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15 Jun 2017 12:01:03
So. With Tuchel ruling himself out of Southampton, I think the bookies have made FDB as favourite by default.

I was told a few days ago that Saints enquired about Julian Nagelsmann, however were put off by the large compensation payment, even before trying to persuade him to give up champions league football.

Any one heard anything else?


1.) 15 Jun 2017 12:15:18
All I heard is that Les would have kept Puel. on for nextbseason if he had agreed to change the playing style. He wouldn't so Les wrote him a £6m severance cheque and said au revoir.

2.) 15 Jun 2017 12:44:09
I wasn't keen on the style in the second half of the season but some of that was due to lack of cover for vvd forcing a more defensive MF to protect a vulnerable defence.
I would have liked to see Puel given another season with the chance to build his own team before judging him fully.
I feel sorry for him after giving us a fantastic day at Wembley and I fear what the consequences will be with all the uncertainty now surrounding the club.

3.) 15 Jun 2017 12:55:18
Don't be silly. Have you seen the list of candidates?! Roy Hodgson is 3rd favourite. Idiot fans driving the guy out before he really got a chance.

4.) 15 Jun 2017 13:56:04
WanderingSaint you're the one being an idiot. just because the bookies have him as 3rd favourite doesn't mean he's genuinely being considered by the board. Odds are influenced by many things, one of which is the bets people place. Hodgson is a recognisable name which will induce some people to bet on him despite the fact he clearly doesn't fit with the club in the slightest. He's been in the top 5 favourites for just about every job in the last year, as has Ryan Giggs. Doesn't mean a thing.

5.) 15 Jun 2017 14:22:35
Er, you seem inconsistent to say the least.

On one hand you say ". would still be our manager if it wasn't for a section of our fans who have the patience of a spastic in an ice cream parlour. " On the other you say the above?

Bookies set prices for a number of reasons, but all roads lead to likelihood. To say the list of potentials is uninspiring is the understatement of the millennium.

Puel wasn't a "big name" and a large section of fans wanted him out before we'd even kicked a ball. The guy is highly respected throughout Europe. If I was a manager on the up, I wouldn't go anywhere near us, having just watched the treatment of Puel. These fans wanted us to play 4 attacking midfielders whilst having 3rd and 4th choice CBs in the side! I remember the days of 4-3 or 4-5 under Chris Nicholl. It was exciting, there were loads of goals, but we always had to perform miracles in the last 5 - 10 games of the season.

I maintain that this is an idiotic decision, brought about by deluded and unrealistic fans, and one we'll all regret. I sincerely hope and would be delighted to be proven wrong, but I just can't see it.

6.) 15 Jun 2017 14:53:54
Maybe the shortlist is made up of former England managers. Allardyce, Hodgson, Erickson, Hoddle etc.

7.) 15 Jun 2017 15:06:31
To be clear, then, my opinion is that it was very harsh and based on stupid and impatient reactions by the fans who have behaved poorly, and very hypocritically considering we normally take pride in our club being run differently to the other PL clubs who chop and change their managers every year (e. g. Watford) .

I do, however, share all the frustrations that the football last year was terrible to watch and not in keeping with our supposed philosophy, and so there's a little part of me that's not sad to see the back of him, even though I would never boo him like some did and force the club's hand.

My point above was just that the bookie's odds are in no way related to the actual targets the board have in mind. Odds are influenced mostly by the bookie's desire to limit their exposure in the event of particular outcomes, and so by the bets people place. Household names like Hodgson, Giggs etc. therefore inevitably rise to the top every time, without any indication they're actually particularly likely to get the job. Therefore to use bookie odds to either criticise or defend the decision to sack Puel is idiotic, particularly when it comes to the names which are linked with every single job.

Don't see how that's inconsistent.

8.) 15 Jun 2017 16:13:18
Every single available and realistic target is on that list, together with some who are neither. Given that, i'd say it's perfectly reasonable to assess the decision to sack Puel on the basis of those available and realistic replacements. I would rather we'd kept Puel than replace with him with any one of them. The only caveat to that is if he was doing actual harm, which I don' believe.

As far as our deluded fans are concerned, come on, you've read the comments everywhere, such as "let's just get Tuchel in quickly. " Yeah, 'cos someone who's just taken a team to the QF of the champions league and won the German cup is just waiting with baited breath for us to ask. Deluded just doesn't cover it.

9.) 15 Jun 2017 18:58:07
Do you seriously believe the club sacked puel because a few fans booed, wenger would have been out of a job years ago, they knew he wasn't going to change his philosophy and didn't want a transfer window then get rid, also well known within the club at least 3-4 players wanting to leave if he stayed, nice guys don't always come first.

10.) 15 Jun 2017 20:26:20
Yes, like I said twice now though your only basis for saying they're available and realistic is the presence of their name on a betting website. Like I said, Hodgson is not realistic, so to criticise the board because some bookie decided to lower the odds on Hodgson is ridiculous.

Judge the club on its actions, not on unrelated actions by the bookies.

Also I find it very hard to believe that every single available and realistic target is on the list. Indeed, this would seem to contradict the defining characteristic of a 'SHORTlist'. What with all the unavailable and unrealistic targets thrown in there, for no clear reason other than to avoid WanderingSaint having to admit he's wrong, I doubt we'll get around to actually hiring someone until sometime in 2020.

11.) 15 Jun 2017 23:27:19
If anyone else who was realistic and available was indeed realistic and available they'd be on the odds list. There may be others who we'll approach but the experts who spend their days analysing the market don't think so, because they're, well, unavailable and unrealistic.

I have clearly criticised the board for their action of sacking Puel at all. The fact there's nobody out there to replace him is a side issue.

Yes, i'm sure all of the bookies visited this site and added them so as to ensure I don't have to admit i'm wrong.

I sincerely hope we get someone good, but doubt it. If we appoint someone from leftfield, the same fans mentioned above will want him out before we've kicked a ball.

Whoever it is had better damn well a) finish in the top 6, and b) play free-flowing attacking football regardless of the squad, and c) win they games they win by 2 or goals, d) get a SF of a cup at least. If they don't the fans will drive them out.



16 Jul 2014 23:44:14
Not massive news but I have heard that Blackpool have made an enquiry about the availability of gazza due to their goal keeping crisis. Although saints are yet to respond it could be a decent level to assess him further.


1.) Needs to be loaned out. would rather see cropper in goal than gazza again.

2.) Take him, he's awful.

3.) Gazzinga not up to job as was seen last season, I personally panicked when the other team got the ball within 30 yards of him! Not his fault is still young but not premier class. Look at other teams in prem who have experience keepers as their cover in the likes of Chelsea and spuds I would like us to add more depth to squad in the way of experianced pros

4.) Agree with all - not good enough but by going on loan he will gain exp and with a run in the team we can assess if he will be good enough for the future. heard today that saints rejected this but can't understand why.

5.) I agree he needs more time but please bear in mind, last season he was in goal when most of our back 5 was also injured so a lot of goals were not his fault entirely.

6.) I used to panic too but I recon if he was loaned out he would come good as bialkski has now we should have just kept loaning him too



29 Jun 2014 17:13:11
Whilst I take no pleasure in saying my knowledge of who would be sold has been right It has as I expected turned out that way. Once lallana goes lovern will follow. However the latest I have heard is that koeman is desperate to speak in person with spider as soon as he is back from the World Cup to disagree with advice he has been given that he needs to leave saints to be a France regular. Koeman instead wishes to share his vision and appoint him club captain.

In other news and again as previously advised saints will look to the youth team with taggart to be initially used in the league cup so that come January he is fighting for a place.

Koeman also plans to spend - with some attacking threat and centre backs seen as a priority. I do not have names yet but it does look like he is looking for a higher class than pelle and Ings. The club as a whole however have wanted Ings for some time.

Koeman fully expects to finish top half before a push the following season to break our highest prem finish.


1.) When Keoman signed it was initially reported a gk was the priority.

2.) Would hope the Axel Witsel rumours are true. Rafa Silva looks promising. As does Tadic. Let's wait and see, will be interesting. I truly believe we'll come out of the summer a stronger team.

3.) That would be awsome if true about spider he would make a great captain hope he believes in Ronalds vision. Looking forward to the new signings sure Ron won't mess about starting work tomorrow Pelle should be in the bag.

4.) I don't necessarily mind losing Lovren but I would hope for a fair bit more than the quoted £15million for a player who was frankly outstanding for us last season in the Premiership. He's well worth holding onto unless a seriously big offer were to come our way.

5.) TD667 - I agree. Although there are no facts in the press I know that lallana has been trying to force his move and has been gathering or trying to gather support. We don't need that. Bring on the hungry youth and hungry signings.

6.) Thanks Gregg & I think keeping spider I the key to "steadying the ship" so to speak & keeping one of the more respected players from the want away group is important. Giving him the captain armband would be awesome & send a clear signal to the team that we look after those that actually want to be here. Judging by spiders comments in the press I believe he can be persuaded to stay & be convinced he is part of the new phase.

7.) 29 Jun 2014 20:31:50
MS will 100% go to Arsenal

8.) I do have reservations about the initial post and his so called information, seeing as he has "taggart" playing but I guess he means matt targett.

9.) Kevalle only posts to say everyone's leaving, do you really enjoy it that much?

10.) Is the pelle deal going to happen tommorow for definite?

11.) There`s bin a muuurrrdeeerrr

12.) Sorry Jonah, I wish my post was as good as yours. I've proved time and again to have knowledge from within, feel free to skip my posts. Simply an auto correct.

13.) If Sissoko can be a regular whilst playing for Newcastle then why can't Spider playing for us?

14.) Proved to have knowledge from within? You said Pochettino was staying. You also said we would sell shaw and Lallana then only spend 20 mill all summer, let's see if that comes true, I'm sure we'll spend more than 20 mill.
You never said Lovren was leaving, but your saying it now.
Everyone knows that lots of clubs are interested in our players, and players will always be interested in moving to bigger clubs, you hardly need to be Nostradamus to predict that some of our players will leave. Yet every time there's a negative rumour about Saints you come on here and say I told you so.
So now Schneiderlin will stay as captain, and we're not interested in Pelle? Let's see if your right there. I don't believe you have any inside info, you just read stuff online and then speculate.

15.) 20 million was the plan at the time and things change. No wonder people don't comment with what they know with trolls coming on here. I think you will find the only reason saints will now spend more is because koeman would not join without significant reinvestment. Lovern stated he wanted to say, my crystal ball failed to tell me he would change his mind.

16.) Oh and it does not say spider will be captain anywhere on line. Also please quote me correctly I never actually said poch was staying.

17.) If that makes me a troll, pointing out that a) the things you say are going to happen don't happen
and b) you then have the nerve to say I told you so,
then I must be one I guess.
Re Pochettino you said something along the lines of "from what I'm hearing from my sources Pochettino is staying" -he left 2 days later. What happened did you mis-hear?
You should get some new sources mate!

18.) "From what I have heard" he is staying as at first he was reluctant to join spurs. Your sources are better "shaw might happen" - did happen "lallana won't happen" did happen. Plenty of what I have said has happened as opposed to people like you that come on these sites and criticise what people have been told. For this reason so many people don't post including the eds because the truth hurts and the abuse (such as calling people thick). You carry on with your quality posts though. Read through your own you don't exactly make a constructive contribution "mate" in fact you remind me of one of those annoying people that are great behind the security of their computer but probably quiet with no opinion in person.

19.) Whatever I don't claim to have any sources, the stuff you write on here makes about as much sense as a David Lynch movie.
You remind me of one of those people who are so desperate for attention that you repeatedly talk about having inside info and being an authority on things, when it just isn't the case. Why would someone keep lying like that if they haven't got major issues?
It might help if some of your educated guesses were a bit more educated, but they are always wrong. Only said you were thick because that rumour about spending 20 mill was so wrong.

20.) Always wrong, have you read any of my posts or even the above I have already proved at least some of them are right. Whatever indeed little man - I think everyone is clear that the only way you can post on here is if you can 100% say it is definitely going to happen. Always being wrong means exactly that like you said lallana won't happen - now that is knowing nothing.

21.) The big difference is that anything I said about Lallana was clearly just a passing comment, a guess, my opinion.

{Ed001's Note - ok enough now both of you. This is just becoming pointless and going back over old ground so move on please.}

22.) Yeah I agree, sorry ed. I wasn't prepared to be called a liar just because not everything I have been told actually happens. Will respect your wishes

{Ed001's Note - thank you.}



31 May 2014 12:58:41
Some Southampton rumours I have heard from inside the club.

David Moyes has had an interview (fact) and rumours that Koeman has also away from ST Mary's. I guess DM would be the safer bet but personally I am disappointed no news re yakin. Initial contact made to Lennon and Garcia has been made.

Transfers - looks like lovren, lambert, shaw and lallana will def go with and Morgan / wanyama less likely unless valuations are met.

Less news on incoming as saints look to the youth team. However I can confirm that Ings will be a saints player but may have to hand in a transfer request.


1.) Moyes makes little sense as his defensive, long ball football is completely at odds with the supposed Saints "philosophy" being preached through the age groups.

Then again, not much else has made a whole load of sense in the way Saints have conducted themselves in this off season, so why should the managerial appoint?

2.) 31 May 2014 13:54:40
Yakin looks as if he has gone to Spartak Moscow rumor has it he has been offered a 3 year deal

3.) Would the last player out of the club please turn off the lights. We don, t have to sell, Blah Blah, We intend to keep our best players and move on to better things Blah Blah. Nothing but hot air from people who do not know anything about football and have ended up running a Prermier League club.

4.) If that's true about Moyes coming in then I guarantee your first signing will be Fellaini. Hoof!

5.) 31 May 2014 19:16:51
Don't bite! Anyone who wants you to sqirm can come up with an unconfirmed room 101 scenario.

6.) Who is trying to make who bite? The moyes interview is a fact not a rumour. I could be wrong. but is this not a rumour site? Of course I would prefer this not to be the case but it is the players are v unhappy, another fact and despite what is written in the press mart Le tiss is not any where near as optimistic as he says.

7.) I too have been told moyes was at st Mary's



30 May 2014 10:04:18
As I mentioned when I was shot down last week for being rubbish KL and RK are planning to sell stars. The reason they are denying this is because they want the best price. The players will be replaced by youth and a mix of signings to try and stay in the premier league so that the club will still be of value. I am gutted as that was before I knew for sure MP was going and now SRL. latest I have heard is that the new manager will be be some one with prem exp and out of a job. Mackay - please no!


1.) 30 May 2014 12:24:46
the sooner liehberr sells the better we soon won't have any players left

2.) Let's not overreact. I love SRL but he has probably played his best for us and would be unhappy if he stayed.
This team grew together and the spirit was what pulled them through sometimes but every team needs to develop and there is nothing to say that we can't rebuild successfully. What I would say is that it has to be done quickly. A new manager will staedy the ship and the first big signing will get everyone buzzing again.
Why people keep harping on about asset stripping to sell the club I can't understand.
It's not the board who want to leave the club and it's them who have the difficult task of keeping us on course.
I think that is is a great dis-service to KL to keep slagging her when she has does nothing to deserve it.
We need to back the board and give them the time they need to react to quickly changing circumstances.
We can come out of this stronger but we need to show unity.

3.) I was far from slagging them off. This is news I have heard from inside the club. Let's see over the summer. If you are right I will be delighted.

4.) All they had to do to keep us on course was to leave cortese alone simple.




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21 Jan 2018 11:15:06
So, just seen Silva has been sacked, with another club taking action over poor form. Initially I wondered if he could end up at saints, assuming MP leaves, but the way results have gone down hill since Everton interest, would leave concerns.

Any thoughts on silva, should MP leave?


1.) 21 Jan 2018 11:32:16
If we make another managerial change it has to be a proven manager and not a up and coming
I'd also use vvd money for that and try to attract the best out there
The only stumbling block would be Reed and whether the new manager could work with him.



31 Jul 2014 15:57:10
I was told on Monday that Saints has made an enquirey to Free agent Tomazs Kuszczak after he left Brighton at the end of last season but thankfully have not followed this up - probably another loan / free optiion would not sit well with a lot of fans as this would be quantity rather than quality.

My frustration with the loan signing of Bertrand is that I understand the loan was rushed through to appease the fans as I understand initial contact was made early Monday but saints bulked at the 10M asking price hence the loan. I guess the frustrations stem from all the big talk throughout pre season and end of last season and yet we seem to be leaving it very late. If the pair from Celtic does not materialise we could end up feeling underwhelmed.


1.) I think maybe it's a loan to see how well Matty Targett comes on this season and whether he can step up to 1st choice by the end of it. If he can, we don't need a £10m left-back sat on the bench.

2.) Dantheman1610. Why are you slagging off KL? Do you not realise the key issues? Our 'star' players that have left have had their heads turned by the 'bigger' teams, significantly more money - which due to FFP we can't pay, & CL opportunities. Lambert, Shaw & Chambers aside. You should get behind the new management team and only judge them on results. COYR's!

3.) Leggdad - I agree to a point. So why make all these statements about players not being sold and money will be reinvested?

4.) I think it's an attempt to appease the fans which on a large scale backfired somewhat. To be honest I don't see why we would spend a full £90million+ on new players, frankly based on what we've got a few more relatively 'big money' signings would be enough in my view. Save the rest for further club developments to build up to big club status, stadium, market the club overseas, that sort of thing.



30 Jul 2014 10:05:58
It is great that people seem a lot more positive since Krugers comments but please be warned we have been here before with him and LR. What concerns me more is spiders comment on twitter something we all seem to be ignoring. "6 years of an amazing journey destroyed in one hour".




29 Jul 2014 14:01:02
So after the monority of fans feared the summer on the basis of news from within the club I think its fair to say even these people did not realise it would be so bad. I understood up to 5 of the best players at the club would be gone to clear debt and pay for the training ground with the club utalising youth more but we have already crossed that number. I understand spider refused the captains armband as at the time was certain if he does not go now it is only a matter of time.

The worrying thing for me is that even players such as cork, fonte and clyne seem to be looking to move is one thing but with Koeman taking pictures of empty training grounds, still no news on incoming transfers and the fans not being able to believe how we are looking to improve on last year things are looking bleak. More so I understand that players are becoming harder to sign as they understandably do not want to join what they see as a sinking ship.

I can tell you that Wanyama would have been sold by now but there are no willing suitors to pay the fee Saints paid a year ago.

Sharpe and Mayuka are to be included in the squad this year which feels like a step backwards as it starts to look like we were stronger in our first year in the prem and yet we are supposed to improve? I for one would like an honest and frank statement from the club.




23 May 2014 20:23:55
Hi All - first post but have been reading for many months. Thought I would give the Eds a break and tell you some bits I know (not guaranteed to happen of course) as opposed to keep asking about shaw and Lallana. We all know NC is long gone and in his words would "never" come back - he wanted Saints to keep moving forward and improving year on year but KL is reluctant to spend more to achieve this hence the fall out. NC didn't want to be part of the direction the club decided to go as the plan now is to continue to invest heavily on youth and make profit once another youngster is ready to come through the ranks.

It is not all doom and gloom however - the new regime have a longer term plan that includes maximum profit.

Luke Shaw - He will go according to my sources. Saints want at least 30 million plus add ons based on success. Saints are happy to be making a huge profit and will only seek a replacement in the region of Free - 3 million as they believe they have an even better player to replace him - MATT TARGETT who is not quite ready to step up. short term plan is an average established left back.

Lallana -Saints would prefer to keep him and are concerned about the sell on clause. they are negotiating with Bournemouth regarding this but the general in house feeling is that Gaston would set up and they therefore already have a replacement. Saints would use the money to spend big money on youngsters home and away

Jay Rod - future was uncertain but due to injury will be staying

Rickie - staying

Fonte - staying

Lovren - Saints would only sell if a huge offer came in and that would need to be 3 times the 9 million verbal offer. they have targeted their centre back staying as a priority

Morgan - similar to the above

The summer plan is to sell Shaw and lallana for a combined 55-60 million and spend about 20. 15 on 2 players and 5 million on youth.

Come the end of the summer I think you will see this post is very plausible


1.) I too will tell you what I know, absolutely nothing which is the same as everyone else apart from those people in the know, know what I mean?.



2.) All this info and you don't even mention Pochettino

3.) What a load of rubbish. don't think I want to waste my brain cells replying

4.) You just did!

5.) Well done on not replying. Top stuff

6.) Gregg01 your plan spells a return to the dark ages we can kiss goodbye to the Premiership. Seems to me that there are two types of fans at Saints, those who are wedded to a small, provincial club philosophy, with no ambition other than survival in the top flight. And there are those like me who aspire to greater things who want to see the club expanded, a bigger fan base and the creation of a Saints brand. To achieve that we need success on the park, simple.

7.) Whilst I couldn't agree more - this is NOT my plan at all. It is what I have heard to clubs plan is hence NC wanted no part of it. I want what all saints fans want but the facts I have heard are that if the owners wanted to aspire to better things NC would still be here. I really hope my source is wrong but he was right about gaston, wanyama, NC going etc

8.) So what you re saying is that KL does not share her father s ambition when she has lashed out over 30 million in each of the last two seasons on new players. doesn't make sense does it, to spend all that money then cash in on her two best assets? How does that help the club as it would be tough not to say impossible for Saints to replace either! I don't know what is going on any more than you do but I have noted that Saints are trying to recruit somebody to deal with supporter liaison which the club badly needs as the rumors have been horrific.

9.) Yes indeed from what I have been told (and am far from happy about it) KL does not share the same vision and the money she invested was because NC stated that saints would be worth more for it. To be fair he was right! I would love it to be wrong!




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16 Feb 2018 10:01:15
Totally agree about booing, that’s why it is more productive to vent on forums such as this.

Figo, to reiterate I actually agreed with the majority of your post (s) . It is just that on current points to game ratio, we will finish with 36 points, personally I am not convinced this will be enough.




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15 Feb 2018 11:17:32
Figo, whilst I agree, I think the reason people were positive after WBA is that the effort seemed there and the will to get out of trouble. With such momentum, fans hoped that the positivity would run into the next game. Had we of lost to Liverpool but had lots of heart and desire to win, the general feeling would have remained positive, however that second half performance was anything but. people say the fans drove out Puel, if this is the case and the board listen to us, they would have sacked MP.




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14 Feb 2018 17:27:06
Hope so. I heard Monday he will 100% still be in the job for the WBA FA cup game.




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02 Feb 2018 11:54:51
sorry 123, usually I find your posts etc to be very balanced, but on this occasion, it is a bit much to expect people to recognise half time changes, after 23 games of the season gone. Yes, MP does not get everything wrong, but more than a competent Prem manager should. Personally, I can't defend him at all.




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31 Jan 2018 22:01:04
Something has to change. I agree with with the comments, yes it’s far from all doom and gloom but RK states we have a talented squad capable of top half, with the situation the way it is, it has to be the manager. I also don’t understand why some think there is no one available. Marco silva is out of work.





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17 Feb 2018 09:57:41
Firstly Figo and if I didn’t say before, it was a really good article. I think MP’s prem points to game ratio is around 0.96, which equates to around 36 and a half points so I rounded down.

My biggest concern is stoke have improved a little since the manager change, as have most of the other clubs. I have calculated all prem games based simply on my predictions. In my final league table WBA are bottom, the Huddersfield, then saints, stoke and Brighton all on 37 points, with stoke going down on GD. Problem is I think I have been bias.




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12 Feb 2018 11:16:26
Would take silva over MP2 that’s for sure.




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11 Feb 2018 19:22:09
Get silva in ASAP. I’m not one for sacking managers at the first sign of trouble, but to be fair that was in novemeber. He has to go.




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04 Feb 2018 00:17:01
Figo, there were boos from West Brom fans for long, didn’t hear to many from saints fans. If there were then of course I agree, they should shut it.




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03 Feb 2018 15:58:43
I think Gabi has a knock.