4m, Chelsea player was £34m, our most expensive player is now £21m, Chelsea won 2-1.Sfc try to run a sustainable business which is almost a contradiction in football. Wolves Chinese parent company is worth £70 billion! Buying them for I believe £40m was a drop in the ocean, our way forward and ultimately everyone's is a good youth and scouting policy. Interestingly it's been reported that all the Premier League clubs have been exaggerating their crowd attendances and I believe football is in real danger of pricing themselves out the reach of ordinary families to attend football week in week out. I welcome everones comments. coyr.

{Ed001's Note - the report is nonsense, the attendances have always been reported the exact same way - number of tickets sold. It has never been about number of people actually attending because the attendances are given for tax purposes and the last thing they want to do is report more through the gates than actually are there as it costs them more in tax if they do!

As for Fosun's worth, they did not make their money by overspending on anything. Southampton are like every team in the Prem, even Man City have a long term plan to run as a sustainable business after their initial splurge. That is why they are spending so much on the infrastructure around the ground, as they are looking to recoup it later from them. Even PSG have the plan to be a long term sustainable business. Man Utd, Chelsea, Burnley and a number of others in the Prem are already operating as one. Southampton are not any kind of contradiction, they just look to raise their funds in a different way from some others, by selling youth players, rather than merchandising and prize money.}

2.) 13 Sep 2018 17:05:42
Hi SaintUS - Great topic starter. I like that and respect for having the balls to ask.

Good question and as an optimistic fantasist type of fan, it’s one I’d say a big fat ‘yes! ’ to

We’d be right up there with Spurs. Chelsea, United, Liverpool and City too! We’d ‘do a Leicester’ and do it again and again and again

I’m inspired now to play some FIFA on the Playstayion. Come on you Saints!



10 Mar 2018 16:48:57
We deserve to go down. All other teams in relegation battle deserve to stay up more than we do.


1.) 11 Mar 2018 09:02:24
West Brom deserve to go down as do stoke I feel then I think it’s between us and west ham.

2.) 12 Mar 2018 14:10:57
I believe in fate and patterns. There is a pattern here.
Stoke went up 08/ 09. West Brom went up 10/ 11.
It’s between us and CP who went up 12/ 13.
CP have a far worse good than us. I would say it’s CP who will go and I will be having a bet on it.
We are woeful but just don’t feel it is our time this year.
But we shall see!

3.) 12 Mar 2018 14:21:00
Or WH as they came up with us and if they are forced to play behind closed doors that is ominous.




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20 Jan 2019 19:55:24
I agree that with a bit of investment in new players, RH will stay. He seems to like the club and as he has said before he isn't ready for a big club yet. The fans also seem to love him and he appreciates it, even after matches you can see him looking at the travelling fans or at home.




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14 Dec 2018 06:49:03
Hence "little more". Of course we aren't fit enough to keep running like that for 75+ minutes. All I'm eluding to is the players seemed to have more of an umph to them for the first half or so of the game.




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09 Dec 2018 12:15:36
RH definitely needs to get our CBs more confident. Well all of our players. First part of the game we were running around making chances and what not but boy did we get exposed countless times. Our players seem to be a little more fit but now just sloppy.




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16 Nov 2018 21:37:37
Pardon my ignorance but is Macia any good? I've never heard of him before but maybe we will be in a better position with him.




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11 Mar 2018 00:29:37
Yup. I'm starting to think the only reason players play better against Tottenham and the other big clubs, is to increase their value so that when we get relegated, they'll find a new club easy.





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18 Mar 2019 06:36:55
Been wondering the same thing. Maybe CP has a more "boring" style where the counter attacks aren't always as one would expect? He did well with us until the other teams more or less figured out what out game plan was each game.


{Ed001's Note - do you not think it was just about him lacking charisma? The fans find it difficult to get behind him because of that. People just want their leaders to be charismatic, rather than good at what they do. That is why they vote for big personalities rather than someone who is actually good at being an MP or PM.}



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05 Mar 2019 22:32:52
Amazing performance by him today but we will see if he can keep this up for 2 seasons. Played well similarly with us first season or 2 then dropped off.




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24 Feb 2019 10:17:29
I'd say if we lose tomorrow, we will still have a chance. If we draw we still have a chance. Obviously a win would be awesome but that seems less likely than a draw/ loss.




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04 Dec 2018 14:25:32
Probably mid table championship side. Doesn't look good for him but maybe he'll adapt and change his tactics which are, for the most part, outdated.




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02 Dec 2018 18:56:40
I think every game is a must win with the way we have been playing.