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17 Jan 2018 17:51:51
Ed's I've heard rumour off a very poor source I've got to say that we are in for Sturridge on a loan with a buy option at the end of the season. Have you heard anything or is this another false one?


{Ed002's Note - No, I am not aware of that.}

1.) 17 Jan 2018 18:20:24

2.) 18 Jan 2018 00:04:21
Having seen Walcott move to Everton (he was surely someone we’d have been thinking of getting) I’d think it quite likely, very plausible that we might be interested in England Strikers Daniel Sturridge.

Knowing our recent lack of excitement though, we’ll probably sign his uncle, former Derby striker of the mid-90’s, Dean, by mistake!



06 Oct 2017 08:32:31
Linked with Walcott again. Not sure if he is the answer?


1.) 06 Oct 2017 10:05:52
Older version of redmond in my opinion.

2.) 06 Oct 2017 13:53:53
Apart from actually has a finish.

3.) 07 Oct 2017 08:38:39
It's the same old situation wages too high and Mr Goa ain't spending this season.



26 Aug 2017 08:06:03
5 days before the window closes. Eds any further info about any ins or outs or do you think our business is done now.


{Ed002's Note - No, it won't be done just yet.}

1.) 26 Aug 2017 08:49:05
Thank you. It's been a wierd window for us this year.

2.) 26 Aug 2017 09:15:10
Mp putting out there that transfer business is done unless a good deal comes up.

3.) 26 Aug 2017 12:20:59
Not signing another striker before the window shuts, would be a big mistake laving just 3 strikers at the club, especially with Austin's injury record.

4.) 26 Aug 2017 13:16:11
Is there anyone new we're interested in Ed? I've heard rumours of a few teams being interested in Long?

{Ed002's Note - Not beyond what I said about Remy.}

5.) 26 Aug 2017 18:07:05
Do you think Remy would be bought out right or do you think he'd been loaned in? If he's still at Chelsea the loan to buy option could work. Similar to Bertrand.

{Ed002's Note - You need to forget the commercial aspects - there are a number of clubs interested in Loic Remy including Southampton.}



01 Aug 2017 09:46:26
Got a feeling Cedric is on his way out. Eds do you know of any firm interest in him from other clubs?


{Ed025's Note - barcelona have been looking at him mate..

1.) 01 Aug 2017 10:20:40
He has been quite vocal pre season. I'd be surprised but let's face it if Barcelona come calling. still jeremy pied has looked impressive in the glimpses and looks comfortable in and around the team so ready made replacement.

2.) 01 Aug 2017 13:18:45
I feel Cedric will stay unless we accept and offer which is like saying you can go. He always seems positive and pro saints with publicity etc I am sure if it was made known he could leave there would be no shortage of takers incl Barca. Pied has looked good b4 injury and pre season and will prob get a run while Cedric catches up.

3.) 01 Aug 2017 19:21:06
Hasn't he said recently on his return after the summer. I'm home. That's the only vocal I've heard from him.

4.) 02 Aug 2017 13:20:56
Cedric, Tadic, Bertrand and VVD were all grumpy under Puel and wanting away but all, except Virgil have changed their minds under MoPe and want to stay.



26 Jul 2017 20:25:30
Frankly bored with the VVD rumours now.
We have a good team and with some minor tweaks I really do believe we have a great first 11.
If he goes he will need replacing but I hope he doesn't and gives us another season.
I'm more concerned about losing Cedric, Bertrand and Romeu.


1.) 27 Jul 2017 00:24:36
He is going of that there is no doubt. Just a question of SFC making it seem they have done everything to keep him. They promised that no players would be sold to the new manager which I personally don't think they really thought they could guarantee. I just think there is a £30m centre back out there as good as VVD trouble is could we sign him with our wage structure, not sure of that. If they are that good they would want more money.

2.) 27 Jul 2017 08:44:57
Totally peed off at the moment, No excitement about the new season
all we hear about is VVD. Not a thing about strengthening the team.
Anyone with any football brain can see from last season that we are 3 Quality players short, but all we hear is 3-4 players going. The club are trying to look tough and say VVD will not go, I think most of us do not really believe this. TELL him to give us 1 more season and he can then follow his Wallet and go.
The same happened with Schneiderlin. There NEVER seems to be any GOOD News come out of St Marys, even the Takeover is a Joke. Come on Mr Reed, we have paid good money for our tickets, give us some value for our money. Looks like we cannot buy until we sell, other clubs are strengthening Pull your finger out!

3.) 27 Jul 2017 09:50:08
Don't think the 3 players above will be leaving. Bertrand was wanted by City and they've just splashed out however much on full backs. Plus City singing Walker for 50m means we should be asking at least 30m for Bertrand. That's the position that football is in right now. As for Romeu, I can't see him at a bigger club than Southampton where he would be getting regular first team football.
The Cedric rumours have died down, but he's not currently in the squad, so we'll see what happens when he returns. I think Cedric is probably one of the best full-backs in the league and will just keep getting better.
I'd like us to keep these players. But every rumour that comes in is disappointing. I feel that we buy players that we know we will sell on for a profit. This is why I think we haven't chased players that cost more than 20m. You look at Boufal, Hojbjerg, I don't think they were bought to improve the squad but bought to develop and sell at a profit. It's disappointing but it is the business model. You look at the money Keoman is spending at Everton and it makes sense why he left and has slated us for having no ambition.

4.) 27 Jul 2017 12:01:48
Take away the value of lukaku being sold and Everton have spent about 25 million. plus the extra wages. so it's not as big as you think. Everton are also owned by another tycoon in the abramovic mould that can use the club as his plaything and spend as he likes. We are not. We have an owner who is trying to make sure we progress and build in a lasting and sustainable way instead going all out for 3 or 4 years and then going bust. again.

5.) 27 Jul 2017 13:13:02
Yes and understand and I agree with you Milky. However, there is building a sustainable team. However, the rate we buy youngsters and sell them shows a lack of ambition. Obviously when Liverpool and Manchester United come knocking and a player wants to leave there is nothing we can do.

I mean the media, of course, doesn't help, which is where I read most information. All it takes is one of our players to have a couple of good games and suddenly every club wants in. However, it seems like this is only the case for us. And the only money we seem to invest in the squad comes from outgoing transfers. What about sponsorship deals and Sky money? Where does all of this money, obviously I'm not saying we should spend every penny the club makes on bad signings.

That being said, it obviously comes from a lack of bad management why players choose to leave. As their managers leave at the first opportunity. Last season we stepped backwards and I don't want to entirely blame Puel for that. It almost feels like there is no long term goal, apart from to remain sustainable.

6.) 28 Jul 2017 12:23:31
Hi Guys

Its the same old story no one will be sold this summer or at least till the last week of the transfer month, then the board can say its to late to buy anyone better than we got now. KL can then fill her purse up again, that's when she will sell the club to the Lander sports group and push of with another £200 plus million, Where has all the sponsership money gone, where has all the sky TV money gone where has the money gone for our 8th place finish in the Prem div. OH I forgot to say KL probably got a massive purse.





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01 Feb 2018 19:52:03
Had an interesting conversation in my bar with a few supporters of other clubs.
They are all in the opinion that our first team and certainly our academy has gone downhill hugely in the last 2 years.
They're argument is that now VVD has gone there isn't a single player in our first team that a top 6 team would want. The first time for a couple of years.
I'm not saying they are right but maybe selling the crown jewels has finally caught us up.


1.) 02 Feb 2018 12:25:36
I think they make a fair point, however I think Cedric is good enough for top 6, as is Bertrand. we also have a couple of CM's that have the potential to be, however I do get their point.



01 Feb 2018 09:13:06
In my view another very unsuccessful transfer window. Great for the club getting a decent a profit but our striker signing is really only replacing JRod from back in the summer.
None of this is the managers fault as in this day and age it is the board who looks after transfers.
Our Manager doesn't look premier league quality and seems out of his depth. He might do in time but we just haven't got that luxury.
He also was appointed by the board.
What i'm getting at is maybe its time for Les Reed to be replaced? He has been behind a lot of our failure over the last months. Granted he also had a lot to do with our success but we are in a results lead business and he isn't producing them.
I wonder what the new owner is thinking at the moment. His investment will drop dramatically if we are relegated.


1.) 01 Feb 2018 09:58:28
I think you will find Reed has lived off Cortese's success and now that is starting to fade. There was a reason he was voted the worst manager ever, he does not know football. I have supported this club for years and didn't think we could get anybody as bad as Lowe but with this board we are definitely trying to match him. Wonder what will happen to all their great contacts in US amd Asia when we are a championship club I am sure they will lose interest along with Virgin media back to draper tools I think lol.

2.) 01 Feb 2018 19:06:20
Reed was able to live off of the success of Poch and RK and was able to feed off of their positivity, skills and achievements. Now the abject lame duck that is MP can muster nothing positive he is exposed as being a sham. If he had any self respect he would fall on his sword and go- NOW! But I guess he will take his unearned fat salary as long as somebody is willing to pay it.



31 Jan 2018 03:37:28
I keep hearing that we are still a well run Club yet here we are less than 24 hours from the end of the transfer window allegedly tried to get a transfer across the line.
Did the board not know there was a January transfer window?
Surely the well run clubs have their deals lined up as early as possible so that they can maximise the time with their new player?
We've missed a trick with Sturridge. Hungry to prove himself and get in the World Cup squad. A loan deal until the end of the season would have been perfect.
Now we are in a high risk situation of spending around €30m on an unproven premier league player with the very real threat of relegation hanging around our necks.
I think the board are chucking sound bites out there to keep us fans thinking positively about another new signing which won't come off.
Then there will be the "we tried everything to get this over the line etc" from the board.
Come on Les. prove me wrong.


1.) 31 Jan 2018 10:00:50
I don’t think that’s how the January transfer window works. There isn’t a team around that wants to lose a player in the middle of the season and that’s why prices are high, negotiations drawn out (often failing) and complicated by teams insisting on finding replacements before letting players go. We are not the only club looking to get business done on the final day of the window. Teams from the top to the bottom of the league are looking at doing the same. We’ve been linked with Promes for most of the window and I do not doubt the club have been working on a deal for him and others for the entirety of the window. I think if anything, it shows the club is well run as the board are putting the club’s financial stability ahead of anything else. Anyone who thinks we should pay an exorbitant price for a player or break our wage structure is just plain wrong.

Even if we don’t sign anyone today, we have signed Carillo and if he can strengthen our attack and get some goals and assists, I think we have enough to stay up.



21 Jan 2018 19:56:09
Please no more Gabbiadini is a great striker and lacks service. Complete joke today and looks like a rabbit in headlights in front of goal. Get rid, replace with quality and we will be fine.


1.) 21 Jan 2018 20:51:21
Today was fantastic from saints but I think perhaps you're trying to say that for a striker who's struggled to make 1st 11 today was a chance for him to come in, work his socks off and show us what he is fully capable of. he looked unhappy, short of confidence and perhaps wants out? Other than that I thought we were so much better. tadic was quality looked strong and up for it, Bertrand looked happy and hjobjerg again was good. just wish he had some pace! Haha Haha. I would of taken the point before the game.

2.) 21 Jan 2018 21:28:44
Is this the same gabbiadini who hasn’t started a game in god knows how long! Jesus some saints fans need to get a grip playing someone like him on his own up front isn’t going to get his full potential especially when he’s barely had any game time.

3.) 21 Jan 2018 23:28:09
Hi mad saint, re Gabbiadini Bertrand laid a chance on 4 minutes into the first half, to his feet 6 yards out, he missed completely, he doesn't look like a player who wants to challenge for his place, the idea that he makes all these runs and nobody finds him is laughable, if a team want him now let him go! Where was he when Jwp's free kick came in and Stevens header went wide? He obviously wants to go back to Italy.

Compare him to Harry Kane, Kane always working laying great balls on for Son and Alli and please don't tell me he is a different type of player. Succesful Modern footballers are box to box for 90 minutes, he has no pace, no physical presence, no great touch, yes freezing cold and wet in January not ideal but it's 90 minutes. I can see why MP picks Long even though he doesn't score at least he puts pressure on their defence and works hard. Regards vs.

4.) 22 Jan 2018 06:11:28
It don't matter how long he's been out a premier league striker should be able to come in and make in impact. He's not been injured he's been unable to make our starting 11 and had a chance to prove himself. He didn't take it that's all I was saying. Other than that it was a quality performance.

5.) 22 Jan 2018 10:42:23
VintageSaint you joking? Compare just about anyone to Harry Kane and they come up short. And what the hell do you mean where was he when Stephens header went wide? Watching Stephens miss a good chance like the other 21 players on the pitch. What on earth are you one about.

6.) 22 Jan 2018 14:55:52
Hi saints123,

I want and expect my centre forward to be going for that header, that is his role, not a young central defender, his role is to score goals! That was a near perfect cross from jwp, pelle would have been there, Ron Davies, James Beatrice, I keep hearing on here we don't play to Gabbiadinis strengths, I'm struggling to see what those are, all I saw yesterday was him constantly shrugging his shoulders, ambling around, if the ball isn't placed inch perfectly to his feet then he can't and won't work for it. The early chance that Bertrand provided was practically perfect and he couldn't shift his feet quickly enough. If you watch city, Chelsea players rarely receive the perfect ball, it's hit too hard or fast or they have to stretch for it, they control it and move, his whole body language is petulant and disinterested, maybe VVD wasn't the only disruptive influence mp has to deal with! He offers nothing look at Brightons Glenn Murray constantly harassing opposing defenders to get the ball back. A forward cannot just wait while his team mates do all the work for them to put the ball on a sixpence for him to finish it. Please respond with Gabbiadinis talents and strengths and maybe I'll change my mind.

7.) 22 Jan 2018 15:31:28
That early one was a bad miss - he needed to react quicker but like it or not that IS something that gets better with more game time and match sharpness. I'm not saying that should make him immune from criticism, but it's a fact about strikers than confidence and sharpness are critical.

Your point about the header is absurd, the cross wasn't aimed at him. No Pelle wouldn't have been there, because the cross was for Stephens. If Gabbiadini was there, he'd have just been in the way. You are not making sense on that point at all. And anyway, yes, we all know that's not who Gabbiadini is, so if the point you're making is that you want a target man centre forward then that's legitimate, but that's not at all what you've said and let's not criticise Gabbi for not being something that everybody with two eyes and a brain knows he's never going to be.

As far as Gabbi's strengths, you saw them last year. His strengths are his movement and finishing. He makes good runs in behind, and when players get to the byeline and pull it back he can find the yard of space you need. You saw it yesterday, he just fluffed the finish as you say. Think about Suarez. I'm not saying Gabbi's that good, but the example is still valid. Do you hear people talking about how Suarez isn't winning every header that Pique wins for Barcelona? No, because a) that makes zero sense, and b) because that's not who he is. Gabbi needs to play in that type of team, one that keeps the ball on the ground and doesn't ask him to be something he isn't.

I don't even mean this as much of a defence of Gabbi's place in our team - if we can't play like that then there's no point him being there. But your criticism of him on this thread is absurd. It's like complaining that De Bruyne is rubbish because he's so much worse at tackling than Matic.

There's been a lot of people taking issue with the way I phrase things on here, so to be clear: You're entitled to think Gabbi isn't good and should be sold. I can see why you might - he's not been in the team and didn't play too well yesterday (although I personally disagree with people saying it was for lack of effort) . But I am equally entitled to call the justification that you've posted on this thread ridiculous, because you're comparing players who cannot be compared, and using some situation where a CB heads at goal to inexplicably criticise the guy. That's not fair - looks like Gabbiadini is the latest scapegoat now that MP has earnt a reprieve.

8.) 22 Jan 2018 16:00:06
I’ve being saying since before the season started that Gabbiadini isn’t good enough. His strike rate just isn’t what we need.
He has his purple patch when we first bought him and he was getting the same service from the same players.
He has now got even worse as he looks like he doesn’t want to play for the club.

9.) 22 Jan 2018 16:41:19
Saint 123,

The idea that the cross was aimed for Stephens is absurd, you want your crosses in the 'corridor of uncertainty' where the goalkeeper hesitates to come out and the defenders struggle, your idea that your main forward is watching that ball is ridiculous! He should be pushing his way through everyone for him to head, that is one of his supposed strengths, why do you think Harry Kane scores so many goals because of his movement! Jack Stephens lost him yesterday and Spurs scored. Hernandes got 2 goals against us inside the 6 yard box. This is not a witch hunt but we are in a desperate situation and we need everyone committed to the cause and it was obvious yesterday that everyone else was giving everything and he just does not want to be here.

10.) 22 Jan 2018 17:00:53
Easy 123. VS has a regular bee in his bonnet about our players not being committed and playing for the shirt which is aroused whenever a player does not play to his full potential, chase down every single ball, close down the opposition every time they have the ball and play with either a smile or with gritted teeth depending on the result of the game. In my view it tends to bear little relation to context, personality, role or position. Its more a general ‘isn’t working hard enough’ kind of vibe in VS’s own personal opinion. It is usually coupled with a ‘sell the player’ and ‘bring in someone who will play for their place’ comment, so every box ticked here. I’m only slightly disappointed that this time, VS hasn’t stated that the club should sign a Championship player to replace Gabbi, although he does mention Glen Murray who is effectively the same thing so…. Please don’t take offence VS, I’m only joking.

For what its worth VS, it was Tadic who played in Gabbiadini and yes he did swing and miss but he is low on confidence, has not been getting regular starts and he was under considerable physical pressure from Jan Vertonghen. Plus it was very early in the game. I note that no-one has chastised Michael Obafemi missing an even easier chance later in the game which is to your credit given his age and this being his debut. If we factor in those points about Michael, should we not factor in the same about Manolo? I’m certain all those critical of his performance yesterday will say no. It seems a little unjust to me. I’ve seen Sergio Aguero swing and miss at crosses more than once before, so I guess he must be a) . rubbish or b) . not committed. Rayzer, I expect better from you. Just because a player is good enough to play in the Premier league does not mean he deserves criticism for every misplaced pass, missed tackle, missed goal scoring opportunity or game where he doesn’t play to his full potential.

Oh, and on our goal, you may not have noticed but Gabbi was the one making the run across Vertonghen that Bertrand was actually aiming for.

You ask where Gabbi was when JWP whipped in the free-kick that set-up the Stephens missed header. He was attacking the near post but stayed on the floor as the ball was over his head. However he remained alert and watched the ball, ready for any rebound that may come his way. Whilst you may want your striker to be on the end of every single cross, that is rather unrealistic. Was Harry Kane on the end of every Tottenham ball into the box? No. What an empty shirt he is. You also seem to be ignoring the fact that when a team has an attacking free kick or corner, they send their tallest players up to attack the ball, usually, their centre-backs. Have you ever wondered why that might be? If not, the answer is that to give your team the best chance to win the aerial duel for a cross into the box, you should have your tallest players attack the ball. Indeed, those very people are often the target for the cross and that is very likely the reason Stephens went forward for the free kick and why the cross was placed in a position for him AND HIM ALONE to attack. However, we won’t criticise Stephens for missing the header despite it being unchallenged, the perfect height and pace and him only being about 7 yards out because he is young and he is a centre back. We’ll tut at Gabbi for not being the one on the end of it, despite it possibly being a training ground move.

I also note that no-one has criticised Jack Stephens for the goal we conceded yesterday despite clearly being given the task of man marking Harry Kane and making a mess of it. I’m not inviting or expecting anyone to criticise him either. He played pretty well otherwise but had he done better on that occasion we may well have won. If you are to criticise Gabbi for not scoring at one end, you must do the same for anyone at fault for conceding at the other.

Gabbi didn’t have his best game yesterday its true but he is at his weakest when he is isolated, as he was in the second half of yesterday’s game and for the most part whenever he has played this season. He is not a target man or a lone striker so expecting him to control long balls pinged at his head or his chest and hold off the opposition whilst waiting for support is unrealistic. For most of the second half, he would receive the ball and it would take several seconds for another Saints player to appear on screen. That gives Tottenham’s two centre backs and their defensive midfielder ample time to not only close him down but outnumber him. There is no player in the Premier League who could consistently outmuscle 3 defenders at once without anyone in support. Plus, you keep going on about Shane Long but in his spell in the first team, he has equally missed crosses and failed to score when opportunities were put on a plate for him. Better opportunities in my opinion than the one that Gabbi had yesterday. Still, no-one gets on his back which I assume is because Shane Long isn’t in the side to score goals, but rather to run around a lot. Even though he’s usually utilised as a striker. Back to Gabbi, I think if we were to bring another pacey winger like Promes in who could support attacks and aid a quicker transition from defence to attack, we would see better performances from Gabbi.

11.) 22 Jan 2018 21:27:47
Well put figo, and completely agree that somone like Promes would be a great addition, for Gabbi and for the team. To me the criticisms of Gabbi are unfair, and just scapegoating him because he has quite a nonchalant manner about him. We can surely all see that Long as your key striker and goalscorer is simply not an option? I love him for his work ethic, but he's just not good enough in my opinion. Keep him for bursts of energy and pace as a sub, sure, but he should be nowhere near the starting 11 (only exception I'd make would be as winger/ second striker against the top 5 - he can chase them around all day and he does have pace on the break) .

VS, you really should drop the Stephens thing! Can't really add to figo's extensive breakdown, but you're just wrong on that. Players attack different channels, with key men like Stephens and Hoedt as the main targets Ward Prowse would be aiming for.



08 Jan 2018 03:58:15
Call me pessimistic but I've got a feeling we won't sign anyone this window.
I'm sure Walcotts wages are a massive stumbling block and I genuinely can't see anyone out there available who we can guarantee will settle into to squad and into the premier league that will bring us the goals we need.
The only natural goal scorer out there not playing at the moment is Sturridge and he isn't getting a mention.





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31 Jan 2018 03:27:26
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29 Jan 2018 02:51:35
I’d like to be more positive but I think we have made our one signing this window.




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18 Jan 2018 10:54:06
I still think we aren't going to sign someone. Primarily because the board are usually slow to get things done, also there aren't many players out there that suit our needs (tried and tested premier league goal scorers), plus our club isn't in the greatest of shape at the moment sitting just above the drop zone, a team lacking confidence and a manager that the majority of fans don't want anymore.





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12 Feb 2018 02:38:20
Had he not gone to Holland.
My point is there isn’t anyone out there with relegation fight credentials. Silva had one good season that’s all.
We need long term experience and those guys are taken at the moment.




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12 Feb 2018 02:36:08
Why Silva? Just because he is available?
Would rather RK back.




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05 Feb 2018 07:30:46
Saint Chris I agree with you for the majority but disagree about JWP. To me he isn’t the biggest build out there and you may be confusing that with hard tackling and hard work. He has come on in both areas hugely over the last couple of seasons. His role isn’t that of the enforcer like Romeu or Pierre, his is more of creativity.
It’s funny writing this that we are all for the majority saying MP should stick with a regular midfield but to me at present there are too many players at roughly the same standard.
Ask a saints fan for his/ her midfield options and it will be different. One thing I would say is that Lemina needs to be playing week in and week out. Maybe slightly more forward?




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03 Feb 2018 09:39:59
Totally agree Rayzer.




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30 Jan 2018 05:21:37
And Sturridge does is in the cup.