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08 Aug 2019 18:01:47
According to sky sports saints have put in a deal sheet for Kevin danso highly rated centre back with Augsburg. He has been watched by a number of clubs. Happy 2019-2020 season guys.

Vintagesaint

1.) 08 Aug 2019 18:42:03
I'd be happy with Danso. Young and eager to learn. Got to be better back up than Stephens.


2.) 08 Aug 2019 20:47:42
Not reading anywhere that the Danso deal has been completed - Did we get him.


3.) 08 Aug 2019 22:05:43
Danso is done-so.


4.) 08 Aug 2019 22:39:44
It seems so. at last. Both Adam Blackmore and Adam Leitch are reporting via Twitter that the paperwork has been sorted, with an announcement expected tomorrow. They are both reliable sources, so it looks like we're there now. This must have been the latest deal we've ever worked on!
Let's hope Danso is the business as our defence sure does need strengthening. Last season's record of dropping points from winning positions absolutely must be addressed.


 

 

26 May 2019 14:35:07
Hi again guys,

I read that RH is looking at Boufal again himself soon and bearing in mind RH and his staff's coaching abilities, I struggle with this concept of simply writing off expensive players like Carillo, Hoedt, Forster or players falling out of favour with managers, when Hoedt came from Lazio he had been a regular, so how do players become crap in another team? We all have our wish list of players we want to see but we have so many on loan who will be coming back that it surely has to make sense for RH to make a decision one way or another? Coyr.

Vintagesaint

1.) 26 May 2019 16:11:19
The difference with hoedt is that RH has seen hoedt and didn't want him. Whether down to attitude or ability, he dropped instantly and let him go out on loan so hoedt won't be coming back in to the team at all.
Carrillo just isn't a RH Type of striker.
Again with forster, RH has seen him train for 6 months. He knows if he wants him or not. Gunn is our number 1 so forster either stays as a number 2 keeper with McCarthy sold, or vice versa.
Boufal is in with a shot, but he will need to have changed his whole attitude and work rate to stay on and get a game.


2.) 26 May 2019 18:38:23
Thanks milky

Regards vs.


3.) 28 May 2019 11:08:10
After watching how Ralph has improved JWP and Redmond I'd like to see if he can get Boufal playing to his full potential. I agree with you MilkySaint that a lot of Boufals problem is his attitude but I believe that Ralph can get him working for the team. There's no doubting his ability. He just needs to knuckle down and show that he can be a team player. I really don't want to see Hoedt back. He was an absolute liability and Carillo just didn't seem interested. I'm not sure that either Forster or McCarthy will be happy sitting on the bench so I think they could both go if we could get a decent offer for them although I'm not sure who we could bring in as backup to Gunn.


4.) 29 May 2019 11:21:58
Boufal back in elmo out on loan.


5.) 01 Jun 2019 22:38:15
@teejaysaint Allegedly we're close to signing Fiorentina's Dragowski; who made a record-breaking 17 saves in a match against Atalanta (Serie A) .


6.) 02 Jun 2019 16:01:50
Be good to have Gunn and Dragowski pushing each other for the number 1 jersey. Hopefully we could then get a decent amount for Forster and McCarthy. Still need a good central defender, a striker and a speedy winger. Also cover at right back and ship out the deadwood.


 

 

24 Jan 2019 17:11:47
Reading that Inter are offering £17m for Cedric which I think all would agree is a very decent deal. I also read RH is not looking to bring any players in during this window and he is confident of avoiding relegation.
There is no doubt that RH has grabbed everyone's attention with his management style, it looks like we have an exceptional talent who is delivering results in a result business. What is encouraging for me is that the majority of the players have bought into his philosophy and we have all seen a dramatic improvement in jwp, Redmond, and others. Those that didn't or were unable to have been moved on or will be let go in the future. I genuinely believe we could be in for an exciting few months as Saints fans, where we can actually look forward to the next match, and St Mary's regains it's fortress status.
COYR.

Vintagesaint

1.) 24 Jan 2019 21:59:10
I think that if £17m is correct I would bite their hands off. We have several players who can play in that position and that would give RH some money to bring in someone that he wants. Also free up more money as Cedric was reportedly one of the top earners.


2.) 25 Jan 2019 11:50:56
This is not correct, the BBC are reporting a loan with the option to buy for around 9.5 million. A bit disappointing if you ask me.


3.) 25 Jan 2019 11:51:29
Reports today are a little pessimistic on the financial front with Inter now believed to simply be paying less than 1m euros for a loan for the remainder of the season with an option to buy at a price of about 11m euros. All in, that would be about £10m. In today's market, that seems low for a member of the Portuguese squad that are current Euro champions. He's been a solid and regular player for us since then as well. I guess the price will be influenced by Cedric's wish to leave, RH's happiness to offload him and the January window being an awkward one to do business.


4.) 25 Jan 2019 12:30:23
Does anyone think 500k for a loan deal is a bit low? Maybe saints want boufal back from his loan?


5.) 25 Jan 2019 14:14:28
I've read that his release clause is only 11m, but if they loan him then he'll cost 1m, then they'll have the option to buy for 20m after, so they're shooting themselves in the foot.


 

 

18 Sep 2018 00:27:13
Hi guys

Well that was nailbiting! First half positives Lemina, Hoojberg, Redmond actually producing some good runs, Danny Ings a real handful. Brighton woeful.
Second half- Everyone retreating into their shell, going 2 up never looked enough. When Brighton got their free kick I knew they would score and then you know Saints they were always going to concede. I worry about the entire back 4 Betrand and Cedric look lightweight and Hoedt and Westergaard look immobile and certainly not physically intimidating.

You can blame jwp for the penalty but he should not have been marking Duffy, it was a totally unequal physical mismatch. So we have a lack of leaders or people willing to take responsibility, these guys are highly paid seasoned pros but for me what is worse we cannot string 3 passes together and resort to hopeful long balls forward to 2 small forwards with no hope of winning them.

Again too many balls back or sideways and a lack of movement off the ball, throw ins are a waste of time and so many passes poorly weighted or poorly placed and we always look overrun in midfield. Why oh why do we keep inviting teams onto us we cannot defend, I was hopeful this season but now not all any physical teams or better passing teams which is just about everyone and we will get slaughtered. Saturday at Anfield we will be lucky to keep it to single figures.

Vintagesaint

1.) 18 Sep 2018 07:16:35
We shouldn't be dropping points from a 2-0 lead at home. That should be the end of it. I don't MH made the right calls with his subs last night. Unfortunately, Brighton's first goal came straight after our second goal meaning that he probably didn't have enough time to assess the game. However, he then brings on JWP and Gabbaidini. JWP is one of the worst physical midfielders in the league. I don't know how those substitutes were meant to serve a purpose to our lead, he then went on to give away a penalty. According to the SS commentators we've had dropped 11 points from leads during MH time with us. It's now 13. He's only managed 13 games.


2.) 18 Sep 2018 10:26:59
Sorry but that was pathetic. 2-0 ahead and only need to see the game out so we bring on 2 of the smallest and least defensive minded players. After that I think that we are going to struggle to finish this season anywhere other than bottom 3. How Hughes can think we'll see a game out with players that can't tackle is beyond me.


3.) 18 Sep 2018 10:48:45
To me the biggest concern from start to finish was that we didn't have any kind defensive balance at all! Players just ran like headless chickens around. We made it so easy for BHA to attack even they were very poor.


4.) 18 Sep 2018 11:24:58
The go to argument every time we get a bad result should not be to blame the players for not taking responsibility, not caring enough or not showing enough passion whilst adding they are highly paid. So are all Premier League players. I remain confident in the abilities of the players. Instead, when there is collective shortcoming, coaching must be an issue. I’m not talking simply about the formation here. Yes, I think a 4-4-2 in the modern game and with the players that we have is outmoded, impractical and ineffective, but I see no identity, style, plan, individual or team improvement. No tactics specific to our players strengths, nor to beat the opposition. Just the same players running around each week and playing out the same directionless 90 minutes over and over.

Last night’s result wasn’t bad luck, nor a lack of responsibility by the players. Brighton’s pen was a result of the defensive tactics used for corners. We mark zonally hence the mismatch between JWP and Duffy. If the marking was wrong, it was because the preparation and tactics were wrong rather than anyone hiding or not doing their job. Brighton specifically switched their tactics and formation to a 4-3-3 to overrun our midfield and, ignoring the limpness of the first half, for the time it was used properly in the second half, it was very effective. MH made no changes to counteract Brighton’s supremacy, a huge momentum swing in their favour, despite only an average first half from us and seeing us come under increasing pressure in the second.

But crucially, there doesn’t seem to be any plan when we attack. Its totally reliant on the individuals on the pitch working it out for themselves. I recently watched the Man City doc on Amazon and the little glimpses into Pep’s coaching were fascinating. Everyone delights in the attacking freedom of Barcelona, Bayern and Man City under Pep, but its not the freedom he gives the players that allows this; its precisely the opposite. He drills his players with and without the ball. In certain situations, the players need to be in specific positions and they repeat the action over and over so everyone knows where on the pitch they should be and the player on the ball learns instinctively where his options are. Pep shows his players where the defenders will be, whether they will press or stand off and what they should look to do in any given situation. Obviously a match doesn’t play out exactly as one predicts, but most actions will remain effective. If things aren’t working as expected, the coaching still pays off as the players have plans B and C conditioned into them from prep for other games which will still feel natural and play fluently. Incredible.

So when I see us attack and the players looking uncertain, hesitant, it just makes me think the coaching falls short. When I see us defend and look so flustered, its because the coaching is lacking. The players aren’t sure what to do and if something isn’t working, they’re not told how to fix it. MH doesn’t make changes from the touchline quickly. Even when subs came on, they didn’t improve us and invited Brighton on. Pep’s clearly a bit of a control freak, but so are most of the best managers in the world. They understand at this level, every detail, every action is crucial and can make or break the game. That’s why they want more control, not less. You can’t just hand the game to the players and say its over to you. That’s not to absolve the players for their shortcomings but I think these are exaggerated by a lack of good preparation and coaching. Are our players better than those at Bournemouth? In the main, yes. Are Bournemouth a better team? Yes. Why? Coaching. Simples.


5.) 18 Sep 2018 13:32:49
Yep agree with you figo. I wondered why not a single defensive substitute came on after 2-0. we had Gabbi, Davis and JWP who gave the pen away. why did we not see Yoshida or targett? . seems obvious that brighton will try and win set pieces after their first goal. coaching does seem a bit crazy.


6.) 18 Sep 2018 18:32:30
Hi figo

I agree with you regarding the coaching but I believe it goes beyond that. These are top players who have played a lot of football and too many players went missing last night, there are not enough leaders on the pitch. We all remember John Terry, Steve Bruce barking orders at everyone, we don't have that the second half too many players went missing and in the end Brighton wanted it much, much more than us, Glenn Murray was starved of any decent service but he kept going the whole 90 minutes and was never going to miss that penalty. We used to talk about a team having a spine going from keeper to forward but we don't have that! We have spent £50m this summer and we seem no better off, you mention Bournemouth and I am a big admirer of Eddie Howe, this is a team that punches above it's weight totally consistent with limited resources but when they buy a player they will spend big if necessary and they rarely make a mistake, they play entertaining football,
score goals and are always competitive and look like the new Burnley. I agree with the coaching as we could barely string 3 passes together and the idea of us playing out from the back on the ground in neat little triangles is light years away. I think that we can get hung up on formations, our problem which has been deep seated for some time before MH is we play like Manchester United happy to invite teams onto us 'defending' deep and then break the only problem is we can't defend and when we break it's normally too slow and ponderous. We lack players who will tackle consistently and hard over 90 minutes and then use the ball intelligently. Brighton were woeful in the first half and we should have created and scored more, they were there for the taking. In the past I have questioned the teams fitness as we seem unable to see out the whole 90 minutes and nothing seems to have changed, I also watched the programme on Man City and you are right Figo they play beautiful simple football and it is all about drill and repeated practice Chelsea, Liverpool are playing the same way and Wolves are a joy to watch. I feel MH needs to really get hold of this squad which we know has quality players, getting them believing in themselves and their team mates and taking personal responsibility for their positions. I hope we see a significant improvement on Saturday at Anfield as otherwise I believe we could be in for a hiding.


7.) 18 Sep 2018 19:53:39
Ha Ha - we want to defend and counter but can't do either. Too true!

If the players at your disposal aren't suited to play a certain way, you play to their strengths.

We do need some sound leadership on the pitch, I can't disagree, but I feel that the players will be less flappable if they had a clear plan to follow. I just don't see one.

I'm now going to watch Liverpool take on PSG. I wonder how they'll cope against us after a dry run warm up against those guys.


8.) 18 Sep 2018 21:04:14
I agree with you but I go back to my point these are seasoned professionals and we cannot string half a dozen passestogether, it's amateurish in the extreme.


9.) 19 Sep 2018 09:21:30
The downfall and lack of leadership seems to have been lost when we sold Fonte. You'd expect someone to stand up and become a leader. Davis is captain, but he rarely plays anymore. Bertrand wears the armband, but I'd question his attitude towards the club. A lot of our squad still remain from our best season: Bertrand, Cedric, Romeu, Long, Yoshida, Davis, JWP.


10.) 19 Sep 2018 16:39:49
hojbjerg for captain.


 

 

21 Jan 2018 18:12:17
Hi guys
A much better performance, yes we rode our luck but better ball retention, Gabbiadini total waste of space, if the ball is not laid on a plate he throws his toys out, his body language is crap, send him back to Italy, why is Stevens going for that header rather than him, even Tadic had a great game, Boufal needs to toughen up, but we were well organised, but second half lapse back into inviting teams onto us, I still don't think we are as fit as other teams but we need to play like this every game! We can get out of this. coyr.

Vintagesaint

1.) 21 Jan 2018 19:00:11
It was a better performance, but I guess it is true about fine margins with a couple of close chances for both teams.


 

 

 

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25 Apr 2019 16:35:52
Hi ed,

As a football fan, we have all seen the demise of Man Utd but know very little of the goings on behind it. Are there any plans for any of the eds to pen an article about this?

Vintagesaint

{Ed001's Note - there is now, I have added it to my to do list for you VS.}


1.) 26 Apr 2019 01:38:14
Hi ed,

I'm sure I speak for everyone here and thank you and all the eds for your work which is much appreciated and really makes this website so excellent. regards vs.


 

 

24 Apr 2019 01:16:47
Hi guys

Well against Watford a game truly of 2 halfs, obviously SL's great opportunistic goal and also saints unlucky to hit the woodwork twice! Watford woke up second half and just scraped a draw. Now the chance to achieve safety on Saturday against Bmth. I guess before this game we would all have taken a point and now we are finally scoring goals. I am now fearful for Brighton as Hughtons unimaginative tactics of playing for a 0-0 draw was proven against Spurs to be no tactic at all and their last 3 games look awful, and it's possible they might not get another point as they can't buy a goal and to be honest Warnock is a prat but Cardiff have contested all the way through this league and might just pull it off. Once safety has been confirmed we can look forward to a summer of reorganisation, sorting out the squad issues and planning for next season. So roll on Saturday and let's beat Bmth!? Coyr.

Vintagesaint

1.) 24 Apr 2019 22:42:43
VS, agree with what you say about us Brighton and Cardiff. BHA are in free fall, was surprised that they got a point at Wolves and don't expect them to get another. Love him or hate him, Warnock is a character, and if he kept Cardiff in the EPL this season it would be his greatest achievement. Always remember when we were in the Championship, he was manager of Leeds, and we won 1-0. They battered us and Kelvin was man of the match. Watched it on TV and at the end they just cut the sound in time as Warnock "exclaimed" to Nigel "How the fuc. " I assume the ending was . k did you win that. Laughed out loud properly.
We seem safe but need to beat Bournemouth, and I think it'll be tight.
Interesting stat from Sky is that Saint's have lost the most points from a winning position this season, 25. Another thing we need to fix.


2.) 25 Apr 2019 12:35:31
And if we had held on to the 25 points we would now be just 2 points behind Man Utd and fighting for another season in Europe.


3.) 25 Apr 2019 13:44:51
Yes

I also saw that as you say look where we would be if we controlled the games better! . I am sure this is something that RH will be addressing over the summer. Let's put Bmth away on Saturday and finish the season looking forward rather than back. coyr.


 

 

14 Mar 2019 16:17:19
Hi ed,
I just wanted to congratulate all 4 English teams getting through to the Champions League quarter finals, great to see the krauts and the frogs with no representation! It just shows the strength of English football, let's hope we can avoid each other in the ties probably Juventus or Barcelona favourites, it would be great with an all English final!
Regards vs.

Vintagesaint

1.) 14 Mar 2019 18:07:40
Also nice (awful) to see two saints prodigies scoring Liverpool’s goals at the Allianz arena! Hopefully we have some clauses relating to that 🤣.


 

 

22 Jan 2019 02:48:36
Hi guys

Still buzzing after Saturday's great performance, who would have thought that RH in just over a month would have carried out such a transformation! The difference in players who were underperforming and failing, practically written off has been nothing short of remarkable. ps I also include OGS of UTD in this statement! For me it demonstrates that there is a lot of c--p talked about football, it really is a simple game and yet this sport/ industry is full of rank amateurs and charlatans, seasoned professionals ( we all know who they are) yet who failed to play entertaining football, awful recruitment policies, expensive players sidelined drawing huge wages on ridiculous long term contracts. I was watching Everton fan podcasts over the weekend and I totally empathise with them, Everton were dire on Saturday, not for the first time this season! and we were very recently there in the same situation. An article in the sun today hilights how poorly run Everton have been in the last few years paying well over the odds for very average players, their wage bill for only half the squad is £750k per week. I remember we released Martina on a free and he went to Everton and got in the first team! Alexi Sanchez at Utd on £350k per week and his 4 goals have cost £6m each, Ozil at Arsenal on the same £350k. Let's face it we have blown £20m each roughly on Boufal, Carillo, Gabbi, £15m on Hoedt with no guarantee of any return, guys that is £75m! . I don't care how rich you are who wants to or can afford to squander huge sums like that! . I think sometimes we as fans have very short memories and put the blame back on owners for failing to put their money where their mouth is. It makes total economic sense for any club but especially one like Saints to return to concentrating on creating a youth team production line to provide a seamless and ultimately better value and proven method of moulding and making players who fit the "Southampton way" and would hopefully be in the main be of UK origin which would benefit home national teams. COYR Comments and responses welcomed.

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04 Jan 2019 09:51:30
Hi ed,

I like most other soccer fans watched the city vs Liverpool game and thought what a great advert it was for the premier league and I was prompted to write after reading the Liverpool website. I genuinely could not believe what I was reading literally blaming everyone from alisson to Salah and writing the team off. This was a game decided on fine margins Manes effort hit the post and stones somehow managed to keep the ball from crossing the line and also stop Salah from bundling it in and then Sane hits the post and it goes in. I thought Liverpool fans were better than this, you are still 4 points clear, but I also remember how much stick Milner used to get from the same fans and he is the epitome of a great soccer professional. So move on and support your team, some of us fans can only dream of your past and no doubt future success. Regards vintage saint lifelong saints fan!

Vintagesaint

{Ed033's Note - I suppose all you can say is, Klopp Out :)


1.) 04 Jan 2019 11:19:56
If only all supporters of other teams were as rational and objective as us eh VS?


2.) 04 Jan 2019 12:27:23
Absolutely!


 

 

 

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03 Jul 2019 16:26:51
Hi guys

I have been watching events at Sfc with great excitement and a real sense of anticipation for the coming season with Che Adams and Djenepo and I respect eds comments 're Andre Silva but with Austin going and if there is genuine interest in Carillo then maybe this rumour has validity. I have been really impressed with what is happening at Sfc with a great manager and support team and backing by the owner I can genuinely say I am really looking forward to this season which is the first. I hope season ticket sales are going well, let's pack St Mary's and turn it back in the fortress that it once was. coys!

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26 May 2019 18:38:23
Thanks milky

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14 Apr 2019 09:16:16
Hi giggsy,

Great performance from the whole team, I agree we are practically safe, let's just play out the last few games with the same spirit! I think the summer will be interesting, I am not predicting many players coming in as there are so many loan issues to be resolved. I raise a possible contentious issue, I am a great admirer of Danny Ings but I fear is he genuinely fit enough long term to commit £20m to buy him? We haven't had him fit for the whole season and I genuinely like him but we cannot afford to carry another potential injury worry. Anyone else with the same concerns? As always coyr. Regards vs.

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26 Jan 2019 03:27:45
It seems that there have a number of players quite happy to take their exorbitant salaries and not interested in playing. I think a squad of 18-20 should be big enough to cope. let's move the dead wood out to some other teams wage bill and sit out the season there.

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25 Jan 2019 20:27:58
Hi figo

It confirms what I've read Aston villa as 1 possible destination. RH is definitely not messing about, as you say trimming the fat . I can imagine our weekly wage bill is dropping nicely. let's face it a squad of 25 players solely for the Premier League is bloated to say the least. I think we will see a move towards fewer younger fitter more versatile players who are more multi purpose and can cover a variety of positions, an exciting prospect. coyr viva rh.

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30 Apr 2019 03:01:21
Hi guys

We have obviously unearthed a gem in RH and
he is naturally attracting interest from everywhere. He obviously loves the club and the youth policy and the great facilities etc. I believe that the recruitment of the new director of football and scouting is all part of the new football orientated process and a definite move in the right direction. We need to recognise that good/ great managers are very rare and football is a totally unique job marketplace plus we need to recognise how much a succession of poor managers has cost us in pay offs, acquiring poor quality expensive players the legacy of which we still have to carry and we are not going to be rid of these bench warmers in the short term plus let's face it this relegation struggle over the last 3 seasons has been damaging to the club's reputation and has prevented us attracting quality players also let's face it watching saints before RH was no longer a pleasure and no wonder crowds at St Mary's have dropped off. With RH and the other staff we need to reward them not only financially but emotionally and give them pretty much free rein to go back to the old Southampton way of a pathway for the youth and potential players from lower divisions and ensure as much as possible that they are not going to be tempted to go anywhere else. I read that Mark Hughes has been paid off by various clubs £15m and Jose Mourinho £51m, so failure costs! We need to go back to our roots and start again punching above our weight, as we don't have a super rich backer or huge fan base. I read also that Tottenhams new stadium catering/ corporate facilities are contributing £800k every home game which pays Harry Kane's wages! I really hope that RH is the start of a new brighter era at St Mary's and let's get back to being the best of the rest! coyr.

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27 Apr 2019 19:44:45
Hi guys

Well we are safe! It wouldn't be saints if we didn't make it hard work. 're players we are committed to buying Danny Ings so let's let him rest and get him fit for next season, I have read that Austin, FF, Jack Stephens plus 3 others are going to be released. Here's a suggestion bring Callum Chambers back, he has been superb for Fulham this season either as a defender or midfielder and obviously doesn't have a future at Arsenal and is only 24.coyr.

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26 Apr 2019 01:38:14
Hi ed,

I'm sure I speak for everyone here and thank you and all the eds for your work which is much appreciated and really makes this website so excellent. regards vs.

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25 Apr 2019 13:44:51
Yes

I also saw that as you say look where we would be if we controlled the games better! . I am sure this is something that RH will be addressing over the summer. Let's put Bmth away on Saturday and finish the season looking forward rather than back. coyr.

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17 Apr 2019 00:24:07
Hi teejay

I think you are right, Brighton are in freefall and they are away to wolves and spurs next and they can't buy a goal! You have to hand it to Cardiff let's just keep working so we can just look at what's going on at a safe distance! Mind you I didn't hear Warnock saying Brighton should have had a penalty! Coyr.

Vintagesaint